Liberal Leadership Race

Liberal Leadership Race

TenPenny

#31

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by NewGlobalOrder

I said eventually. All dirty forms of energy needs to be replaced with cleaner forms. Thousands upon thousands of jobs will be created by building geothermal plants, etc.

But even if that wasn't the case, you either believe we must protect our environment, or you don't. You either believe it is a conspiracy theory that the polar ice-caps are melting, or you don't.

What's a dirty form of energy, and what's a clean form?

darkbeaver

Republican

#32

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by JLM

So we are going to do semantics now!

You're pretty touchy kid.

L Gilbert

No Party Affiliation

#33

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by NewGlobalOrder

I could not remember if this site allowed links or not. Can I post: liberalleadershiprace.wordpress.com without it linking out? I did not read the terms, as I am not a reader.

And thx Cliffy, nice pic!

Put whatever you like in your signature.
Oh, and good luck with the leadership thing.

Quote: Originally Posted by SLM

Some one who doesn't like to read vs Bob Rae.

Six of one, half a dozen of the other. I'm just saying.

lmao

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack

I was going to suggest him moving to the US and become a Democrat.

lol No WAY! You guys have enough comedians in politics there.

Quote: Originally Posted by NewGlobalOrder

This is a democracy.

Wrong. This is a plutarchy that only displays democracy on election days.

NewGlobalOrder

#34

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny

What's a dirty form of energy, and what's a clean form?

I said cleaner forms of energy. While solar panels use the sun for energy, energy, etc, was used to create the solar panels. Geothermal for instance, is not 100% clean energy, there really is no such thing, but if we continue to pollute our air, and destroy our oceans with toxic waste, then there is no future.

If the environment wasn't at stake, of course I would support the XL/Gateway projects, but that isn't the case. Science has proven that the frog will jump out of a pot of water, before it gets too hot.

The only question is, will humanity do the same?

The environment is like a death by a thousand cuts. One car on the road, won't do anything to our air, but a billion cars on the road, 24/7 will.

Conservatives believe (most do) in cutting ourselves to death. I do not.

gerryh

#35

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by NewGlobalOrder

I said cleaner forms of energy. While solar panels use the sun for energy, energy, etc, was used to create the solar panels. Geothermal for instance, is not 100% clean energy, there really is no such thing, but if we continue to pollute our air, and destroy our oceans with toxic waste, then there is no future.

If the environment wasn't at stake, of course I would support the XL/Gateway projects, but that isn't the case. Science has proven that the frog will jump out of a pot of water, before it gets too hot.

The only question is, will humanity do the same?

The environment is like a death by a thousand cuts. One car on the road, won't do anything to our air, but a billion cars on the road, 24/7 will.

Conservatives believe (most do) in cutting ourselves to death. I do not.

How would you know any of that since you don't "read"? You taking other peoples word for what the different studies are saying? Have you read the conflicting studies on GW? Of course you haven't, since you don't like reading big stuff. Yet you are soliciting for peoples votes. I guess you're hoping for just the "dummies" votes and that that will be enough to get you in front of the public trough.

NewGlobalOrder

#36

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh

How would you know any of that since you don't "read"? You taking other peoples word for what the different studies are saying? Have you read the conflicting studies on GW? Of course you haven't, since you don't like reading big stuff. Yet you are soliciting for peoples votes. I guess you're hoping for just the "dummies" votes and that that will be enough to get you in front of the public trough.

Meow!

L Gilbert

No Party Affiliation

#37

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 28th, 2012

I think there is such a thing as clean energy. For instance, one could take birchbark, form it into a bowl and seal any holes with pitch. Put water in it and set it in a sunny spot ----> heated water.

gerryh

#38

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by NewGlobalOrder

Meow!

excellent response from someone that wants to be our representative.

You really are an idiot.

Well, always have to have a few nutcases running, makes for a more interesting election.

TenPenny

#39

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by NewGlobalOrder

I said cleaner forms of energy. While solar panels use the sun for energy, energy, etc, was used to create the solar panels. Geothermal for instance, is not 100% clean energy, there really is no such thing, but if we continue to pollute our air, and destroy our oceans with toxic waste, then there is no future.

If the environment wasn't at stake, of course I would support the XL/Gateway projects, but that isn't the case. Science has proven that the frog will jump out of a pot of water, before it gets too hot.

