#1Jan 30th, 2012
I was watching this video, If I was one of them I'd hate us too.
We have to stop bombing people
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#2Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 30th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom
We're terrible. There is no one worse than us. I wish all those who hate us were our leaders; they'd show us how to behave.--
I was watching this video, If I was one of them I'd hate us too.
Republican
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#3Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 30th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom
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I was watching this video, If I was one of them I'd hate us too.
Hey, I have to be eighteen to watch or sign in. I will never be eighteen again and I ain't signing nothing.
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#4Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 30th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom
I don't get it. You just figured out the US and by association, the rest of the west, is doing this?--
I was watching this video, If I was one of them I'd hate us too.
No Party Affiliation
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#5Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 30th, 2012
Then what would all the people that make bombs do for a job?
Free Thinker
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Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 30th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave
Make garden equipment?Then what would all the people that make bombs do for a job?
No Party Affiliation
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#7Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 30th, 2012
Why? that becomes the question. We are a society built on development and when
people get in the way of progress we bomb them. It used to be called gun boat diplomacy
but since we turned to air power we bomb. A century ago when the west was empire
building it was a good thing. During WWII it was considered a good thing. Now all of a
sudden we are encouraging unemployment. Harper and the Federal Government are making
money like its going out of style because we are bombing and shooting others.
Most don't realize the United States, Israel and Canada's munitions factories have been working
twenty four seven since the series of Middle East conflicts began.
I agree we have to find a better way to solve our problems but in the mean time bombing is still
profitable and it creates jobs. Sometimes the truth is so inconvenient
people get in the way of progress we bomb them. It used to be called gun boat diplomacy
but since we turned to air power we bomb. A century ago when the west was empire
building it was a good thing. During WWII it was considered a good thing. Now all of a
sudden we are encouraging unemployment. Harper and the Federal Government are making
money like its going out of style because we are bombing and shooting others.
Most don't realize the United States, Israel and Canada's munitions factories have been working
twenty four seven since the series of Middle East conflicts began.
I agree we have to find a better way to solve our problems but in the mean time bombing is still
profitable and it creates jobs. Sometimes the truth is so inconvenient
No Party Affiliation
#8
Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 30th, 2012
That's just about the only truth Ron Paul has spoken.
#9
Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 30th, 2012
We created nuclear power to " Bomb Them " ..If we used(re-used) nuclear power(waste) to better sustain the energy needs, of all ..All would be better off ...
We discover; create, and make it...Or misuse, abuse it, and lose it; all ..
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That's why I say.... Invading aliens, will be; if not peaceful... Simply ignorant, or, in the least... Care,.. None the less....OR ELSE... They would never have made it to this planet...
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Al(l)together; We Gotta Get Out There/To Somewhere, equal to, if not greater than here. Try not to blow (ourselves) up; due to lack of Energy/Control , in the Progress /Process ..
Is all about Energy and Information ..The Rest is Recyclable...( a waste )
Peace...Over and Out There From Here..
We discover; create, and make it...Or misuse, abuse it, and lose it; all ..
..........................
_____________________
That's why I say.... Invading aliens, will be; if not peaceful... Simply ignorant, or, in the least... Care,.. None the less....OR ELSE... They would never have made it to this planet...
_____________________
Al(l)together; We Gotta Get Out There/To Somewhere, equal to, if not greater than here. Try not to blow (ourselves) up; due to lack of Energy/Control , in the Progress /Process ..
Is all about Energy and Information ..The Rest is Recyclable...( a waste )
Peace...Over and Out There From Here..
Last edited by GreenFish66; Jan 30th, 2012 at 11:06 PM..
Conservative
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#10Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 31st, 2012
Iran has stated that if they get the bomb, they WILL use it to destroy Israel. Every other country in the Middle East is terrified that Iran will develop the bomb. That's why Saudi Arabia, Turkey and several other countries are now beginning nuclear research, to protect themselves.
