Harper Government entertains Satans VP of ME operations


darkbeaver
Republican
#1
^ Mar 02 12:11

Netanyahu in Canada: Iran a Grave Threat

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Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said on Friday that Israel has the right to defend itself against a country that wants to destroy it, referring to Iran.
Netanyahu made the comments as he began a meeting with Canada’s Prime Minister Stephen Harper in Ottawa, according to a CBC report.
“I know from many conversations that we’ve had that you share my view that this is a grave threat to the peace and security of the world and I think it is important that the international community not allow this threat to materialize,” Netanyahu was quoted as having told Harper as they held a photo opportunity in Harper’s office.
“As for Israel,” added Netanyahu, “like any sovereign country, we reserve the right to defend ourselves against a country that calls and works for our destruction.
Memo to Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu; sir, forgive me, but the "big lie" technique is really passe, and you cannot be taken seriously by any thinking individual in this issue.
As you are very well aware, Ahmedinejad never said that he wanted to , allegedly, "wipe Israel off the map".
The devil is in the detail, wiping Israel off the map suggests a physical genocidal assault, a literal population relocation or elimination akin to what the Nazis did. According to numerous different translations, Ahmadinejad never used the word "map," instead his statement was in the context of time and applied to the Zionist regime occupying Jerusalem. Ahmadinejad was expressing his future hope that the Zionist regime in Israel would fall, not that Iran was going to physically annex the country and its population. To claim Ahmadinejad has issued a rallying cry to ethnically cleanse Israel is akin to saying that Churchill wanted to murder all Germans when he stated his desire to crush the Nazis.
And please, what does a bristlingly nuclear-armed Israel have to worry about in terms of Iran ever attacking it?!?
The leadership of Iran is many things, but sir, stupid is not one of them. Why would they do the most idiotically, ham-fistedly thing they could do militarily, when they are absolutely clear on what the consequences? And as you know, the short answer is, they wouldn't!
To date, no nuclear material has gone missing from Iran's energy program, and they are only enriching up to 20%, with which to create medical isotopes. This is not about blowing people up; it is about helping people heal.
It is obvious that the words "..“like any sovereign country, we reserve the right to defend ourselves..." translates, in Netanyahu-speak, to "We have the right to blow up any neighboring country we don't like; better still, have the dumb Americans do that for us!"
But as you also know, leadership from nuclear-armed Russia, China, and Pakistan has gone public, stating that if Iran is attacked, they will support it militarily.
So what we have here, sir, is the potential for a global thermonuclear war over an alleged Iranian weapons program which, to date, cannot be proven to exist!
 
MHz
#2
He should have a chat with his speech writers, they don't seem to know Israel is actively plotting covert operation inside Israel and have been doing that for several years.

"“As for Israel,” added Netanyahu, “like any sovereign country, we reserve the right to defend ourselves against a country that calls and works for our destruction."
 
Goober
Free Thinker
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#3
Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

He should have a chat with his speech writers, they don't seem to know Israel is actively plotting covert operation inside Israel and have been doing that for several years.

"“As for Israel,” added Netanyahu, “like any sovereign country, we reserve the right to defend ourselves against a country that calls and works for our destruction."

The Beaver had me thinking that Hamas, Hezbollah, the various groups who loves their Jews, Dead that is.

And the headliner would be Imanutjob praising Assad and recommending Assad for a Chinese Humanitarian Award.







 
MHz
+2
#4
You get offended (and rightfully so) if the deaths of even one IDF is mocked, here you are mocking the deaths of some 2,000 Syrian troops. Your roots are shgowing to your shame. Elections are slated for Iran, see any planned for Saudi Arabia? Reforms are planned for Syria (with the people deciding if the Government sees changes in an election), see any slated for Saudi Arabia? (Bahrain?) Russia is already making statement about outside interference in internal elections, again an act that Israel would support and participate in actively with little or no prompting, that what the CIA and Mossad do. Don't you remember Jimmy Carter setting up the 'resistance' in Afghanistan some 6 months before there was the USSR to resist. In those 6 months the 'rescue squad' was the ones throwing acid into women faces. That qualifies as the moral low ground, quit trying to whitewash things to suit what you would prefer it to be. Face up to the fact, make the needed changes, and move on to a more peaceful existence with neighboring countries.
 
darkbeaver
Republican
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Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

The Beaver had me thinking that Hamas, Hezbollah, the various groups who loves their Jews, Dead that is.

