Things I don't like about Canada.


turubawebmaster
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The thing about Canadian Content is just for Canada to have their own media but the truth is most of us our into American media.... I think theres nothing wrogn with us being into american media... We are neighboring countries and we share a lot of values among the americans... Free trade is one and the americans are there for us if we ever get attacked... We don't have to only watch Canadian content to be Canadian... We are Canadian because we are strong and proud and thats what makes every one of us Canadian... Hockey especially is our tradition... I think most of us watch hockey night in Canada so don't think we're camouflaged americans just because we watch some american media
 
turubawebmaster
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Quote: Originally Posted by ColpyView Post

Oh boy, a complaints dep't!

In absolute order of importance.

1. Idiotic gun laws.

2. A completely baseless national sense of moral superiority.

3. The Liberal Party of Canada (see 1 and 2)

Those would be my top three...........

I think you're right about that... but i also think theres a lack of responsibility in the immigration policy... look at the crimes we've had in Toronto and especially those that were imported here during the past decade... We give people the opportunity for a good life here in Canada and they don't seem to appreciate life here... I see that a lot with the islamic groups here and im not saying theyre all bad cuz im sure a lot of them are just trying to live a normal Canadian life... But with the terrorism that happened during 9-11 and did you hear about the muslim truck drivers? These are serious issues we have not only in Canada but the Americans have in their hands as well... I think those truck drivers with fake licenses should be off the roads before they kill more people... For every newcomer... Our laws are meant to be followed so live with it or else don't come here... Im just saying the government should really focus more on whats going on
its not only for minority groups its for everyone
we can all get along if everyone works things out
I believe in a senate election not everything in hands of the government, this is not democracy
Democracy to me means an equal oportunity by our citizens, not the government taking everything in its hands to do things they think is right...
I believe we can change that if everyone stands up
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Sassy: What a horrible experience for you to go thru. and totally unacceptable. I hate when things are unfair and have contacted federal/prov. MP's/MLA's when I couldn't get things done. For the most part, I have been successful after doing this.

My sister-in-law was diagnosed w/breast cancer. She'd been in the workforce for less than 10 years. She applied for CPP disability and rec'd it with no hassle and, if I recall, rather quickly despite gov't. bureacracy (w/in a couple of months). She's back to work now, but if she can't handle it, she'll go back on. In fact, when she called them to say she was back at work, they told her to wait awhile before cancelling her benefits, "just in case".

I had a "chuckle" about your attempt to make a point but I doubt it had any impact.

Take Care!
 
McDonald
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Quote: Originally Posted by turubawebmasterView Post

The thing about Canadian Content is just for Canada to have their own media but the truth is most of us our into American media.... I think theres nothing wrogn with us being into american media... We are neighboring countries and we share a lot of values among the americans... Free trade is one and the americans are there for us if we ever get attacked... We don't have to only watch Canadian content to be Canadian... We are Canadian because we are strong and proud and thats what makes every one of us Canadian... Hockey especially is our tradition... I think most of us watch hockey night in Canada so don't think we're camouflaged americans just because we watch some american media

Of course we all consume American media, and I am not saying there is anything wrong with that whatsoever. I love American movies, shows, and music (not all of it, obviously). We are still able to watch American TV and stuff, CanCon hasn't stopped that and it wasn't meant to. It was mearly meant to assure that we have access to our own media. It's absolutely necessary that we have our own cultural industries as well, like every other country. Without CanCon protections, those industries would be quickly swallowed up. That is why I support CanCon.

Wouldn't you like to see a real film that actually takes place in your own country. I like American movies too, and Australian movies, British movies, French movies, German movies, and French-Canadian movies... but I rarely ever see a real English-Canadian film that is unabashedly Canadian. I for one would like to see more English-Canadian films representing our country abroad, but it starts at home and I would personally support any government which took steps to stimulate and encourage this. Why shouldn't the Government of Canada show preference for Canadian-produced material. It only makes sense.

