Liberals vote to legalize Marijuana

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Liberals vote to retain ties to monarchy, legalize marijuana

It’s as good a motto as any for the federal Liberal party after members voted Sunday morning to make the legalization of marijuana a party policy and rejected a motion to sever ties with the monarchy.

The two proposals had been hotly contested within the party, which is attempting to find a new direction and policies that will resonate with Canadians and help pull it back from the brink.

The night before, delegates at the party’s biennial convention in Ottawa voted to open the party to outsiders by creating a new, free category of membership. They are hoping the change will revolutionize the way politics is done in Canada and help the party rebuild. On Sunday, a U.S.-style process of choosing the party’s leaders through a primary voting system was also narrowly rejected.

But for a while on Sunday morning, it looked like the hundreds of Liberal delegates gathered in a convention hall only blocks from Parliament Hill were opposed to any controversial policy proposals.

Of the more than 1,200 delegates who voted on whether severing ties with the monarchy should become party policy, 67 per cent were opposed.

Prior to the vote, some Liberals had described the idea as the type of bold policy idea that Canadians — and party members — were looking for.

“Last night, our party chose to adopt a more open process to select our leader,” said delegate Sean Sutherland. “It’s time that we had a discussion about doing the same with our head of state.”

Others reminded delegates of the role the Liberal party played in repatriating the Constitution and creating the Maple Leaf.

Those opposed, however, worried about creating a republic with the head of state beholden to politics as well as the impact on Aboriginals given that treaties are with the Crown.

“We need to tread very carefully before we make this decision,” said Liberal aboriginal affairs critic Carolyn Bennett.

Debate over whether to legalize marijuana was equally contentious, though 77 per cent of delegates voted in favour of legalization.

Samuel Lavoie, president of the Young Liberals of Canada, which proposed both motions, said he was excited to see the “overwhelming” support from members to legalize marijuana, but isn’t certain whether it will get into the party’s federal election platform.

“There is no doubt that there’s a strong will from the membership to have this part of our election platform,” Lavoie said. “As to whether it will be a platform commitment in 2015, we will see.”

Delegates also supported changing the way Canadians elect their federal representatives, with voters ranking candidates in order of preference.

None of the proposals have to be adopted as official party policy as Liberals agreed Saturday night to let the party’s leader keep his or her veto power over the election platform.

Lavoie said he recognized the federal leader could still keep the marijuana resolution from being included in the platform and that some members have concerns with it, but hoped the party will follow the will of the members.

“The next election is four years down the road, so there’s lot of room for debate,” he said. “It will be difficult for anyone to just ignore the result and the will of the membership.”

An attempt to adopt a U.S.-style process of choosing the party’s leaders was also narrowly rejected on Sunday.

The primary system proposal would have had leadership candidates elected on a staggered province-by-province, region-by-region campaign spread out over several days or weeks to generate interest and ensure Liberals in all parts of the country get a say.

Delegates worried such a selection process would be extremely divisive and see candidates rip each other apart, much like Republicans are turning on each other in an effort to secure the presidential nomination.
 

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Majority of Canadians support legalizing or decriminalizing marijuana, new poll suggests

Canadians have green on their minds, but not in the environmental sense, according to a new poll.

Released on Tuesday, the poll suggests 66% of Canadians are in favour of the legalization or decriminalization of marijuana, with just 20% supporting leaving the laws as they are now.

The poll, conducted by Toronto-based Forum Research Inc., showed that residents of British Columbia were the most likely to support marijuana laws reform, with 73% of respondents indicating laws should be changed. Quebec had the lowest support for reforms, though the majority of respondents, 61%, supported changing marijuana legislation.



This public support comes on the heels of a new party policy approved at the Liberal Party of Canada’s renewal convention pushing for the legalization and regulation of marijuana. While it was the Liberals’ youth wing who initially put forward the motion, the poll shows it’s baby boomers who are the most likely to respond favourably to new marijuana legislation.

Respondents aged 55- to- 64 were the most likely to support legalization or decriminalization, with 73% supporting a shift. All other demographics polled in the mid- to- high- 60s in support of marijuana law reform.