The only question is, will humanity do the same?

The environment is like a death by a thousand cuts. One car on the road, won't do anything to our air, but a billion cars on the road, 24/7 will.

Conservatives believe (most do) in cutting ourselves to death. I do not.

How do you know what conservatives believe? Don't you have to read?

JLM

No Party Affiliation

#40

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 28th, 2012

I liken this Liberal leadership race like a race for who is to be first on Pluto!

gerryh

#41

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by JLM

I liken this Liberal leadership race like a race for who is to be first on Pluto!

This idiot will NOT be running for the Liberal leadership. Many here may not like the Libs and may feel that the leaders they have had recently are idiots (Dion and Ignatieff), this moron makes every single Liberal leader look like a brain surgeon.

JLM

No Party Affiliation

#42

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh

This idiot will NOT be running for the Liberal leadership. Many here may not like the Libs and may feel that the leaders they have had recently are idiots (Dion and Ignatieff), this moron makes every single Liberal leader look like a brain surgeon.

No kidding!

NewGlobalOrder

#43

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny

How do you know what conservatives believe? Don't you have to read?

I have a magic 8 ball. I asked it if most Conservatives believe the environment is a conspiracy theory, and it said yes. My magic 8 ball is not only my political adviser, but my secret lover too!

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh

This idiot will NOT be running for the Liberal leadership. Many here may not like the Libs and may feel that the leaders they have had recently are idiots (Dion and Ignatieff), this moron makes every single Liberal leader look like a brain surgeon.

Meow! Sounds like someone's cat litter box is full.

JLM

No Party Affiliation

#44

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by NewGlobalOrder

I have a magic 8 ball. I asked it if most Conservatives believe the environment is a conspiracy theory, and it said yes. My magic 8 ball is not only my political adviser, but my secret lover too!

Meow! Sounds like someone's cat litter box is full.

Yep, definitely Prime Minister material.

Quote: Originally Posted by NewGlobalOrder

Meow! Sounds like someone's cat litter box is full.

If I was mean I might suggest you are part of the litter!

gerryh

#45

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by NewGlobalOrder

I have a magic 8 ball. I asked it if most Conservatives believe the environment is a conspiracy theory, and it said yes. My magic 8 ball is not only my political adviser, but my secret lover too!

Meow! Sounds like someone's cat litter box is full.

So, the truth is, you're not only brain dead, but you're a troll too.

lone wolf

Free Thinker

#46

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 28th, 2012

8 ball's not such a great thing on the resume either....

Speak not in terms that will slay you....

taxslave

No Party Affiliation

#47

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack

And you want a Leadership Position in some party and you don't read so much?

Considering that they had a leader that was incoherent in both official languages not surprising. This one must be under 30 and thinks that every thing can be done in 40 character twits.

gerryh

#48

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave

Considering that they had a leader that was incoherent in both official languages not surprising. This one must be under 30 and thinks that every thing can be done in 40 character twits.

You have a problem understanding Jean? If you had pulled your head out of your ass you wouldn't have had that problem. I had no problem understanding the man.

NewGlobalOrder

#49

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh

So, the truth is, you're not only brain dead, but you're a troll too.

Who told you I live under a bridge?

wulfie68

No Party Affiliation

#50

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh

You have a problem understanding Jean? If you had pulled your head out of your ass you wouldn't have had that problem. I had no problem understanding the man.

Neither did I, he was as easy to understand as Trudeau:

Divide; conquer; and to hell with the West and anything that concerns them because they don't vote for me anyway.

gerryh

#51

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by wulfie68

Neither did I, he was as easy to understand as Trudeau:

Divide; conquer; and to hell with the West and anything that concerns them because they don't vote for me anyway.

Ya...isn't it a bitch when you worry more about the majority that elect you rather than the minority that doesn't. Democracy, what a crazy frickin idea eh.......

wulfie68

No Party Affiliation

#52

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 29th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh

Ya...isn't it a bitch when you worry more about the majority that elect you rather than the minority that doesn't. Democracy, what a crazy frickin idea eh.......

Tyranny of the majority isn't always democracy. Democracy should be about whats best for the entire nation, not just the 35% that support you. The same holds true for Harper & Co now but they haven't shown that same tendency (for all their faults).

