#1Jul 6th, 2009
Eliminate the RCMP.......Change the Guard !
Canadas reputation .
Eliminate the RCMP.......Change the Guard !
#2
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 6th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by china
Restore the high standards!To build a reputation Canada lost 120 soldiers fighting for a better world,in Afghanistan.Meanwhile RCMP is ruining our good name.The world is watching the Dziekanski case .
Eliminate the RCMP.......Change the Guard !
#3
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 6th, 2009
Perhaps the top echelon of the RCMP should not have a police background? Or maybe they need to look at their hiring standards. Not sure what but something has to change.
#4
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 6th, 2009
Another of Canada's reputations is the wheels of justice move slow. Remind me never to invite you fishing....
#5
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 7th, 2009
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Likewise .Another of Canada's reputations is the wheels of justice move slow. Remind me never to invite you fishing....
#6
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 7th, 2009
Canada's reputation is intact, when people come to Canada they'll think twice before they try to throw a chair at the police.
In Poland if this guy tried to thow a chair at the police they would have shot him dead.
Seems like you don't like to take orders from the police.
In Poland if this guy tried to thow a chair at the police they would have shot him dead.
Seems like you don't like to take orders from the police.
#7
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 7th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by china
It's a tough one- the R.C.M.P. is comprised of humans and some are good and a few are bad- the only solution I can see is having them monitored by an independent body. I think the R.C.M.P. by and large are good but unfortunately a guy like Monty Robinson (involved in the airport tasering and later charged with DUI in a fatal accident involving a motorcyclist) can do a lot of damage and as far as I know is still a paid member of the force almost two years later. I guess finding enough decent people qualified to handle more and more crime is getting to be more of a problem.To build a reputation Canada lost 120 soldiers fighting for a better world,in Afghanistan.Meanwhile RCMP is ruining our good name.The world is watching the Dziekanski case .
Eliminate the RCMP.......Change the Guard !
#8
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 7th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by Liberalman
This is the most ridiculous thing you have ever posted, in a long long list of ridiculous posts.Canada's reputation is intact, when people come to Canada they'll think twice before they try to throw a chair at the police.
In Poland if this guy tried to thow a chair at the police they would have shot him dead.
Seems like you don't like to take orders from the police.
The RCMP repeatedly assaulted the guy with a weapon, then prevented him from getting proper first aid, then lied about it.
That is manslaughter, pure and simple.
#9
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 7th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by petros
I fully agree.Restore the high standards!
First, stop gender and racially based preferencial hiring........hire on MERIT ONLY!
Second, change the training regimen that puts such emphasis on personal safety......the line now is "the only thing that counts is that you go home at the end of your shift".....and that is WRONG!
Third, put a new training emphasis on Service.......
Fourth, make it easier to have officers with troubles removed from the force....or put in jobs without public contact.
Fifth....severely restrict the use of tasers.....classify them as lethal force.
#10
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 7th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy
Absolutely, at the very least, if not murder - when I read his post I just took it to be a little sarcasm, just to keep things on the light side.This is the most ridiculous thing you have ever posted, in a long long list of ridiculous posts.
The RCMP repeatedly assaulted the guy with a weapon, then prevented him from getting proper first aid, then lied about it.
That is manslaughter, pure and simple.
#11
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 7th, 2009Quote:
The RCMP repeatedly assaulted the guy with a weapon
When the guy fell they stopped shooting because the guy was pumped up on something.
Look at the shooting in Barrie Ontario. Two rookie police officers approached a man who started to stab the police with a knife one of the police officers drew his gun and went after the man and it took six shots to drop the man who died shortly.
The police were doing their job and the RCMP was within their legal rights to do it.
Like I said the people that come to Canada will give more respect to the police.
#12
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 7th, 2009Quote:
Use the gun instead lethal force is that.classify tasers as lethal force.
Go to any other country and they shoot first.
According to the video the RCMP ttried to negotiate with him but he was using a chair as a weapon.
Last edited by Liberalman; Jul 7th, 2009 at 06:24 AM..Reason: ....
#13
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 7th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by Liberalman
The Barrie Ontario shooting was fully justified (it seems) the guy attacked and wounded the officers with a knife.
When the guy fell they stopped shooting because the guy was pumped up on something.
Look at the shooting in Barrie Ontario. Two rookie police officers approached a man who started to stab the police with a knife one of the police officers drew his gun and went after the man and it took six shots to drop the man who died shortly.
The police were doing their job and the RCMP was within their legal rights to do it.
Like I said the people that come to Canada will give more respect to the police.
The Polish guy had a stapler, and attacked NO ONE!
A stapler. Attacked no one.
Gimme a break.
As well, they refused to allow First Responders to properly treat the guy.
Manslaughter....pure and simple.
#14
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 7th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by Liberalman
Use the Taser ONLY when use of the firearm would be acceptable.Use the gun instead lethal force is that.
Go to any other country and they shoot first.
According to the video the RCMP ttried to negotiate with him but he was using a chair as a weapon.
"When you or another person is in immediate danger of death or greivous bodily harm" is the rule.
I used to teach this stuff to armed guys.
BTW, the "other countries shoot first" line is complete horsepucky.
#15
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 7th, 2009Quote:
So you are saying that police should use lethal force after they are attacked that is ridiculous.fully justified (it seems) the guy attacked and wounded the officers with a knife.