You pacifist types simply amaze me. You would MUCH rather be a dead coward, and kiss the ass of anyone that wanted to conquer, than you would to attempt to protect your way of life and civilization.
They have a name for people like you, C O W A R D S!
You pacifist types simply amaze me. You would MUCH rather be a dead coward, and kiss the ass of anyone that wanted to conquer, than you would to attempt to protect your way of life and civilization.
They have a name for people like you, C O W A R D S!
Free Thinker
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#11Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 31st, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by The Old Medic
Brave words from someone who would probably have to gum his enemies ankles after failing to fend them off with his walker. Iran has stated that if they get the bomb, they WILL use it to destroy Israel. Every other country in the Middle East is terrified that Iran will develop the bomb. That's why Saudi Arabia, Turkey and several other countries are now beginning nuclear research, to protect themselves.
You pacifist types simply amaze me. You would MUCH rather be a dead coward, and kiss the ass of anyone that wanted to conquer, than you would to attempt to protect your way of life and civilization.
They have a name for people like you, C O W A R D S!
First off, Iran has not said they would nuke Israel. That is just propaganda from you own war mongers. Like Iraqi WMDs, Iran's nukes will never be found, and yes, they will be bombed back into the stone age just like Iraq, and soldiers will scour the land looking for nukes that your leaders know are not there, and then they will say they really went there to free the people from tyranny and to bring them democracy, and set up their own puppet government who will eventually become incredibly corrupt tell the west to phuk off and steal what the west left behind, just like Iraq.
Now, go take your meds before you hurt yourself.
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#12Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 31st, 2012
Why would Iran or Anyone want to offensively make, and use, a Nuclear Bomb?
...Unless their interest was to piss everyone off, and get themselves blown up!..
Ignorant alarmists are quick to anger..Peaceful doesn't mean Passive...Like comparing Barbaric Animals to Civil Human beings....
How do we prove they're barbaric violent animals; who need disciplined/punished...
While still being, civilized human beings?
There are other reasons, This energy is created.. Like..For Energy/Economic Security/Theatrical Global Interest..This shouldn't even get close to War..
Ridiculous If it ever does...
But; If it does..If Iran is found to be a threat to International/National security..And action is taken ..
Hopefully it will be done quickly, painlessly, and only to those proven guilty ; Beyond a reasonable doubt..
Gotta know what your fighting for...Choose your battles wisely.. When to fight , When to join the fight...Who to fight with/for..OR ..Whatever ...Who cares..remain neutral ..Walk away from all the B.S..
When conflict erupts without proper thought...The end, is uselessly counterproductive..and ..Ultimately , Unnecessarily Sad..For all involved(often including, otherwise innocent others )
I'll place my bets with the World...Iran can't possibly think it's a threat..Why would it want to be?
_________________________________
Possibly unnecessary...Extra spew run off...
Like hearing some potential misinformation from an unreliable gossip source, and prematurely yelling out at the potentially misunderstood opponent.." I hate you, and all your friends too ..."
I learned the hard way in grade 4 to wisely pick your friends and fights....I Took the first guy out, easily .( he was unprepared/didn't expect a thing)...Then I Got punched in the nose by a second, kicked in the ribs by another ..cursed at, and spat on, by the rest of his friends(not to mention the quickly formed allies/Instantly created enemies, and still others who spat and cursed at me ..just cuz they wanted to spit and curse..( I wasn't prepared, didn't expect it .Although I should have ))
I am good friends with the 1st guy, still, to this day; Became friends with all of them, after I talked to, and cleared up the misunderstanding ..
Wish I woulda talked to him first..( In the least, maybe he woulda been a prick, and deserved it)
( Hmm ?..Wonder whatever happened to Gossipin' Gabby Gabberson.?..Think her real name was Gabriel .or somethin.like that ...I can't remember anymore)
Moral ?..-
I guess we learn by our mistakes...Hopefully from others mistakes first ..
