Tory Transport Minister Once Card-Carrying Bloc Member...

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Given the recent news, I'd say that the Tories best put a sock in it and Bob Rae better hope there are no former Bloc Members in his party.

Considering this recent revelation I will have nothing further to add to the Turmel thread.

The Conservative government has confirmed it has a former Bloc Quebecois member among its rank of ministers, news that comes a week after the NDP revealed its interim leader was previously tied to the separatist party.



Transport Minister Denis Lebel's office confirmed Tuesday that the minister once held a Bloc membership card, but offered few details about his relationship with the party, including why he joined.



Vanessa Schneider, a spokesperson for Lebel, told CTVNews.ca that the minister "was never actively involved" with the Bloc before joining the Conservatives and running for office in 2007.



"I made a choice in 2007 and I'm very proud of that choice," Schneider quoted Lebel as saying.



Schneider could not provide the exact dates that Lebel joined and quit the Bloc. In 2007, Lebel ran for the Conservatives in a byelection in Roberval--Lac-Saint-Jean, where he succeeded former Bloc leader Michel Gauthier.
The news comes after the Tories and Liberals spent the better part of a week criticizing the NDP for selecting Nycole Turmel as interim leader over her ties to both the Bloc and the provincial Quebec Solidaire.



Turmel has confirmed she was a card-carrying member of the Bloc for about four years before turning in her card in January. She said that while she is still a member of Quebec Solidaire, she intends to let her membership lapse. Turmel said she joined the Bloc to support friend and former Bloc MP Carole Lavallee, and joined Quebec Solidaire because of its work on social justice issues.
Last week, interim Liberal leader Bob Rae told reporters that to him, Turmel's explanation for joining the Bloc "doesn't add up." He said a true federalist would never have joined the separatist party.



"What kind of federalism is it that leads someone to join two other parties, both of which are committed to the independence of Quebec, the sovereignty of Quebec and in the case of Quebec Solidaire a socialist Quebec," he said.
"What is she thinking?"



Last week, Prime Minister Stephen Harper called Turmel's affiliations "disappointing," and questioned the NDP's commitment to Canada. Dimitri Soudas, Harper's spokesperson, said the NDP is "not up to the job of governing Canada."



In response, the NDP issued a statement that, among other things, said Lebel "was an active member of the Bloc Quebecois" and that Tory MP Maxime Bernier had once served as a political aide to former Quebec premier Bernard Landry.
The statement went on to ask, "why politicians who live in glass houses are throwing stones."



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When is he due to become the interim leader of the CPoC?

Interim leader of the Official Opposition. Minister of Transportation for the ruling government. Six of one, half a dozen of the other. Mostly because I don't care that much what they were doing 6 months or 6 years ago. I care about what they're doing now.

Given the recent news, I'd say that the Tories best put a sock in it and Bob Rae better hope there are no former Bloc Members in his party.

Considering this recent revelation I will have nothing further to add to the Turmel thread.

It's the appearance of deceit, of being secretive that taints the picture for the most part, I think. At least it seems like he's getting out in front of it, somewhat.

Wouldn't it be really weird if Bob Rae is the one that comes out of all this smelling like a rose though?
 

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Interim leader of the Official Opposition. Minister of Transportation for the ruling government. Six of one, half a dozen of the other. Mostly because I don't care that much what they were doing 6 months or 6 years ago. I care about what they're doing now.
I was just asking a question.
 

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I was just asking a question.
I was just posting an answer. ;)

Actually I just hope this all dies down, all of it, before the House reconvenes. If I've got to listen to soundbites from Question Period on this topic every night on the evening news, I'm gonna be ticked.
 

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I once flirted with joining the MWS, when I was a radical, militant Native.

I guess I'm doomed to be punished for those follies for the rest of my life?

MWS? Men Who wear Stockings?

No Bear, but it's awful hard to throw stones when you live in a glass house.

If we are to give the Tories a break on this then the NDP deserve the same.
 

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MWS? Men Who wear Stockings?
The excellent LOL aside, Mohawk warrior Society.

No Bear, but it's awful hard to throw stones when you live in a glass house.
I find it real easy to throw stones at fellow Natives that keep perpetuating stereotypes, and claiming whitey is out to get us. Dumpy maybe, but not whitey.

If we are to give the Tories a break on this then the NDP deserve the same.
Nope, as Colpy pointed out elsewhere. 6 years ago, compared to Tuesday. Conveniently timed.
 