Just my $0.02 .
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by McDonaldView Post

Of course we all consume American media, and I am not saying there is anything wrong with that whatsoever. I love American movies, shows, and music (not all of it, obviously). We are still able to watch American TV and stuff, CanCon hasn't stopped that and it wasn't meant to. It was mearly meant to assure that we have access to our own media. It's absolutely necessary that we have our own cultural industries as well, like every other country. Without CanCon protections, those industries would be quickly swallowed up. That is why I support CanCon.

Wouldn't you like to see a real film that actually takes place in your own country. I like American movies too, and Australian movies, British movies, French movies, German movies, and French-Canadian movies... but I rarely ever see a real English-Canadian film that is unabashedly Canadian. I for one would like to see more English-Canadian films representing our country abroad, but it starts at home and I would personally support any government which took steps to stimulate and encourage this. Why shouldn't the Government of Canada show preference for Canadian-produced material. It only makes sense.

Just my $0.02 .

I will agree to some extent that it is necessary. But why is it you feel it would be swallowed up? Is it that the Canadian viewing public wishes to be Americanized? Or that the American medium is more appealing?

My personal feelings on historic or documentary Canadian productions, is that they beat the American equivalent, hands down. They are more informative, more indepth, less biased and extremely candid. Where as their American counter parts are generally a tad sensatioalistic. I prefer "just the facts ma'am, just the facts", lol. Let me come to my own conclusions.

With that said, I worked with a gentleman, that produced kids TV programs for YTV. He did some work with the Canadian Armed Forces on behalf of the MoD, to produce a documentary style recruiting vignette, for schools. Under the liberal leadership of the time, he was told not to make the CAF, look like a group of "Rambo's". He was so disgusted with how they wanted to portray the Soldiers, he was almost tempted to quit production. But the mortgage was more important. Here's the money shot. When production was almost complete, the MoD told him, they were scrapping the project. But that he could keep all the footage and do with it what he wanted. They signed all the waivers and went straight to the NFB with a proposal to make it in to a documentary on our men and woman of the Armed Forces. I've seen it, it is one of the best and most candid pieces I have ever seen on the CAF. It was real, it was gritty, it showed the pains, trails and desire to serve our Nation at almost all costs. It got down to the very heart of the Soldier. As an ex Trooper, I can tell you this in all honesty, if you were ever to want to see the true essence of a contemporary Canadian Soldier, by them Navy, Air Force or Army, this would be the most accurate film to see.

Can you guess what the NFB said?

Non!

They felt that it was not worth investing in, it would not meet expectations and the Canadian people would not want to see it.

Have you seen some of the tripe they have invested in?

I would bet 60 to 70%, is pure SHYTE!!!

He took it to the CBC, to see if they would help him finish it.

Can you guess what they said?

Non!

Same reasons.

How am I supposed to beleive the NFB or organizations like the CBC are about Canadian Content, when they turned their collective noses up at a truly indepth documentary like this?
 
Curiosity
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All I ever see of Canadian "media" offerings ... are ....

The occasional classic film about Canada made in Canada such as Anne of Green Gables which is old...

The home improvement shows on HGTV....

On the down side are all the U.S. collaborative films usually made in Vancouver or Toronto (Vancouver's streets are always wet....Toronto's snowy) which is done for economic reasons of course.....

What I resent is the absolute crap of story lines, half-baked acting and standard same old same old - especially the old courthouse in Vancouver with the lions out front unless they have finally freed those
two poor jungle critters from their concrete prisons....

The made in BC Ont movies are shameful and if I were any respectable Canadian Film buffs I would complain these are not representative of the merit of Canadian Arts....

I have a composer/symphony conductor friend and have yet to see any of his concerts which are many across Canada....I have to wait until my family sends me recordings...

It's can't all be about hockey and competitive ice skating.