NewGlobalOrder

#53

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 29th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by wulfie68

Tyranny of the majority isn't always democracy. Democracy should be about whats best for the entire nation, not just the 35% that support you. The same holds true for Harper & Co now but they haven't shown that same tendency (for all their faults).

How that is decided, is by everybody voting in their own interest. Which is why we have public education, etc. The PM may be a Conservative, but he is a smart one.

He breaks his promise about the Senate and about increasing the House, but he only does so, because it benefits him.

I hope Conservative voters now stop acting self righteous about how Liberals/NDP break their word, as Conservative candidates are also politicians, and therefore do politician things.

eh1eh

#54

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 29th, 2012

Whoa. This thread went past post 6. This guy must be 12 or there abouts.

TenPenny

#55

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 29th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by wulfie68

Neither did I, he was as easy to understand as Trudeau:

Divide; conquer; and to hell with the West and anything that concerns them because they don't vote for me anyway.

Oh, here we go with the pathetic 'he picked on the West' stuff.

It's a good thing that Alberta is full of Maritimers, because I think the natives (ie, native Albertans, not Native Canadians) would be too busy crying about how they were treated to get anything done.

captain morgan

Bloc Québécois

#56

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 29th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny

Oh, here we go with the pathetic 'he picked on the West' stuff.

It's a good thing that Alberta is full of Maritimers, because I think the natives (ie, native Albertans, not Native Canadians) would be too busy crying about how they were treated to get anything done.

We've been pretty good at multi-tasking on this one. Last I checked, Alberta was leading the country (possibly the continent) in economic development.

L Gilbert

No Party Affiliation

#57

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 29th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh

You have a problem understanding Jean? If you had pulled your head out of your ass you wouldn't have had that problem. I had no problem understanding the man.

lmao Easy to understand? That's understating it by parsecs. "A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven."
Jean Chretien
Comments like that come from 6 year-olds. lol

"Deficit reduction is not an end in itself. It is the means to an end. Canadians must now decide what kind of country they want to build with the hard-won dividend."
Jean Chretien
Deficit elimination and profit would be a dividend. Deficit reduction is just what it is. There's no dividend until you have NO deficit.

Yeah, ChRETIeN is easy to understand. Whatta dipshyte he is.

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh

Ya...isn't it a bitch when you worry more about the majority that elect you rather than the minority that doesn't. Democracy, what a crazy frickin idea eh.......

lol We have a democratic country when it's an election day. The rest of the time we live in a plutarchy.

Quote: Originally Posted by NewGlobalOrder

How that is decided, is by everybody voting in their own interest.

Bullshyte. You really think everyone only votes with their own interests in mind?

Quote:

I hope Conservative voters now stop acting self righteous about how Liberals/NDP break their word, as Conservative candidates are also politicians, and therefore do politician things.

Now that, I can agree with. The rule of thumb around here is that all politicians are liars and guilty until proven innocent.

Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny

Oh, here we go with the pathetic 'he picked on the West' stuff.

Turdeau didn't pick on the west..... well except for springing the NEP on it. Mostly he just alienated the west.

Quote:

It's a good thing that Alberta is full of Maritimers, because I think the natives (ie, native Albertans, not Native Canadians) would be too busy crying about how they were treated to get anything done.

Actually most of us have gotten past Turdeau. We just haven't forgotten about him. No-one I know lives their life according to how much of a turd Turdeau was.

NewGlobalOrder

#58

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 29th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by L Gilbert

Bullshyte. You really think everyone only votes with their own interests in mind?

Is it not in your best interest to have roads, health-care, education?

L Gilbert

No Party Affiliation

#59

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 29th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by NewGlobalOrder

Is it not in your best interest to have roads, health-care, education?

It's in EVERYONE's best interest. For instance, I think it's in everyone's best interest to have good education and so I don't mind paying a part of it even though I have no direct benefit from it. I give to charities, too.
People do things other than just for self-interest, you know.

NewGlobalOrder

#60

Re: Liberal Leadership Race

Jan 29th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by L Gilbert

It's in EVERYONE's best interest. For instance, I think it's in everyone's best interest to have good education and so I don't mind paying a part of it even though I have no direct benefit from it. I give to charities, too.
People do things other than just for self-interest, you know.

Yes, you're right about charities, but when I said everyone's self interest, I was using it in a general term. It is in everyone's self interest that we have good government, and as long as the majority feel that way, then that is what we will have.

But I do get what you're saying.

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