( Before unnecessarily/Painfully Paying the Price for our mistake/Before having to Deal with the consequences of our actions, our ignorance later)
__________________________
Over all Moral (?).... It would really suck to be the 1 that everyone else in the Whole World seems to hate...Cuz it means ..Your ( Probably )wrong and you deserve what you get..
.(..And you get what you got...So learn to live with it .Find your peace in it/With it..( Unless you can find a lot of really tough friends or enemies of your enemy, who can forceably help change things. Sometimes that can work ..If it's for the betterment of all involved...For awhile anyway .))
.....
_______________________________
Ultimate Moral ...
Peace OR Pieces?(
Peace ...
( Or whatever )
Oh ....And to anyone who actually read all my spew ...thanks...
________________________
Hey where'd everybody go?. Come back ..Why ya leavin?..Thought we were all having an intensely interesting, extremely meaningful, discussion here..(..lol...)
Ok ..OK ... I'm Over and Outta here .For Real....this time ...No Really .Don't try stoppin me..Gotta go ..
( For Now ..)
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--- And Your right Angstrom ...We gotta stop bombing people---
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Sorry?
...Unless their interest was to piss everyone off, and get themselves blown up!..
Ignorant alarmists are quick to anger..Peaceful doesn't mean Passive...Like comparing Barbaric Animals to Civil Human beings....
How do we prove they're barbaric violent animals; who need disciplined/punished...
While still being, civilized human beings?
There are other reasons, This energy is created.. Like..For Energy/Economic Security/Theatrical Global Interest..This shouldn't even get close to War..
Ridiculous If it ever does...
But; If it does..If Iran is found to be a threat to International/National security..And action is taken ..
Hopefully it will be done quickly, painlessly, and only to those proven guilty ; Beyond a reasonable doubt..
Gotta know what your fighting for...Choose your battles wisely.. When to fight , When to join the fight...Who to fight with/for..OR ..Whatever ...Who cares..remain neutral ..Walk away from all the B.S..
When conflict erupts without proper thought...The end, is uselessly counterproductive..and ..Ultimately , Unnecessarily Sad..For all involved(often including, otherwise innocent others )
I'll place my bets with the World...Iran can't possibly think it's a threat..Why would it want to be?
_________________________________
Possibly unnecessary...Extra spew run off...
Like hearing some potential misinformation from an unreliable gossip source, and prematurely yelling out at the potentially misunderstood opponent.." I hate you, and all your friends too ..."
I learned the hard way in grade 4 to wisely pick your friends and fights....I Took the first guy out, easily .( he was unprepared/didn't expect a thing)...Then I Got punched in the nose by a second, kicked in the ribs by another ..cursed at, and spat on, by the rest of his friends(not to mention the quickly formed allies/Instantly created enemies, and still others who spat and cursed at me ..just cuz they wanted to spit and curse..( I wasn't prepared, didn't expect it .Although I should have ))
I am good friends with the 1st guy, still, to this day; Became friends with all of them, after I talked to, and cleared up the misunderstanding ..
Wish I woulda talked to him first..( In the least, maybe he woulda been a prick, and deserved it)
( Hmm ?..Wonder whatever happened to Gossipin' Gabby Gabberson.?..Think her real name was Gabriel .or somethin.like that ...I can't remember anymore
)Moral ?..-
I guess we learn by our mistakes...Hopefully from others mistakes first ..
( Before unnecessarily/Painfully Paying the Price for our mistake/Before having to Deal with the consequences of our actions, our ignorance later)
__________________________
Over all Moral (?).... It would really suck to be the 1 that everyone else in the Whole World seems to hate...Cuz it means ..Your ( Probably )wrong and you deserve what you get..
.(..And you get what you got...So learn to live with it .Find your peace in it/With it..( Unless you can find a lot of really tough friends or enemies of your enemy, who can forceably help change things. Sometimes that can work ..If it's for the betterment of all involved...For awhile anyway .))
.....
_______________________________
Ultimate Moral ...
Peace OR Pieces?(
Peace ...