And the headliner would be Imanutjob praising Assad and recommending Assad for a Chinese Humanitarian Award.


Of course you failed to complete the first sentence and the second makes little if any sense. This is CIDD (common intellectual deficit disorder)which runs rampant among the cheer leaders of the apartheid state of Israel, a genocidal blight on the record of mankind, and the worlds haven for organized crime..
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
+2
#6
Post #3 = Hate propaganda.
 
Goober
Free Thinker
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#7
Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Post #3 = Hate propaganda.

Really. Why???????????????????????
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Post #3 = Hate propaganda.

You meant to say, the OP's title=Hate propaganda, right?
 
mentalfloss
#9
Do we seriously have to get into this crap?

Seriously.. Can't we just let Israel and the Middle East just sort themselves out?
 
Goober
Free Thinker
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#10
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

You meant to say, the OP's title=Hate propaganda, right?

No - That would be free speech - Mind you without any critical or balanced thinking involved. That is why is was free. No one wanted it.
 
CDNBear
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

No - That would be free speech - Mind you without any critical or balanced thinking involved. That is why is was free. No one wanted it.

I was using the Usual Suspects definition.
 
Goober
Free Thinker
+1
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

I was using the Usual Suspects definition.

You may have to add another penguin. Appears Cliffy has moved to the Dark Side.



Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

You get offended (and rightfully so) if the deaths of even one IDF is mocked, here you are mocking the deaths of some 2,000 Syrian troops. Your roots are shgowing to your shame. Elections are slated for Iran, see any planned for Saudi Arabia? Reforms are planned for Syria (with the people deciding if the Government sees changes in an election), see any slated for Saudi Arabia? (Bahrain?) Russia is already making statement about outside interference in internal elections, again an act that Israel would support and participate in actively with little or no prompting, that what the CIA and Mossad do. Don't you remember Jimmy Carter setting up the 'resistance' in Afghanistan some 6 months before there was the USSR to resist. In those 6 months the 'rescue squad' was the ones throwing acid into women faces. That qualifies as the moral low ground, quit trying to whitewash things to suit what you would prefer it to be. Face up to the fact, make the needed changes, and move on to a more peaceful existence with neighboring countries.

When an IDF is killed in Combat - that is that - When a terror org slits the throat of a baby just before he is captured. Can you note the difference?

And I see that you think the uprising in Syria is just a plot - ever consider the people have had enough. Look at other countries in the ME - Why would Syria be any different.
 
MHz
+1
#13
Cliffy disagrees so he is 'exiled from the 'collective'? Judge Goldstone is the best example, is that the 'show no quarter' pact?

Jews and Christian lose those labels as soon as they touch a weapon, even Colpy hasn't argued that point. Who is is slitting babies throats, seems like most of the children being likked iv via IDF air strike in Gaza and US drone attacks in Iraq, Afghanistan. Iraq, Sudan, Libya, you get the picture.

If you have the right to arm Syrian Rebels then others have the right to arm the ones you don't like, like Iran installing S-400 air defense system. Do you understand what air-defence means, it means not offensive, do you understand that word in it's everyday use?
 
TenPenny
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Do we seriously have to get into this crap?

Seriously.. Can't we just let Israel and the Middle East just sort themselves out?

I've long believed that would be a good idea, but they have oil, therefore the rest of the world will interfere.

If it wasn't for oil and some believe in holy sites, nobody would give a **** if they all killed each other tomorrow.
 
L Gilbert
No Party Affiliation
+4
#15
Eh. They're all nuts in the ME; more so the people in governments than the regular people.
 
MHz
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Do we seriously have to get into this crap?