The police are required to tell the person drop your weapon and if they don'e and try to attack the police they are within their legal fight to defend themselves using leathal force.
A stapler so now your saying that an attack of a stapler where an officer might lose an eye that's ok.
Up until now Tasers were considered a non-leathal weapon that was at the descretion of the police.
#16
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 7th, 2009
Quickly Robin! To the knee jerk machine!
This policy of killing people has got to go!
This policy of killing people has got to go!
#17
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 7th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by Liberalman
Negotiate? HE DIDN'T SPEAK ENGLISH!!!!!!!!!!!! EVERYONE AT THE GODDAM AIRPORT KNEW THAT.According to the video the RCMP ttried to negotiate with him but he was using a chair as a weapon.
I know you like to be an aplogist for stupidity, but really, get a grip on yourself.
The RCMP wasted no time in thinking about the situation, or trying to defuse it. They pulled out their Tazers and killed the guy. Plain and simple.
#18
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 7th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by Liberalman
Do you know how far an office stapler will shoot a staple? About 2 inches.A stapler so now your saying that an attack of a stapler where an officer might lose an eye that's ok.
You'd have to be pretty close to lose an eye from a stapler.
Why don't you go back to your gay-bashing threads, that seems to be something you're qualified to talk about. You're over your head in here.
#19
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 7th, 2009
When Canada signed up with NATO, it was for keeps. You attack any of our allies, you attack us. When our allies go to war, we go to war.
Canada's reputation is not in jeopardy. Canada fullfilled her obligation to an international treaty.
Canada's reputation is not in jeopardy. Canada fullfilled her obligation to an international treaty.
Last edited by YukonJack; Jul 7th, 2009 at 08:02 AM..
#20
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 7th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny
Never did hear if the stapler was loaded..........Do you know how far an office stapler will shoot a staple? About 2 inches.
You'd have to be pretty close to lose an eye from a stapler.
Why don't you go back to your gay-bashing threads, that seems to be something you're qualified to talk about. You're over your head in here.
#21
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 7th, 2009
The police were with their legal rights Obey the police of face the consequences
I don’t do gay bashing but if you read all the post instead of just a few words you would know that
I don’t do gay bashing but if you read all the post instead of just a few words you would know that
#22
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 7th, 2009Quote:
Obviously you live on a different planet.Canada's reputation is intact, when people come to Canada they'll think twice before they try to throw a chair at the police.
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No ,that's in Canada ,except he didn,t throw a chair at anyone but was murdered anyways .In Poland if this guy tried to thow a chair at the police they would have shot him dead.
Polish policeman would never shoot an unarmed person ;for your information if those RCMP fellas were unarmed ,one Polish policeman would cripple all four of them, in a very short time .
And I mean cripple for life ; trust me , unlike you,I know what I am saying .
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You are right,.When I turned 58, I became a freedom fighter and I don't take no orders from no one .
Seems like you don't like to take orders from the police.
Last edited by china; Jul 7th, 2009 at 10:03 AM..
#23
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 7th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by china
Why aren't you fighting for freedom in China then?You are right,.When I turned 58, I became a freedom fighter and I don't take no orders from no one .
#24
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 7th, 2009
The wheels of justice still turn slowly. Whether that's to get to the bottom of things or to drag it on until folks have forgot is another matter. It's not like we can just call up the army to shoot anyone who disagrees.
#25
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 7th, 2009
"The police were with their legal rights Obey the police of face the consequences"- I'm not sure about that, I'm more interest in their moral rights. They tasered the poor guy within 25 seconds of arriving on the scene- that tells me they didn't contemplate other options- like maybe seeking out a person conversant in Polish and trying to talk first. Pretty hard to obey what you can't understand.
#26
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 7th, 2009
DurkaDurka
China ,
Any expat from US or Canada will tell you that they have more freedom here in China than they had in their respective countries; an so do I.
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Why don,t you fight for freedom in Canada DD? you really think you have it ( the freedom )? you might be next Mr Dziekanski .Why aren't you fighting for freedom in China then?
China ,
Any expat from US or Canada will tell you that they have more freedom here in China than they had in their respective countries; an so do I.
Last edited by china; Jul 7th, 2009 at 10:27 AM..
#27
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 7th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by china
I have plenty of freedom in Canada and I also know that I will not be slaughtered on the street if I choose to protest something, unlike the current crisis in China where the police have killed 150 ethic Uighurs.DurkaDurka
Why don,t you fight for freedom in Canada DD? you really think you have it ? you might be next Mr Dziekanski .
China ,
Any expat from US or Canada will tell you that they have more freedom here in China than they had in their respective countries.
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#28
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 7th, 2009
Maybe they should teach these guys a thing or two about hand to hand combat. A well trained officer up against some random will do just fine, especially when he's being backed up the whole time. What happened to the billy sticks? A good club to the thigh would take that guy down, and he would be fine in an hour. Seems to me like the police are either getting scared, or lazy.
#29
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 7th, 2009
Society is a mirror to the people in it. If people's standards have taken a nose-dive then that is reflected in society.
#30
Re: Canadas reputation .
Jul 7th, 2009
DurkaDurka,
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You are so wrong ,almost confused DD.I have plenty of freedom in Canada and I also know that I will not be slaughtered on the street if I choose to protest something, unlike the current crisis in China where the police have killed 150 ethic Uighurs.
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