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#juan
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#1Nov 2nd, 2012
Veterans miffed at Quebec premier over Fleur-de-lis in poppy
at 11:52 on November 02, 2012, EDT.

The Canadian Press
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MONTREAL - The Royal Canadian Legion says veterans are insulted that Premier Pauline Marois has stuck a Quebec symbol inside the red poppy that she's been wearing.
Marois was sporting a Fleur-de-lis pin inside her poppy when she gave her first inaugural address in the Quebec legislature this week.
Margot ****nault, the Legion's provincial president, accused the Parti Quebecois premier Friday of playing politics.
"I find it's very political and right now the veterans are very, very, very upset because they fought for Canada not just for Quebec," she said Friday. "We are in Canada. If she wants to wear the poppy she should just wear it like it is."
She said she's even sent a letter to the premier saying it's not proper to wear the poppy with a pin inside.
****nault, whose father was a veteran, said the poppy is a Royal Canadian Legion symbol and nothing should be attached inside — even the Canadian flag.
"The poppy is the Royal Canadian Legion symbol and nothing is to be worn inside like a pin — whether it's the Canadian flag or anything. We're not supposed to," ****nault said.
She said she received about 15 phone calls and about a dozen emails yesterday from veterans who complained the premier's gesture was not acceptable.

I hate to see the war dead used as political fodder.

There is a confidence vote coming up soon. I hope they toss her "government out.
 
Corduroy
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 2nd, 2012
My goodness, using the poppy for overt nationalism when everyone knows it's meant to be subtle.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 2nd, 2012
I have a flag pin in mine simply because I want to own it for more than the 30 minutes it takes for the normal ones to fall out somewhere on the ground. A pin secures it nicely for the 2 weeks prior to 11/11.

While the PQ priemier is an a-s-s, the vetrans are a bit a-n-a-l expecially the vetran who is so offensive his name is censored.
 
WLDB
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 2nd, 2012
Its a stupid and insensitive move but sadly isn't surprising.
 
#juan
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 2nd, 2012
If the PQs thought they could win a referendum they would call another one. Instead,
the premier figuratively makes faces over the back fence.
 
coldstream
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 2nd, 2012
The Royal 22nd Regiment.. the Van Doos.. the francophone division of the Canadian Army, based in La Citadelle in Quebec City.. served with great distinction and heavy casualties in WW1 on the Western Front.. in WW2 in Italy, France, Belgium and the Netherlands.. in Korea and Afghanistan. Among the most admired and honoured of all allied regiments.. they served as King's Guard and received the appellation 'Royal' for distinguished service. Without exception they ALL fought for Canada.

All of its soldiers knew Canada was a protector, since the Quebec Act of 1774, of the French language culture, religion, educational and legal systems.. which would have been torn apart had the U.S. plan to absorb Canada been successful. They all knew the French fact in North America's only hope is in Canada... and they knew it to be indivisible.

Marois is heaping scorn and ridicule on her fellow French Canadians.. and those who died for their country. The good thing is that such a snivelling twit is bound to lead a government of unparalled incompetence and corruption.. and will soon be out of office.
Last edited by coldstream; Nov 2nd, 2012 at 01:44 PM..
 
Nuggler
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 2nd, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by coldstreamView Post

The Royal 22nd Regiment.. the Van Doos.. the francophone division of the Canadian Army, based in La Citadelle in Quebec City.. served with great distinction and heavy casualties in WW1 on the Western Front.. in WW2 in Italy, France, Belgium and the Netherlands.. in Korea and Afghanistan. Among the most admired and honoured of all allied regiments.. they served as King's Guard and received the appellation 'Royal' for distinguished service. Without exception they ALL fought for Canada.

All of its soldiers knew Canada was a protector, since the Quebec Act of 1774, of the French language culture, religion, educational and legal systems.. which would have been torn apart had the U.S. plan to absorb Canada been successful. They all knew the French fact in North America's only hope is in Canada... and they knew it to be indivisible.

Marois is heaping scorn and ridicule on her fellow French Canadians.. and those who died for their country. The good thing is that such a snivelling twit is bound to lead a government of unparalled incompetence and corruption.. and will soon be out of office.




I was thinking pretty much the same thing, Coldstream, but couldn't have put it as well as you. Good on ya.

Knowing that the VanDoos were in the thick of it in all wars, I wonder what their reaction is to this dimwit.
 