( Or whatever )
Oh ....And to anyone who actually read all my spew ...thanks...
________________________
Hey where'd everybody go?. Come back ..Why ya leavin?..Thought we were all having an intensely interesting, extremely meaningful, discussion here..(..lol...)
Ok ..OK ... I'm Over and Outta here .For Real....this time ...No Really .Don't try stoppin me..Gotta go ..
( For Now ..)
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--- And Your right Angstrom ...We gotta stop bombing people---
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Sorry?
Last edited by GreenFish66; Jan 31st, 2012 at 05:05 AM..
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#13Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 31st, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by The Old Medic
The above post shows how uninformed most people are regarding Iran. People who share the belief that Iran made those statements are proof of how easily people can be manipulated by demonizing propaganda. If you share OM's erroneous beliefs I suggest you follow this link and get an informed opinion:Iran has stated that if they get the bomb, they WILL use it to destroy Israel. Every other country in the Middle East is terrified that Iran will develop the bomb. That's why Saudi Arabia, Turkey and several other countries are now beginning nuclear research, to protect themselves.
You pacifist types simply amaze me. You would MUCH rather be a dead coward, and kiss the ass of anyone that wanted to conquer, than you would to attempt to protect your way of life and civilization.
They have a name for people like you, C O W A R D S!
--
BTW, here is the entire Phil Donahue interview from the above video:
Phil Donahue on Ron Paul amp Foreign Policy CNN 1512 - YouTube
At 3:48 he states "I'm not brave enough to be a pacifist". That statement must seem counter intuitive to the manipulated masses who don't understand pacifism.
BTW, Donahue, Connie Chung and other voices of reason were taken off the air during the run up to the Iraq war.
Voices of reason aren't necessarily against war. They are against dumb unnecessary wars. A reasonable person would know its dumb to enter a Hell's Angel's Club house and ask if "Any pussy bikers here want to fight?" Yet the manipulated masses would support such stupidity if their idiot box told them it was a good idea.
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Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 31st, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by eh1eh
Edit...I don't get it. You just figured out the US and by association, the rest of the west, is doing this?
Last edited by EagleSmack; Jan 31st, 2012 at 11:02 AM..
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#15Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 31st, 2012
Not single handedly. We got by with a little help from our friends.
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Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 31st, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by petros
Yes indeed... I misunderstood the post and deleted. We all have blood on our hands.Not single handedly. We got by with a little help from our friends.
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#17Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 31st, 2012
Good thing Algeria and Morocco like the pipeline to Spain idea or we'd would blown their flying tanks, flying power stations and flying water treatment facilities to bits too.
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#18Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 31st, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by The Old Medic
Iran has stated that if they get the bomb, they WILL use it to destroy Israel. Every other country in the Middle East is terrified that Iran will develop the bomb. That's why Saudi Arabia, Turkey and several other countries are now beginning nuclear research, to protect themselves.
You pacifist types simply amaze me. You would MUCH rather be a dead coward, and kiss the ass of anyone that wanted to conquer, than you would to attempt to protect your way of life and civilization.
They have a name for people like you, C O W A R D S!
If we need to bomb the crap out of everyone to have this way of life, then I think that is a very big indication there is a major problem with our civilization.
Quote: Originally Posted by gopher
The mortgage market bubble and 2008 collaps. He was the only one to predict that.That's just about the only truth Ron Paul has spoken.
Bloc Québécois
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#19Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 31st, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom
If we need to bomb the crap out of everyone to have this way of life, then I think that is a very big indication there is a major problem with our civilization.
You mean bombing like this?
Or this?
Attack on the USS Cole
Or this one in London?
I guess I'm a little confused.. Who do you mean by "we"?
Free Thinker
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#20Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 31st, 2012
I know it may be difficult to comprehend, but perhaps by we he means humanity.
Bloc Québécois
#21
Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 31st, 2012
Ahhhh, I get it.
You holding your breath on that Cliffy?
You holding your breath on that Cliffy?