“The public no longer favours devoting the time and resources required to restrict marijuana use and possession, while many feel the best strategy is to legalize and tax its sale,” wrote Lorne Bozinoff, president of Forum Research Inc., in a press release accompanying the research. “For a majority of Canadians, the war on this particular drug needs to end.”



But for all the fuss made at the Liberal renewal convention, respondents who voted for the party in the 2011 election lagged behind the NDP in their support for new regulations. Of Liberal-voting respondents, 64% supported marijuana law reform, only polling higher than Conservative voters, of which only 59% are in favour of change. NDP voters were 71% in favour. Green Party-voters were the most likely to support reform, according to the poll, with 78% of respondents in favour.

The poll was conducted December 13th in an interactive voice response telephone survey of 1,160 residents 18 or older, with a margin of error of plus or minus 2.9%, 19 times out of 20.



Majority of Canadians support legalizing or decriminalizing marijuana, new poll suggests | Canada | News | National Post
 

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The Real Problem With Legalizing Marijuana | A Bear's Rant

Not our own bear....or at least I think not...... :)
Another problem will be that Monsanto will develop a Frankenweed variety and through legal bullying, force all growers to use their seeds and of course they will not produce viable seeds so you will have to buy your seeds from them every year. If you try to use your own varieties and they happen to get cross pollinated by Monsanto's Frankenweed, they will sue your ass off for growing their product without a license, forcing you out of business.

PS: Satan is the CEO of Monsanto.
 

petros

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Greenie weenies will vote to legalize then realize that indoor weed is evil to the environment and it's wasting crop space outdoors for bio-fuels because it's better to burn food.
 

Cliffy

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Greenie weenies will vote to legalize then realize that indoor weed is evil to the environment and it's wasting crop space outdoors for bio-fuels because it's better to burn food.
A much bigger waste of good agricultural land, especially in the lower mainland in BC, is golf courses. Prime ag land used for recreational purposes is a monument to mindless consumer culture.
 

petros

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lol Now that the Glibs have figured out that the public doesn't mind the idea, they want it legalized. Wasn't all that long ago they were against the idea. Talk about fickle.
They tabled a decrim bill 6 years ago but it was lost in the shuffle of the election and wasn't re-tabled by the Tories.
 

JamesBondo

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There is talk about legalizing and taxing it where there is an assumption that the revenue will make a difference. I wonder how true that is. Anyone know what percentage of gov revenues come from cigarette and alcohol taxes?
 

Ron in Regina

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There is talk about legalizing and taxing it where there is an assumption that the revenue will make a difference. I wonder how true that is. Anyone know what percentage of gov revenues come from cigarette and alcohol taxes?


I couldn't even tell you what %'age of a pack of smokes or a bottle of
booze is tax's and what isn't, let alone the %'age it contributes to the
general revenue.

With a healthy blackmarket already in place, and the fact that anyone
can grow the stuff almost everywhere (indoors for sure, and outdoors
in much of Canada almost 1/2 the year), legalized & taxed pot will have
some stiff competition....without the government burocratic overhead to
add to the cost....I'm not sure that taxed Gov't pot would be all that big of
a seller.

BTW....isn't the "Legalize & Tax Marijuana" stance the mantra
of the party in 3rd place (?) where they know that they'll never
get in and then have to deal directly with our neighbours to
the south? I thought the Liberals where in 2nd place in the
polls?
 

The Old Medic

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If the majority of Canadians favored Infanticide, would that make it right?

God help any country, who's leaders govern according to the whims of the populace.
 

MHz

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Does anybody remember that hemp is the most useful variety of the plant? It's been legal for 10 years, the product list is close to zero, new native varieties is close to zero. Pretty much pissed away any advantage that time would have given us. It's not like smoking it can make us any dumber than we already are.


Out of curiosity why is this a bad thing? "mouth-breathing"
 

DurkaDurka

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Does anybody remember that hemp is the most useful variety of the plant? It's been legal for 10 years, the product list is close to zero, new native varieties is close to zero. Pretty much pissed away any advantage that time would have given us. It's not like smoking it can make us any dumber than we already are.


Out of curiosity why is this a bad thing? "mouth-breathing"

It's not a bad thing, as long as you recognize that you are such.