BruSan
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 2nd, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by coldstreamView Post

The Royal 22nd Regiment.. the Van Doos.. the francophone division of the Canadian Army, based in La Citadelle in Quebec City.. served with great distinction and heavy casualties in WW1 on the Western Front.. in WW2 in Italy, France, Belgium and the Netherlands.. in Korea and Afghanistan. Among the most admired and honoured of all allied regiments.. they served as King's Guard and received the appellation 'Royal' for distinguished service. Without exception they ALL fought for Canada.

All of its soldiers knew Canada was a protector, since the Quebec Act of 1774, of the French language culture, religion, educational and legal systems.. which would have been torn apart had the U.S. plan to absorb Canada been successful. They all knew the French fact in North America's only hope is in Canada... and they knew it to be indivisible.

Marois is heaping scorn and ridicule on her fellow French Canadians.. and those who died for their country. The good thing is that such a snivelling twit is bound to lead a government of unparalled incompetence and corruption.. and will soon be out of office.

Well said!

Very apropos to point out that Quebec's vets had no problem serving under one flag while serving with distinction.

Very telling she would take this opportunity to de-value their sacrifice to tawdry partisan party politics.
 
Sparrow
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 2nd, 2012
That was typical for Marois. As far as I am concerned she has no Class, nor savoir vivre. As a Quebecer I could say exactly what I think of her but the words would not be allowed on CC.
 
relic
Free Thinker
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 2nd, 2012
My father used to ask,"do you know why there are no porquepines in Quebec?",No why ? "'Cause the frenchmen ate them all when the were hiding in the woods in the war.
 
Tonington
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 2nd, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiingView Post

While the PQ priemier is an a-s-s, the vetrans are a bit a-n-a-l expecially the vetran who is so offensive his name is censored.

A-R-S-E-nault

Another hilarious censor from the forum software!
 
taxslave
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 2nd, 2012
This ridiculous spelling censer has got to stop.
 
damngrumpy
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Nov 2nd, 2012
While I agree this is not appropriate I think we get all tied up harping on it.
The result, we end up talking about the PQ Leader and not about the boys
who fought for us. At the same time we should be careful not to bad mouth
Quebecers on this its the Premier not everyone in Quebec. Look at the
polls, people in Quebec are not in favour of separating at all its down to less
than 49% which means more and more citizens in Quebec are opting in not out.
It should be pointed out that people voted for the PQ for reasons that did not
include separation and we should keep that in mind.
 
Ron in Regina
Free Thinker
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 2nd, 2012
From the story in the OP:

Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

....Marois was sporting a Fleur-de-lis pin inside her poppy when she gave her first inaugural address in the Quebec legislature this week.....

....Margot ****nault, the Legion's provincial president, accused the Parti Quebecois premier Friday of playing politics.

"I find it's very political and right now the veterans are very, very, very upset because they fought for Canada not just for Quebec," she said Friday. "We are in Canada. If she wants to wear the poppy she should just wear it like it is.".....


Wow....I had something to say, and I've been try'n to reword it to be more
civil & polite, but it's just not coming to me. Would this "Marois" spike up
a Crucifix with a Fluer-de-lis before wearing it to a church?
 
s_lone
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 3rd, 2012
So not all of Canadians express their memory of the past in what you consider an ''appropriate'' Canadian way... Tough life isn't it?

Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in ReginaView Post

From the story in the OP:




Wow....I had something to say, and I've been try'n to reword it to be more
civil & polite, but it's just not coming to me. Would this "Marois" spike up
a Crucifix with a Fluer-de-lis before wearing it to a church?

How about fighting for freedom at large and not only Canada?!!!

As if only Canada represented what was fought for in the 20th century major wars. Do you think Quebec doesn't represent those values?
 
damngrumpy
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 3rd, 2012
Quebec sent troops like everyone else in WWII but the appetite to criticise the Province
often ignores that. I know many from Quebec, including a Brother in Law and he is as
Canadian as any of us. We hear from the voices and talking heads most of the time.
 
s_lone
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 3rd, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

Quebec sent troops like everyone else in WWII but the appetite to criticise the Province
often ignores that. I know many from Quebec, including a Brother in Law and he is as
Canadian as any of us. We hear from the voices and talking heads most of the time.

The hatred in this thread is directed towards Quebec separatism at large. People need to realize that being a separatist doesn't stop you from being a decent human being.
 
CDNBear
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 3rd, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by s_loneView Post

People need to realize that being a separatist doesn't stop you from being a decent human being.