One poor sod from Canada entered a great clip into American's Funniest Home videos and won 10K.... he swears he would have been a bigger winner but the show didn't allow for Canadian voting .... wha????? The general public have no idea of the desperate separation of the two nations in artistic sharing....losing some hugely talented Canadians to the U.S. money market as soon as they can fly.... don't blame it all on the U.S. Canada should make an effort to compete -they have the people - but not the intent. They'd rather air week-late American shows and blame it on the U.S. corporations.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by CuriosityView Post

All I ever see of Canadian "media" offerings ... are ....

The occasional classic film about Canada made in Canada such as Anne of Green Gables which is old...

The home improvement shows on HGTV....

On the down side are all the U.S. collaborative films usually made in Vancouver or Toronto (Vancouver's streets are always wet....Toronto's snowy) which is done for economic reasons of course.....

What I resent is the absolute crap of story lines, half-baked acting and standard same old same old - especially the old courthouse in Vancouver with the lions out front unless they have finally freed those
two poor jungle critters from their concrete prisons....

The made in BC Ont movies are shameful and if I were any respectable Canadian Film buffs I would complain these are not representative of the merit of Canadian Arts....

I have a composer/symphony conductor friend and have yet to see any of his concerts which are many across Canada....I have to wait until my family sends me recordings...

It's can't all be about hockey and competitive ice skating.

One poor sod from Canada entered a great clip into American's Funniest Home videos and won 10K.... he swears he would have been a bigger winner but the show didn't allow for Canadian voting .... wha????? The general public have no idea of the desperate separation of the two nations in artistic sharing....losing some hugely talented Canadians to the U.S. money market as soon as they can fly.... don't blame it all on the U.S. Canada should make an effort to compete -they have the people - but not the intent. They'd rather air week-late American shows and blame it on the U.S. corporations.

Absolutely...

I think some of the issue here is "WHO" is filtering what sees air time? "WHAT" is their agenda? "WHERE" do their friends fit in to this? "WHEN" were they mandated to say what is truly Canadian and what Canadians want to see? "WHY" do they dismiss perfectly good programmin, for AoGG, iclk!!!?

If a foriegn observer of completely Canadian content were to have to make a conclusion of what Canada was like, they would likely be at a loss to come up with anything better then Greeb Gables or a disfuctional dry rez. The whole country must reside on the shores of the Atlantic, except those Natives, they must be a misserable bunch, having to live on that dry rez, North of 60, why are they so disfunctional?
 
Toro
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#98
I hate Molson and Labatt beer.

Its just crap.

I'll only drink it if all the cough syrup and mouthwash is gone
 
McDonald
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You cannot sum up the whole of Canadian media production by touting Anne of Green Gables (which is actually a well-loved film and book in many countries, including the US and is something to be proud of) and Hockey Night in Canada. Also, you are confusing the CRTC-regulated CanCon regulations with independant bodies such as the CBC and the National Film Board which have the right to control which projects they fund. The NFB turned down this guy's film for a reason, whatever that may be, but the NFB has higher critical acclaim as a documentary film organisation (68 Oscar nominations, 11 Oscar wins, for example) than any other, so I hope that by now they know how to pick a project. No offence intended for your friend.

The reason Canadian cultural industries like film, TV, and music would likely be swallowed up by US media is quite simple. It's a question of numbers and money. The US media cater to a 300 million strong population and have an almost limitless flow of cash. Canadian media cater to a 30 million strong population and with a very finite number of dollars. Obviously you will not see special effects-packed blockbusters being made outside of Hollywood (and if that's the kind of garbage some people are into, then they are and always have been free to consume it), which is why Canadian films who try to mimick that kind of filmmaking usually don't get far. So Canadian film often has to survive by making lower-budget indie films which despite their lower budgets are quite often critical successes. But financial successes they are usually not, even here in Canada, most particulary because wholly Canadian films are NOT ELIGIBLE for wide release even in major theatres in our own country. Which means even if it is a terrific film, you don't have the right to go downtown and watch it. You are forced to watch something else.