#22
Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 31st, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan
Guess what. We means you and the rest of us who have profited from the "west's" foreign policy. Wait until these people get really pissed at 'we'. You will be whining so loud about your fuel price you won't even here the truth of the matter. Oh, never mind, it's already happening.You mean bombing like this?
Or this?
Attack on the USS Cole
Or this one in London?
I guess I'm a little confused.. Who do you mean by "we"?
Free Thinker
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#23Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 31st, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan
And those bombings you so gleefully present were not retaliation for earlier bombings against them, they were just perpetrated for the hell of it I suppose? Simply because they are a bunch of crazies, religious fanatics with twisted minds that hate our freedoms? Yes, life is so simple when you let your politicians do your thinking for you.Ahhhh, I get it.
You holding your breath on that Cliffy?
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#24Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 31st, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan
So what are you saying?You mean bombing like this?
Or this?
Attack on the USS Cole
Or this one in London?
I guess I'm a little confused.. Who do you mean by "we"?
its "ok" to keep bombing the crap out of them, cause they retaliated to us bombing the crap out of them?
Quote: Originally Posted by gopher
Oh ya and the War on Drugs being a total failur. he's right about that too.That's just about the only truth Ron Paul has spoken.
Free Thinker
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#25Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 31st, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom
But we are sane and rational so our bombing is righteous and they are crazy so they are wrong in retaliating. Doncha get it? Geebuz! Where ya been dude?So what are you saying?
its "ok" to keep bombing the crap out of them, cause they retaliated to us bombing the crap out of them?
Bloc Québécois
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Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 31st, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by eh1eh
Guess what. We means you and the rest of us who have profited from the "west's" foreign policy. Wait until these people get really pissed at 'we'. You will be whining so loud about your fuel price you won't even here the truth of the matter. Oh, never mind, it's already happening.
I won't be whining, we got tons of it here in the prairies.
I do like the comment about foreign policy as it applies to the West and although far from being objective and perfect, at least it doesn't exist on a basis that preys on the feeble minded in convincing them to jerry-rig a bomb in their tightie whities and detonate in a crowd of women and children.
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy
If you say so Cliffy.But we are sane and rational so our bombing is righteous and they are crazy so they are wrong in retaliating. Doncha get it? Geebuz! Where ya been dude?
Last edited by captain morgan; Jan 31st, 2012 at 04:59 PM..
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#27Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 31st, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan
So we push a button from millions of miles away and kill crowd's of women and children and thats ok?I won't be whining, we got tons of it here in the prairies.
I do like the comment about foreign policy as it applies to the West and although far from being objective and perfect, at least it exists on a basis that preys on the feeble minded in convincing them to jerry-rig a bomb in their tightie whities and detonate in a crowd of women and children.
If you say so Cliffy.
Thats what I call C O W A R D L Y!
Quote: Originally Posted by gopher
He's right about the TSA. Airport pat-downs wont make anyone saferThat's just about the only truth Ron Paul has spoken.
No Party Affiliation
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#28Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 31st, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom
Wow! I didn't know we did that! Technology has really advanced that we can kill from so far away! Which planet are we fighting on now and are we sure the denizens are really peaceful? Do they even have women and children?So we push a button from millions of miles away and kill crowd's of women and children and thats ok?
Thats what I call C O W A R D L Y!
#29
Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 31st, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by wulfie68
Wow! I didn't know we did that! Technology has really advanced that we can kill from so far away! Which planet are we fighting on now and are we sure the denizens are really peaceful? Do they even have women and children?
Lol well maybe not millions
Quote: Originally Posted by gopher
He's right about money needing to be backed by something. Gold works.That's just about the only truth Ron Paul has spoken.
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Re: We have to stop bombing people
Jan 31st, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by eh1eh
Then we'll probably bomb them some more.Guess what. We means you and the rest of us who have profited from the "west's" foreign policy. Wait until these people get really pissed at 'we'. You will be whining so loud about your fuel price you won't even here the truth of the matter. Oh, never mind, it's already happening.
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