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Maybe we should just investigate the past of every elected official in this country and get it over with.

Let's resurrect McCarthy and get this party started!

Cuz hockey will starting soon and we don't want anything to interfere with that!
 

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Maybe we should just investigate the past of every elected official in this country and get it over with.

Let's resurrect McCarthy and get this party started!
Giving someone deserved grief for dropping their membership, conveniently, as she is about to become the interim leader of the opposition. Is a far cry from McCarthy-ism.

Please don't start sounding like the usual suspects. I really like you as you are.

Cuz hockey will starting soon and we don't want anything to interfere with that!
That's why the gov't loves to help sports.

It keeps the unwashed masses busy, while they root through the cupboards.
 

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Maybe we should just investigate the past of every elected official in this country and get it over with.

Let's resurrect McCarthy and get this party started!

Cuz hockey will starting soon and we don't want anything to interfere with that!

Way, way off the mark on that - when did he leave the party?
 

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Giving someone deserved grief for dropping their membership, conveniently, as she is about to become the interim leader of the opposition. Is a far cry from McCarthy-ism.

Please don't start sounding like the usual suspects. I really like you as you are.

That's why the gov't loves to help sports.

It keeps the unwashed masses busy, while they root through the cupboards.

Usual suspects mean what they say and aren't tongue-in-cheek sarcastic, I am. (Maybe I should've done a winky face?)

Mostly just trying to convey my desire that it be dealt with so that the focus can instead be on current issues, like the economy for instance. Turmel is gonna be there and gone before you know it and I don't really care what any Minister was doing 6 years ago as long as it wasn't illegal (which of course it wasn't).

McCarthy was intended to be humourous. Meh, I have a weird sense of humour and sometimes I miss the mark. C'est la vie!

Will you still respect me in the morning? ;)
 

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Usual suspects mean what they say and aren't tongue-in-cheek sarcastic, I am. (Maybe I should've done a winky face?)
I should have put a smilie face. In hindsight, that was a cruel jab without the intended inflexion indicated.
Mostly just trying to convey my desire that it be dealt with so that the focus can instead be on current issues, like the economy for instance. Turmel is gonna be there and gone before you know it and I don't really care what any Minister was doing 6 years ago as long as it wasn't illegal (which of course it wasn't).
Ditto. But I do love to grind on them so.

McCarthy was intended to be humourous. Meh, I have a weird sense of humour and sometimes I miss the mark. C'est la vie!
You didn't miss, I actually got the haha. I was trying to be funny and it got lost in translation.

Will you still respect me in the morning? ;)
Always. ;-)
 

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I should have put a smilie face. In hindsight, that was a cruel jab without the intended inflexion indicated.
Ditto. But I do love to grind on them so.

You didn't miss, I actually got the haha. I was trying to be funny and it got lost in translation.

Always. ;-)
I wasn't worried. Not realllly.

Lost in translation is how I live my life. I always try to either leave 'em laughing or leave 'em wondering what the hell I meant. :)

Either way, they'll be thinking about me after I'm gone.
 

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Usual suspects mean what they say and aren't tongue-in-cheek sarcastic, I am. (Maybe I should've done a winky face?)

Mostly just trying to convey my desire that it be dealt with so that the focus can instead be on current issues, like the economy for instance. Turmel is gonna be there and gone before you know it and I don't really care what any Minister was doing 6 years ago as long as it wasn't illegal (which of course it wasn't).

McCarthy was intended to be humourous. Meh, I have a weird sense of humour and sometimes I miss the mark. C'est la vie!

Will you still respect me in the morning? ;)

As long as you make the coffee and bring me a cup along with the newspaper
 

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As long as you make the coffee and bring me a cup along with the newspaper
I always make the coffee. Because nobody else makes it right.

The other part you do have reversed, you're aware of that right? :)

Good...

Typical woman...



I hope you stick around, even when we don't agree, you're fun to have around.
Fun to have around? Duh! That's the leave em laughing part, lol.

And honey, I ain't a typical anything!
 

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I always make the coffee. Because nobody else makes it right.

The other part you do have reversed, you're aware of that right? :)


Fun to have around? Duh! That's the leave em laughing part, lol.

And honey, I ain't a typical anything!

Of course - You would be quite tired, how inconsiderate of me. You and would have to make the coffee before the night began.