You say you want the right to choose, which you have... with the stipulation that you choose between Hollywood film A and Hollywood film B. I personally support CanCon laws in the other media industries because it gives me the right to choose something produced in my country which has something to do with my life by ensuring that Canadian-produced content is actually there to be chosen by those who want to watch it. I want the right to go to a major cinema in this country, be it in Toronto, Ontario or Neepawa, Manitoba, and to choose to see a film made in this country that reflects something about my life. I currently do not have that right, and neither do you.

You say America-basher, but that's completely false. This really has little to do with the country of the United States or its people, it has to do with specific industry standards within that coutnry which apply to this country as well. It is an industry fact that due to film distribution networks (based in the US) which the vast majority of all cinemas in major and smaller Canadian cities subscribe to, Canadian moviegoers haven't the option to see a Canadian film that was not created for competition in the US market. Also, Canada is the only non-US country considered to be part of the domestic market for the Hollywood film industry.

It basically comes down to two questions: Does the Canadian government have the right to control what goes on the airwaves for TV and Radio, and the right to protect and promote its own industries by at least giving Canadians the option to choose Canadian content by ensuring its existence... The answer is yes.

Lastly, does the government have that same right for the film industry? Well, I believe that it does but it just hasn't exercised that right yet. I believe it should, and that's my opinion.

But reiterating what about Canada I do not like, it's the all-too-frequent "cultural cringe" that I see in too many Canadians ho have a nationally self-demeaning aversion to things produced by their own kind. That's all.
 
McDonald
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Quote: Originally Posted by ToroView Post

I hate Molson and Labatt beer.

Its just crap.

I'll only drink it if all the cough syrup and mouthwash is gone

True, that! I like Molson Canadian all right, but all other Molson and Labatt products are piss. For the larger beer labels, I prefer Alexander Keith's.
 
Tonington
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#101
Bear, you wouldn't happen to know by chance where one might find this documentary would you? I would very much like to see this doc.

I's pretty sad isn't it. CBC can't show a documentary about Canadian soldiers, but hey lets give a chance to a new music reality show where contestants are voted off, how very original. Canada really would like a show like that......
 
Curiosity
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Quote: Originally Posted by McDonaldView Post

You cannot sum up the whole of Canadian media production by touting Anne of Green Gables (which is actually a well-loved film and book in many countries, including the US and is something to be proud of) and Hockey Night in Canada. Also, you are confusing the CRTC-regulated CanCon regulations with independant bodies such as the CBC and the National Film Board which have the right to control which projects they fund. The NFB turned down this guy's film for a reason, whatever that may be, but the NFB has higher critical acclaim as a documentary film organisation (68 Oscar nominations, 11 Oscar wins, for example) than any other, so I hope that by now they know how to pick a project. No offence intended for your friend.
McDonald - you have misread my words - I was using Anne of Green Gables as one example of fine film production. Why can't we have a Canadian Channel in our cable broadcasting here and whichever company
wants to make money from it should be able to? Canada does have import/export arrangements for a great deal of consumer product with the U.S.- why not film and programming? My friend is a music composer and conductor and has no end of engagements - only that I would love to see him performing "live" on occasion rather than on a recorded "delay" which I am still able to receive.
The reason Canadian cultural industries like film, TV, and music would likely...

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I agree with your last two paragraphs - and I am sorry it is the way things are. If you like to think of it as "protection of property" we have no basis of comparison down here except the c ** p coming from the
Grade C stuff....and it is a shame.

On the last and third paragraph I have no comment.
 
turubawebmaster
#103
one thing I dont like about canada is quebec's bitching... Ducepte can kiss my ass... The bloc is not a federal status to me, they should be provincial... And no I don't know francois or manon of abitibi temiscamagne lol... Did I say Temiscamingue lol... We call it timiskaming, Quebecers call it Timiskamang lol... i'll put some sense of humor into this
 
turubawebmaster
#104
I dont know marc lemay of abitibi temiscamagne but i know he's a bloc mp
 
RomSpaceKnight
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#105
Quote: Originally Posted by MattUKView Post

Same thing as a Post Code in the UK I think.