That really depends on which separatist camp you're in.

The one where separatism for Quebec, is the only separatism that is acceptable.

Or...

The one that recognizes other groups within Quebec have the right to separate as well.

From all available material, it would seem the former is the larger more vocal and powerful camp .
 
s_lone
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 3rd, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

That really depends on which separatist camp you're in.

The one where separatism for Quebec, is the only separatism that is acceptable.

Or...

The one that recognizes other groups within Quebec have the right to separate as well.

From all available material, it would seem the former is the larger more vocal and powerful camp .

You know I agree...
 
CDNBear
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 3rd, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by s_loneView Post

You know I agree...

That's because you're a decent human being.
 
petros
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 3rd, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiingView Post

I have a flag pin in mine simply because I want to own it for more than the 30 minutes it takes for the normal ones to fall out somewhere on the ground. A pin secures it nicely for the 2 weeks prior to 11/11.

Removing the center of the pin detracts from the symbology.

Remember when the centers were mainly green and just a few were black?

Green centers were made by surviving veterans and their families.

Black ones were made by widows of soldiers and their families.
 
tay
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 3rd, 2012
I just wish Quebec would secede..............
 
B00Mer
Libertarian
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 3rd, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

If the PQs thought they could win a referendum they would call another one. Instead,
the premier figuratively makes faces over the back fence.


...and take a look at that face.. someone should let her know halloween is over and it's time to take the scary mask off now.. lol

Quote: Originally Posted by tayView Post

I just wish Quebec would secede..............

Me too, and the rest of Canada just join the USA. That's it, that's all. Finished.
 
BruSan
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 3rd, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Removing the center of the pin detracts from the symbology.

Remember when the centers were mainly green and just a few were black?

Green centers were made by surviving veterans and their families.

Black ones were made by widows of soldiers and their families.

At least there's one who remembers that the wearable poppy came to be with these stipulations. The whole remembrance issue using the poppy was carefully thought out back in the day and it was done with nothing but respect at it's core. To modify or change so as to "add" something personal or other than it's original strictly defined meaning is to denigrate the very intent of the wearable poppy. No flag, colour, background, size, center, or other change should be done to it to make it either more convenient or more attractive etc..

Thoughtless behaviour!
 
taxslave
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 3rd, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

While I agree this is not appropriate I think we get all tied up harping on it.
The result, we end up talking about the PQ Leader and not about the boys
who fought for us. At the same time we should be careful not to bad mouth
Quebecers on this its the Premier not everyone in Quebec. Look at the
polls, people in Quebec are not in favour of separating at all its down to less
than 49% which means more and more citizens in Quebec are opting in not out.
It should be pointed out that people voted for the PQ for reasons that did not
include separation and we should keep that in mind.

And that is most probably her whole point. To make the story about her, not the veterans.
Looks like it worked.
 
s_lone
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 4th, 2012
 
BruSan
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 4th, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by s_loneView Post


Missing the point requires you to imply that ALL of us who've posted about this issue have inferred that only Marois is guilty of this little infraction and that is just not so. She is the most recent and egregious infraction perhaps but not alone.

Regardless if the National symbol of the Maple Leaf is used in lieu of a party or provincial logo; ALL who modify the wearable poppy in any manner are taking something particular of it's design and altering it contrary to it's intent to suit their personal agenda!

They are all wrong.
 
CDNBear
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 4th, 2012
Is it wrong that I have a small yellow ribbon pin holding my poppy on my hat?
 
SLM
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 4th, 2012
In all honesty I put a permanent pin in mine whenever I can otherwise I'm always losing the darned thing because the pins aren't sufficient. It's not so much that I don't want to "buy" another one, it's just a pain in the butt. I'd rather give a healthy donation the first time around and wear the same poppy for two weeks. Is that so much to ask really?
 
Ron in Regina
Free Thinker
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Re: Stupid Separatist B---tch

Nov 4th, 2012
I usually use the clip off the back of a Canadian Flag pin on the end of the Poppies pin.
I learned this trick years ago back when I was moving furniture, and in the stairwell of
an apartment building wrestling a sofa up a flight of stairs. The pin on the poppy under
my coat sunk into my pec to the felt as I slid the sofa down my chest. Sucked pulling
it out.

This year so far I've bought & lost two Poppies, and haven't seen a Canadian Flag pin
to rob the clip off of as of yet. Maybe that'll be part of my mission once I'm out'a my PJ's.
 

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