NDP conditions on Ontario budget include tax hike for highest earners

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NDP conditions on Ontario budget include tax hike for highest earners

New Democratic Party Leader Andrea Horwath laid out her conditions for supporting the minority Liberal government on Tuesday, including having the 1 per cent in Ontario pay higher income taxes.

Ms. Horwath is calling on the government to use the additional revenues of $570-million a year from higher taxes to help struggling families with everything from home-heating costs to child-care spaces.

“Ontario’s not going to prosper if households are falling further behind,” Ms. Horwath said. “If we have to choose between a working mom who needs help with the kids or a CEO who needs help with a seven-figure paycheque, let’s help that mom.”

Ms. Horwath, the leader who holds the political cards in Ontario at the moment, made it clear that Tuesday’s announcement is just the first in a series of budget proposals designed to save the government.

The proposals follow a series of behind-the-scenes talks between the chiefs of staff for Ms. Horwath and Premier Dalton McGuinty, house leaders for both parties, and Liberal MPP Greg Sorbara and NDP MPP Rosario Marchese.

Mr. McGuinty has said repeatedly that he is open to hearing what Ms. Horwath has to say but that he won’t consider any proposals that involve spending more money.

Ms. Horwath has come up with a proposal designed to get around the fact that the Premier has “drawn a line in the sand.”

Having Ontarians in the highest income brackets – those who earn more than $500,000 a year – pay higher taxes would raise more than enough money to pay for the three demands she outlined on Tuesday:


  • Removing the provincial portion of the harmonized sales tax from home-heating bills, a measure that would cost $350-million a year.
  • Providing $50-million in funding to support more than 4,000 child-care spaces.
  • Provide those living on disability with additional annual funding of $40-million.

Increasing the tax rate for high-income earners by 2 percentage points to 13.16 per cent would raise $570-million a year, according to the New Democrats’ calculations.

Ms. Horwath reiterated her criticism that the budget tabled by the Liberals last Tuesday contains no measures to address the challenges facing many low-income Ontarians. Her measures, she said, bring “a dose of fairness to a budget that badly needs some.”

Ms. Horwath was coy when asked by reporters if her party will vote against the budget if these proposals are rejected.

"We'll cross that bridge when we get there," she said.

But she added that the Liberals should not outright reject a tax hike for high income earners.

"We don't want the government to pull a Tim Hudak and say, 'my way or the highway'," she said.


Her proposals, she said, are the product of her party’s consultations with Ontarians. The NDP invited Ontarians to respond to the budget through a website and toll-free phone number, and received more than 30,000 responses.

“They’re not happy with the budget,” Ms. Horwath told reporters earlier this week. “It puts a big burden on everyday folks.”

Ms. Horwath has made it clear that she won’t support the budget unless changes are made. The fate of the nearly six-month-old minority government landed in her lap after Progressive Conservative Leader Tim Hudak outright rejected the budget just hours after it was unveiled.

NDP conditions on Ontario budget include tax hike for highest earners - The Globe and Mail
 

gerryh

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It's not meager and we do give away 30%.

That is our choice, not the governments.


So you lied with your first statement about your income being meager. Anything else you have lied about that you want to come clean on before you get tripped up?
 

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It's not meager and we do give away 30%.
That is our choice, not the governments.
The normal idea behind progressive taxes is that the social impacts of wealth are compounding and that those with more money are less impacted by taxes.

The government is in a better position to judge where money will do the best benefit for society as a whole. So, all else being equal, it is better to give money to the government then to a national charitable organization. Whether they use their position to judiciously spend the money is another question entirely, and so all is not equal.
 

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People are better off to there own choices than to see many taken and put in the pocket of a lazy unionized government employee.

So all Govt employees are lazy - Is that a personal opinion?
 

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I wonder if the Liberals will go for it. This could wind up being similar to when the Martin government was propped up by Layton.
 

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So you lied with your first statement about your income being meager. Anything else you have lied about that you want to come clean on before you get tripped up?

Actually, he never said he had a six figure salary. He only said it started with a two. $29,999 is pretty meager and it's easy to give a third of it away if you consider giving to you kids "giving it away"
 

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I wonder if the Liberals will go for it. This could wind up being similar to when the Martin government was propped up by Layton.

Oh they will go for it. Reason -Power

Actually, he never said he had a six figure salary. He only said it started with a two. $29,999 is pretty meager and it's easy to give a third of it away if you consider giving to you kids "giving it away"
Picking fy**** from pepper?
Really - What do you consider well off?
Over 6 figure starting with
a 1
or a 2
0r a 3
What is well off to you? ]
 

Niflmir

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People are better off to there own choices than to see many taken and put in the pocket of a lazy unionized government employee.

In this case we are talking about families getting tax breaks for the expenses associated with child rearing. Germany is a good lesson here. Some two decades ago, their population's birth rates were much below sustenance levels and they needed high levels of immigration, so they started giving more and more tax benefits to people who had children and nowadays, Germans are having children again.

I know the lazy unionized government employee is the go-to scapegoat for why income tax is unfair, but there are lots of people that are genuinely helped by the government.
 

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Oh they will go for it. Reason -Power

I believe the current political mix for Ontario is the best one for the country as well. A liberal minority government with the NDP as kingmaker. Of course there will be some pertinent economic issues that the CPC would be able to influence as well, but obscene wealth inequality needs to be dealt with.
 

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Actually, he never said he had a six figure salary. He only said it started with a two. $29,999 is pretty meager and it's easy to give a third of it away if you consider giving to you kids "giving it away"


yes he did, go back and have someone read and explain it to you.
 

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The believe the current political mix for Ontario is the best one for the country as well. A liberal minority government with the NDP as kingmaker. Of course there will be some pertinent economic issues that the CPC would be able to influence as well, but obscene wealth inequality needs to be dealt with.
Well considering that the Libs and NDP at the fed level do not have a clear platform posted. Hard to say. But I prefer anyone to be on a leash.
And I would take Harper over Dion.
 

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Dear CRA and CPC,
All millionaires should pay some income tax; today, not all do. And, it's perfectly legal in this peaceable kingdom. Time to revist the tax laws.
Sign me,
A concerned taxpayer.