It's a Zip code in the states. It's a postal code here in Canada.
 
turubawebmaster
#106
i personally don't like how our government is run... I think having a minority government is a waste of time because the liberals and conservatives always force each other an election each time.... Theyre talking about a possible election this summer and I am tired of federal elections... I think right now we're good with the harper government because he dropped the gst and also talking about the change of the role of senate.... The only way i wil believe in the senate is if it gets elected.... I really hope we don't have anymore elections for the next few years... I think Harper will do better in the next few years if they get those environmental laws regulated stricter... Another thing I hate about Canada are those EI truck driver and I think trucks are beasts on the road. We should try to promote more freight by rail for environmental reasons.... I think the government is ignoring the importance of our environment. One thing that really pisses me off is the bloc quebecois being a federal party... They should only be allowed to run provincial. And why to we have to pay for useless french services just because one or 2 out of all 13 provinces want it and we're slightly under 25% francophone in Canada... I have French inside of me but I just don't think it makes sense to pay for the service just because Quebec wants it... Just because Quebec wants it doesn't mean we have to and they only represent a little under 25% of Canada's population... I don't like Quebec's bitching... I also don't like how Toronto treats us people up north like second class citizens... Northern Ontario is not a city dump and it will never be and London either doesn't want your trash!!! Toronto should just keep their own garbage instead of bugging everyone with their garbage problems.... I also dislike that the government has been too lax with immigration policies... These are all the things I dislike.... I like the fact that we are good country to live in because we have a lot of resources and we are well liked as a country and we have the greatest sport... I think we all have likes and a couple dislikes about our country.
 
ottawabill
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#107
Yep our political system is messy and no one is far sighted enough to do anything about it.

We don't and can't directly elect the Prime Minister even though he is the only memeber of the party with any real power. We are not locally represented but have a top down decree system. Th P.M. tells everyone else in the party how to vote, they all get in line (or are kicked out of the party) then the bills are forwarded on to a bunch of old men not elected and sitting for life..This is not democracy..it is elitism..The old british way...It's considered that the public doesn't know whats best for them so well oiled types will tell them...Not ask them..not form a consenous..but rather tell us.... The more they do it the more the public goes along with it....

Other issues in this country are minor to me outside of our politics.
 
turubawebmaster
#108
i think ur right about that... You know what pisses me off are always those same promises and nothign gets done except we've had idiodic gun laws and same sex mariage made for the public and the antismoking which is not much of an issue to me... They ar quite stupid thinking of small things instead of the big things like pollution and factories and transportation.... We really do need a reform to have it make more sense how our government is run... How stupid can you be if you're fcusing on antismoking laws and not the smoke stacks and the highway rigs making all the pollution
 
ottawabill
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#109
Quote: Originally Posted by turubawebmasterView Post

i think ur right about that... You know what pisses me off are always those same promises and nothign gets done except we've had idiodic gun laws and same sex mariage made for the public and the antismoking which is not much of an issue to me... They ar quite stupid thinking of small things instead of the big things like pollution and factories and transportation.... We really do need a reform to have it make more sense how our government is run... How stupid can you be if you're fcusing on antismoking laws and not the smoke stacks and the highway rigs making all the pollution

Yep...if only the general public was interested....They say they are but they are mostly bandwagon jumpers... Anti smoking sounds good, it's quick to get a result, having truck emmisions reduced by 22% in 5 years does not sound like a lot, no one can see it tomorrow and in 5 years everyone will forget you said it...

Notice how at the moment there is only one fed. government issue..every second word is green..who is greener..who really cares..who doesn't... a few years back it was medicare...and in a few more you won't hear anything about green...it's all opyics, whatever looks good right now!! The liberals don't care about the issue any more then the Conservatives do..what they all do care about is how well it plays for them on the 6:00 news....

When is the last time you've heard any vision from a political leadership? Trudeau maybe...Laurier? certainly hasn't been in a long time...Hey I not talking about leadership I agree with but just plain old visions for the country..we've turned the job into a manager's posistion
 
Curiosity
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#110
I know the topic is "Things I don't like.... "

But is anyone pleased with the way things are going or are your lives lived in the negative as they seem to be here?