Seriously.. Can't we just let Israel and the Middle East just sort themselves out?

Try not clicking on the thread if you don't care for international politics. One ordering many around doesn't work anymore.
 
Goober
Free Thinker
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

Cliffy disagrees so he is 'exiled from the 'collective'? Judge Goldstone is the best example, is that the 'show no quarter' pact?

Jews and Christian lose those labels as soon as they touch a weapon, even Colpy hasn't argued that point. Who is is slitting babies throats, seems like most of the children being likked iv via IDF air strike in Gaza and US drone attacks in Iraq, Afghanistan. Iraq, Sudan, Libya, you get the picture.

If you have the right to arm Syrian Rebels then others have the right to arm the ones you don't like, like Iran installing S-400 air defense system. Do you understand what air-defence means, it means not offensive, do you understand that word in it's everyday use?

No Cliffy has not been exiled. No collective
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
+1
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Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Really. Why???????????????????????


No answer yet, eh?

No big surprise there.
 
Spade
Free Thinker
+1
#19
Perhaps Cliffy is simply pointing out that these cartoons stretch the facts (much in the same way as political cartoons did during the Cold War) to advance an agenda?

Propaganda
Last edited by Spade; Mar 3rd, 2012 at 12:14 PM..
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
+1
#20
The term 'hate speech' is a pretty strong term. In it's own right, labeling the cartoons as hate speech is in it's own right, a suppression of freedom of speech.

Just sayin'
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

Perhaps Cliffy is simply pointing out that these cartoons stretch the facts (much in the same way as political cartoons did during the Cold War) to advance an agenda.

Propaganda

I don't see them being any differently than the works of political cartoonists.
 
Spade
Free Thinker
+1
#22
I am sure Cliffy's reaction was visceral based on the intent of the cartoons. He is not alone in visceral reactions to a point of view.

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

I don't see them being any differently than the works of political cartoonists.

I agree; they are not. Political cartoons advance a point of view.
 
CDNBear
+1
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

I am sure Cliffy's reaction was visceral based on the intent of the cartoons. He is not alone in visceral reactions to a point of view.

No doubt. But hate speech is a stretch.
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
+1
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

I am sure Cliffy's reaction was visceral based on the intent of the cartoons. He is not alone in visceral reactions to a point of view.

I agree; they are not. Political cartoons advance a point of view.


With respect, I'd suggest that the extreme reaction of select Muslim groups to the Danish cartoons was visceral as well... The question is; does it make the reaction acceptable?
 
Spade
Free Thinker
+1
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

With respect, I'd suggest that the extreme reaction of select Muslim groups to the Danish cartoons was visceral as well... The question is; does it make the reaction acceptable?

Certain Muslim groups rioted, issued death threats, fatwa-ed out of proportion. Cliffy's reaction is Mother-Teresa like by comparison.
 
CDNBear
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#26
Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

Certain Muslim groups rioted, issued death threats, fatwa-ed out of proportion. Cliffy's reaction is Mother-Teresa like by comparison.

I was just about to say "I prefer Cliffy's reaction".
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
+1
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

Certain Muslim groups rioted, issued death threats, fatwa-ed out of proportion. Cliffy's reaction is Mother-Teresa like by comparison.

Fair enough, however the principle still stands... Is it reasonable to label an opinion as hate speech by simple virtue as it representing a perspective that you do not support?
 
Spade
Free Thinker
+2
#28
It is subjective. Hate speech is often as much in the ear of the listener as in the the mouth of the speaker. However, both listeners and speakers can up the ante on the march to war. That is an outcome few want.
 
relic
Free Thinker
+1
#29
You only have to go as far as Ottawa to see that what ever the people dealing doesn't like is bad,evil,hateful,or smearing.If you'er in charge, you get to make up the rules.
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
+1
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

It is subjective. Hate speech is often as much in the ear of the listener as in the the mouth of the speaker. However, both listeners and speakers can up the ante on the march to war. That is an outcome few want.


Too true.

I might offer that the first step on that path to conflict begins in the exchange of words.
 

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