Canada isn’t sliding into the arms of the Conservative Party

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Canada isn’t sliding into the arms of the Conservative Party

Six years into the Harper era, Canadians are inching inexorably into the conservative, and Conservative, columns. Right? And though not all are pleased with this incremental, rightward shift, most — the so-called silent majority — tacitly accept it.

Well, no, actually. The latest data from pollster Ipsos Reid, part of a wide-ranging examination of popular sentiment for Postmedia News and Global Television, doesn’t suggest this at all. If anything the numbers indicate Canadians today are more solidly progressive than we have ever been. Perhaps we are a more complex and mature people than the received wisdom gives us credit for. And perhaps this means that our national political leaders, across the spectrum, don’t understand or reflect our views nearly as fully or as precisely as they might.

First let’s dispense with the Big Three: Gay marriage, abortion and capital punishment. These are the files where, leading up to Stephen Harper’s first victory in 2006 and in every federal campaign since, the Conservative hidden agenda was said to primarily reside. And these are the areas where, for plainly political reasons — the fear of a nationwide progressive backlash — the majority-holding Conservatives now fear to tread.

They are wise to fear this, the data shows. On same-sex marriage, the case is open and shut. Since 2004, when gay marriage was effectively legalized by the courts, the numbers of those supporting so-called “civil marriage,” rather than full marriage rights for same-sex couples, has declined to twenty per cent, from just over thirty per cent. But the numbers of those approving full recognition of same-sex marriage have skyrocketed, to more than sixty per cent from about forty per cent. Fewer than two Canadians in ten now support a ban on gay marriage.

With respect to abortion, half the population supports abortion on demand, while an almost equal number, 45 per cent, support a woman’s right to an abortion with certain limitations — such as, for example, in the third trimester of pregnancy. Only six per cent would see abortion made illegal.

On capital punishment the data shows, intriguingly, a social-conservative blip: a clear majority of both men and women, 64 per cent and 57 per cent respectively, would welcome a return of the death penalty, officially abolished in Canada since 1976. Deeper polling is called for here but it stands to reason this reflects collective, gut-wrenching revulsion at cases involving the sexual murder of children. It’s a safe bet that if the question were refined to just those cases, approval would be higher still. But because of the intense emotion this discussion evokes, the Tories have so far steered clear.

From there the Ipsos data broadens into wells of sentiment that present major opportunities, and pitfalls, for Conservatives, Liberals and New Democrats.

The first is that Canadians remain at heart idealists. On issues of commonality — between young and old, urban and rural, western and eastern, immigrants versus those born in Canada — sentiment is solidly, consistently ecumenical, belying the notion that modern politics must be a cutthroat battlefield of wedge interests. Likewise, overwhelming majorities continue to view the country’s traditional “positives” — the beauty of our landscape and wilderness, the diversity of our population, the richness of our culture — in a very favourable light. The natural landscape in particular is deemed by almost everyone — 98 per cent — to be among “Canada’s best.”

Another big area of interest is health care, where, no surprise, 80 per cent back a continuation of “not-for-profit” health care delivered by the public sector, as opposed to “for-profit,” private delivery — if those are the only choices. But intriguingly, a clear majority — 53 per cent — also support a “mixed” model, whereby the system remains public, but individuals are free to obtain treatment beyond the public system with pay-as-you-go or private insurance. Hmm. Wasn’t this what Senator Michael Kirby suggested a decade ago?

A third major focus of the poll is the environment. In question after question, it emerges that Canadians cherish the country’s landscape and natural environment, and want it protected and preserved, to a greater degree than now occurs. A clear majority — 57 per cent — disagree with the statement that “Canada is doing enough to protect the environment.” Combined with the near-universal love of Canada’s wilderness, this suggests the Harper Conservatives need to become much more active about environmental protection, or risk being branded as the party that doesn’t care.

Taken in its entirety, this poll paints a portrait of a country that remains stubbornly, solidly progressive, with room for nuance in important areas, and a high degree of flux.

The poll does not even remotely suggest a country that has been pushed rightward, or is being pushed rightward, incrementally or otherwise, by Conservative rule. Nor does it suggest in any way that the Conservatives have a lock on the title of Canada’s new, “natural governing party.” If anything it suggests the Harper government has gotten offside with the majority in some important policy areas, especially with respect to environmental protection.

Based on this survey, no one has a lock on 2015. It’s wide open.

Canada isn’t sliding into the arms of the Conservative Party | canada.com
 

mentalfloss

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Not sure, but I thought this was a good general, overarching synopsis of the current political state.
 

Locutus

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There's a search function here. Otherwise we may end up with 492, 353 threads about the same thing. Like the Pallies vs. Izzies, for instance.


The kid needs to create a 'Quit Picking on Harper' thread. It's the decent thing to do for all of us. Otherwise, it's just a lot of 'look at my c&p'.
 

Redmonton_Rebel

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When you look at the constant and undemocratic efforts the Conservative government has had to go to to create the illusion of any real legitimacy you quickly realize what a sham it is.

At some point the house of cards will all come tumbling down just as it did with the Liberals and even more so with the last morally bankrupt Conservative government. It's all just a big shell game trying to keep as many people from seeing where the ball really is for as long as possible.

Steven Harper is pretending to care and we're all pretending he's our PM.
 

beaker

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Re: Canada isn’t sliding into the arms of the Conservative Party

I ain't pretending nothing of the sort... :)

Thanks Mentalfloss for putting this poll result out there for us. The environment is one aspect that often gets ignored in these surveys and I am happy to see the results you put in. The natural environment is often taken for granted, noticed when things start to fall apart, acid rain, soil degradation, ozone hole, species loss etc. I would say it isn't just that the Conservatives have to start looking like they care about it, Harper and the boys have to actually stop trying to cause the degradation.

We have seen environmental protection procedures get way laid, science staff get laid off, and environmentalists get bad mouthed for trying to do something positive for the environment. I understand that Harpers handlers thing we have a short memory, but they should realize that a lot of us remember Mulroney still, and that is a long time ago by political measures.
 

damngrumpy

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Actually the cycle for the right is over in Canada, people are sliding to the left
slightly. progressive policy comes when people start messing with entitlement
programs. The Tories have peaked and that showed up about seven months
ago. Slowly but surely they are losing ground.
In addition, unfortunately for Harper he got his wish, he destroyed the Liberal
Party, he just didn't count on the emergence of the NDP as a national force to
be reckoned with and now it could prove to be his undoing.
 

JLM

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Actually the cycle for the right is over in Canada, people are sliding to the left
slightly. progressive policy comes when people start messing with entitlement
programs. The Tories have peaked and that showed up about seven months
ago. Slowly but surely they are losing ground.
In addition, unfortunately for Harper he got his wish, he destroyed the Liberal
Party, he just didn't count on the emergence of the NDP as a national force to
be reckoned with and now it could prove to be his undoing.

If you chart politics it's like the stockmarket or the weather charts always fluctuating. They probably just pulled out of a downward blip as Bev Oda resigned and will possibly head back up as Mulcair further exposes his true colours! Trudeau and his half sister will keep the Liberals in suspense for awhile.