With such fantastic choices of living space and freedom and plenty and people waiting in line to
join you - I though Canadians would have little to say about their dislikes....

It would seem Canada is blessed with bounty....
 
fatbasturd
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#111
Quote: Originally Posted by CuriosityView Post

I know the topic is "Things I don't like.... "

But is anyone pleased with the way things are going or are your lives lived in the negative as they seem to be here?

With such fantastic choices of living space and freedom and plenty and people waiting in line to
join you - I though Canadians would have little to say about their dislikes....

It would seem Canada is blessed with bounty....

If the goverment found out how happy I am .....they would TAX it.
Seriously ...life is fine in P.E.
 
turubawebmaster
#112
the only reason i said it was dumb to think about antismoking is because there are a lot bigger issues than that... The best thing they can do right now is try to take rigs of the roads and ship freight by rail which only uses half the consumption of fuel the amount of trucks ratio to railcars.... That rail promotion would make a hell a lot of sence... Myself as a politian I would do that and use tax money to help repair the tracks.... I would also put a fee for truck drivers on the roads and trust me there wont be thise rail/truck competition any longer..... Road infastructure is cause mostly by all those rigs on the roads.... I also look at it as a way to decrease highway traffic... Truck locally and for construction and rail for transcontinental freight.... Truckers are the most careless on the roads especially EI drivers that work for trans x.... Theres a solution to our oil demand... I would also be stricter with regulating smoke stacks... I think what we've seen in our politics havent done anything... I personally think environment is more important than tryign to bring up more health care... Whats do you think is gonna happen in the future if nothing is done? I see impact my friend... Every little thing we do will help
 
ottawabill
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#113
uummm......trains do go everywhere trucks go?? you need a truck to get the product to the rail yard then you need a truck to take the product to it's destination. There is also timing...Oranges can't wait in freight cars nor does anyone want to buy a frieght cars worth at any one time....

Other notes..... The tread was called things I don't LIKE not things I do like..thats why its on the negitive....
 
westmanguy
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#114
I don't like alot of things.

-The SYSTEM of Government
-High taxes
-Quebec - big thing for me. Leave Canada - PLEASE! Why does the gov. kiss there @$$ so much? If Canada (ALL OF US) got to vote on there separation, I would vote for them to leave. And New Brunswick while were at it.
-Natives -not the people, but them bi*ching so much..

And other things, that I can't think of right now.
 
dude1981
#115
Only real thing that bugs me about Canada is our weather
 
jimmoyer
#116
I like Canada.
 
L Gilbert
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Polarisation between people.
 
ottawabill
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#118
Quote: Originally Posted by westmanguyView Post

I don't like alot of things.

-The SYSTEM of Government
-High taxes
-Quebec - big thing for me. Leave Canada - PLEASE! Why does the gov. kiss there @$$ so much? If Canada (ALL OF US) got to vote on there separation, I would vote for them to leave. And New Brunswick while were at it.
-Natives -not the people, but them bi*ching so much..

And other things, that I can't think of right now.

The gov. kisses their behinds because it is the make or break province for the liberal party. If the liberals get their Quebec seats they form a gov. If the tories can take some seats there they form a gov. So everyone is looking for quebec votes... However the seats should be re-evaluated since Quebec is losing population (no doubt) and now Alberta and Bc are larger together then Quecbec but do not have equal seats in the house.
 
westmanguy
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#119
Yes I got a prob. with that. But Quebec would scream if they lost some seats. So we would have to add seats.

B.C. and Alberta should have their ridings re-mapped with more ridings then Quebec.

Then maybe FINALLY, the gov. will care about Alberta and B.C as MORE important then Quebec. With the amount of people fleeing to Alberta.. thats good for the Conservatives. Alberta is completely 100% blue rate now.
 
El Barto
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Quote: Originally Posted by Said1View Post

How many times do I have to say it? Ottawa is where it's at. I mean, where else can you throw rocks at Quebec?

LOL lol lol
 

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