On-reserve private health-care a good idea?

Machjo

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Seeing that, strictly speaking, the First Nations are unique nations in their own right as per international treaties we have with them, and that as such they are entitled to a reasonable level of sovereignty, who are we to tell them they can't have private hospitals on-reserve that are not subject to private sector-restrictions in the Canada Health Act?

This would give them a new source of income, keep money that would otherwise head abroad in Canada, reduce native dependence on casinos and other unhealthy industries, and also provide jobs for indigenous Canadians.

What are the draw backs between that and the alternative, which is often a casino or something of the sort?
 

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Machjo

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Well, the casinos do provide a bit of poetic justice. I like that, lol.

I do like your idea though.

Ah, so because Euro-Canadians mistreated the First Nations, it's therefore only right for the First Nations to scam gambling addicts and others in need of help?

I believe you were joking, and hope you were too.
 

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The medicine man that uses beads,potions, herbs, a feather and smoke as opposed to modern medecine that charge a lot of money for their poisons to cure you.
 

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Ah, so because Euro-Canadians mistreated the First Nations, it's therefore only right for the First Nations to scam gambling addicts and others in need of help?
There's no scam. The OLG says so.

Although the OLG also has gambling games that are illegal in Nevada, lol.

I believe you were joking, and hope you were too.
Absolutely not. I'm a huge proponent of legal poetic justice.
 

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"On-reserve private health-care a good idea?" Yep.


I really hope that this group is able to move forward with this healthcare project; there's no question in my mind that it will be a boon for not only the immediate FN community, but will have very real economic benefits to the entire area (not like it'll pull BC out of debt or anything, but still positive).

On that note, once that model is proven to work, maybe Canadians will begin to understand that having a parallel system doesn't equate to a melt-down of the existing public system
 

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Seeing that, strictly speaking, the First Nations are unique nations in their own right as per international treaties we have with them, and that as such they are entitled to a reasonable level of sovereignty, who are we to tell them they can't have private hospitals on-reserve that are not subject to private sector-restrictions in the Canada Health Act?

This would give them a new source of income, keep money that would otherwise head abroad in Canada, reduce native dependence on casinos and other unhealthy industries, and also provide jobs for indigenous Canadians.

What are the draw backs between that and the alternative, which is often a casino or something of the sort?

I'd rather get my healthcare from a mexican resort.
 

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What are the draw backs between that and the alternative, which is often a casino or something of the sort?
We already gamble with the side-effects of modern medicine or are you under the impression nothing ever goes wrong?

The weathy are not going to want to go back 'to the bush' even if it is for medical recovery. Why not take patients that are under public health that need long term care, or at least 1 month of rehab, or physical therapy and the results get sent to the specialist that remain attached with the big hospitals, where they are needed as they have many patients.

Old folks homes are already available so that specific service would just create a price war and I'm not sure many ancient people would want to move far from their families, some might want just that so it could be a sub-dept.

Medical tourism is on the rise, alright.
Wait till they get the right to sell peyote and such.
 

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Seeing that, strictly speaking, the First Nations are unique nations in their own right as per international treaties we have with them, and that as such they are entitled to a reasonable level of sovereignty, who are we to tell them they can't have private hospitals on-reserve that are not subject to private sector-restrictions in the Canada Health Act?

This would give them a new source of income, keep money that would otherwise head abroad in Canada, reduce native dependence on casinos and other unhealthy industries, and also provide jobs for indigenous Canadians.

What are the draw backs between that and the alternative, which is often a casino or something of the sort?

If you are from Japan or Egypt and you live in Canada as a student, you have to buy health insurance if you don't want to pay out of pocket for medical care. FNs don't have to buy insurance when they enter a hospital. They can use the Canadian medical system without paying, like the rest of us. So, are FNs foreigners like Egyptians and Japanese?