Harper won't rule out staying in Afghanistan past 2014 .

Sparrow

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Prime Minister Stephen Harper has not ruled out extending Canada's military involvement in Afghanistan beyond the 2014 withdrawal of NATO forces.
Under questioning from Opposition Leader Thomas Mulcair in the House of Commons Wednesday, Harper said Ottawa will "examine all options" if asked to leave a contingent of special forces in the war-ravaged country after spring 2014.
According to a media report, the U.S. has asked Canada and Australia to keep some of their troops in Afghanistan to help American forces capture Taliban and al Qaeda insurgents and train Afghan soldiers.
But Harper said Canada has received no "specific" request from the U.S. to stay on past 2014.

Read more: Harper won't rule out staying in Afghanistan past 2014 | CTV News

If Harper wants to stay in Afghanistan let him go himself. Enough of our military have been killed, wounded and mentally affected, no more.


 

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I take it you have a problem with that. Would you prefer that the Taliban retake the country and ban girls from school? murder anyone that disagrees with them?
 

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I take it you have a problem with that. Would you prefer that the Taliban retake the country and ban girls from school? murder anyone that disagrees with them?
It will happen anyway. As soon as the troops leave it will all go back to what it was Taliban control and everything that comes with them.
Did you really think we could change things permanently? How many years have the US troops been in Bosnia and they are still killing each other, nothing was changed in Iran it is as corrupt and before, and Vietman it didn't do any good.

They said the Taliban was almost destroyed well look at it now they are bombings every day and not just one a day. You cannot change a country if the people are not ready to change.
 

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I take it you have a problem with that. Would you prefer that the Taliban retake the country and ban girls from school? murder anyone that disagrees with them?

Let them sort themselves out. Karzai and his government are barely any better than the taliban.
 

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It will happen anyway. As soon as the troops leave it will all go back to what it was Taliban control and everything that comes with them.
Did you really think we could change things permanently? How many years have the US troops been in Bosnia and they are still killing each other, nothing was changed in Iran it is as corrupt and before, and Vietman it didn't do any good.

They said the Taliban was almost destroyed well look at it now they are bombings every day and not just one a day. You cannot change a country if the people are not ready to change.

Bosnia? Iran? Are you in Exacto World?
 

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It will happen anyway. As soon as the troops leave it will all go back to what it was Taliban control and everything that comes with them.
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Everyone forgets that the Taliban was elected and when the Americans came knocking for Bin Laden and the Taliban refused to let the Americans search their country they invaded and decided to do a regime change.
 

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Everyone forgets that the Taliban was elected and when the Americans came knocking for Bin Laden and the Taliban refused to let the Americans search their country they invaded and decided to do a regime change.


The Taliban was elected!!!

You dumb azz... the Taliban took over during the Afghan Civil War.

Did you and Sparrow go to the same World History class?
 

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The Taliban was elected!!!

You dumb azz... the Taliban took over during the Afghan Civil War.

Did you and Sparrow go to the same World History class?


Ok but they were stil in charge of the country just like the Americans when they won their revolution they took over the country from the British when you think about it revolution and civil war is the same.
 

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Ok but they were stil in charge of the country just like the Americans when they won their revolution they took over the country from the British when you think about it revolution and civil war is the same.



Wow... a lefty actually admitting he was wrong! Now that is a shock and commendable.

But seriously, why did you even make up AND POST the total fabrication that the Taliban was elected? To make the dumb even more dumber?

Everyone forgets that the Taliban was elected and .....


Everyone forgets... I mean seriously?

 

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I take it you have a problem with that. Would you prefer that the Taliban retake the country and ban girls from school? murder anyone that disagrees with them?
It's ironic that a guy named TaxSlave wants to continue pouring billions of Canadian taxpayer money into a country that is no threat whatsoever to Canada, where the people don't even want us there.

Will you support spending even more billions traipsing across the globe to fight various injustices.

Because otherwise, I see a lot of inconsistency in your reasoning.
 

Tonington

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Hmm, Harper may have inadvertently gift-wrapped a talking point for the opposition:
Stephen Harper shouted down for saying NDP didn't support fight against Hitler | News | National Post
Prime Minister Stephen Harper was shouted down during a debate in question period Thursday on the Afghanistan mission for suggesting the NDP – not yet in existence – didn’t even support Canada’s military involvement in the Second World War.

NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair was asking Harper if he intended to extend the Afghanistan mission past 2014 after a Postmedia News report Wednesday said U.S officials had asked Canadian special forces to stay past the withdrawal date.

The prime minister responded the NDP has a pacifistic ideology “regardless of circumstances” and his government would make the right decision for Afghanistan’s security.
Can anyone spot it?
 

DaSleeper

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Hmm, Harper may have inadvertently gift-wrapped a talking point for the opposition:
Stephen Harper shouted down for saying NDP didn't support fight against Hitler | News | National Post
Prime Minister Stephen Harper was shouted down during a debate in question period Thursday on the Afghanistan mission for suggesting the NDP – not yet in existence – didn’t even support Canada’s military involvement in the Second World War.

NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair was asking Harper if he intended to extend the Afghanistan mission past 2014 after a Postmedia News report Wednesday said U.S officials had asked Canadian special forces to stay past the withdrawal date.

The prime minister responded the NDP has a pacifistic ideology “regardless of circumstances” and his government would make the right decision for Afghanistan’s security.
Can anyone spot it?

Didn't the CCF become the NDP, and at the time the leader of the CCF was against the war.....non?

List of CCF/NDP members - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

More http://www.socialisthistory.ca/Docs/History/Left-in-WW2.htm
 
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Tonington

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Didn't the CCF become the NDP, and at the time the leader of the CCF was against the war.....non?

List of CCF/NDP members - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yes, the CCF became part of the NDP, along with other groups. Likewise, would it have been appropriate in 2005 to say Stephen Harper is for the GST? Ascribing the same motives to the current leaders based on past party policies is pretty lame, and a logical fallacy to boot.

Anyways, that isn't the part that caught my eye. It's in my quote though, see if you can spot it.


Here's a hint:
The prime minister responded the NDP has a pacifistic ideology “regardless of circumstances” and his government would make the right decision for Afghanistan’s security.​
 

Sparrow

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Bosnia? Iran? Are you in Exacto World?

When I say you comment I was pissed. They I read my post and OOOOPS my brain and fingers were out of sync!


Corrections: Peace keeping troops in Bosnia, US troops in Vietnam, Iraq not Iran.


My point is too many soldiers have died, been permanently wounded physically and mentally in countries where there is no significant change. Look at Bosnia, how many years have PK been there and they are still shooting. What is the point?
 

taxslave

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It's ironic that a guy named TaxSlave wants to continue pouring billions of Canadian taxpayer money into a country that is no threat whatsoever to Canada, where the people don't even want us there.

Will you support spending even more billions traipsing across the globe to fight various injustices.

Because otherwise, I see a lot of inconsistency in your reasoning.

When you become an adult you might understand that some things you just have to do because it is right.