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Elections for what? Every Rotary Club, every minor hockey association has an election every year.
I don't understand the question.
I was referring to Harper's opposition to France holding elections on Canadian soil. considering that plenty of international organizations, both secular and religious, have been holding elections on Canadian soil for years, I don't see why it would be a problem now. Consider too that many Canadians vote from abroad too.
I don't really get how this works in the first place.
Can you live in Canada and run as a politician for some territory in France?
The French Nationals living in Canada can vote by proxy... This is nothing new, so it does beg the question, why replicate the voting procedure in a foreign nation?
I don't really get how this works in the first place.
Can you live in Canada and run as a politician for some territory in France?
Let's compare France to an NGO:
It was just that harper failed to spark a brainwave before opening his mouth on this.
All France did was make Canada and the US together as an electoral district like any other. This means one member of the National Assembly will be elected by French expats residing in Canada and the US. This has no impact on Canadian sovereignty whatsoever. Whether France wants its expats to have their own representaiton or to vote for candidates in France is really france's business.
All France did was make Canada and the US together as an electoral district like any other. This means one member of the National Assembly will be elected by French expats residing in Canada and the US. This has no impact on Canadian sovereignty whatsoever. Whether France wants its expats to have their own representaiton or to vote for candidates in France is really france's business.
But honestly, I think Canada should copy the French idea.
Chances are that this has much to do with the French gvt approaching Muclair. If so, Harper is doing the right thing
I'll reserve judgement for further critical analysis on this matter, but if it is true that it comes as no harm to sovereignty then I don't see what the fuss is all about.
The right thing for what though?
No, let's not. They are vastly different entities with vastly different goals.
Chances are that this has much to do with the French gvt approaching Muclair. If so, Harper is doing the right thing
Oh conspiracies abound!
They may have different goals, but please explain how it interferes with Canadian sovereignty. It's a french election; it's not like France is insisting on havng a seat in the Canadian Parliament.
if this involves muclair, then is may interfere with canadian (and possibly french) sovereignty.
You figure it out MF.. Maybe you can look into why other nations don't pursue that practice and you'll get the idea.
No conspiracy champ...
There is a reason why nations have prohibitions on allowing foreign nationals from holding positions in gvt. Is that so hard for you to grasp?
IF this involves Muclair, then is MAY interfere with Canadian (and possibly French) sovereignty.
The top 10 democratic states have a very open foreign policy.
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First, we're talking about French expats holding positions in the French government. Hardly foreign nationals.
Secondly, how could Mulcair be a Canadian MP and a member of the French National Assembly at the same time. Kind of hard to be in two places at once, eh.
Now what I could see for Canada would be to prohibit Canadians with dual citizenship from voting in Canadian elections when residing in the other country in which they hold citizenship and from voting in the foreign election when residing in Canada.
Essentially the same concept as an Ontrian moving to Manitoba forfeiting his right to vote in an Ontario election.
Can you highlight the entry in the wiki submission that identifies which of the member nations welcomes the participation of foreign nationals in their Fed gvt?
Can you highlight the entry in the wiki submission that identifies which of the member nations welcomes the participation of foreign nationals in their Fed gvt?
Then why even bring up this ridiculous assertion in the first place?
... And we're not talking about the voting rights of a citizen.. We've moved on, Okay?
A foreign national is not a dual citizen.
Then it's a non-issue, right?
Sure... Then identify where in the wiki article those nations that promote dual citizens taking Federal positions.
They promote citizens running for office, and by definition a dual citizen is a citizen like any other.
No reason to fear.
Sure.. Got some references to nations that support the practice?
Most European countries support citizens running for office.
List of Dual Citizenship Countries
This is the third time that I've asked MF. If you can't find the info to support your position, just say so - there isn't any shame in being wrong on this.
Got a link that shows how these nations promote a dualie being able to hold office in the Federal gvt?
This is the third time that I've asked MF. If you can't find the info to support your position, just say so - there isn't any shame in being wrong on this.
Wrong about what?
A citizen of any country can take office for that country. Countries that allow for dual citizenships typically allow those members to take office for that country unless there is specific legislation which excludes it.
You can't prove a negative. Any evidence they discourage them? As far as I can tell, they neitehr encourage them nor discourage them any more than any otehr citizen. In short, they don't distinguish between their citizens. A citizen is a citizen. As a result there is no official document or law treaing duals differently.
You're in a position wherein you can not provide any documentation to support your contentions and therefore believe that your assumptions must be true... This isn't a request to 'prove a negative' - it's a request to see support for your claims.