Hello French Speaking Canadians! ;-)


Pemmican
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I need to do a presentation on languages in Europe and need help with a special phenomen:

Some Northern Germanic languages tend to drop the helping verb "have" in the perfect tense, e.g. Swedish:

"jag hört" for 'jag har hört' (=> I have heard).

As far as I know, this is also possible in English to a certain extend as people say
"I seen the movie" for I have seen the movie
"I just come home" for I have just come home

I was also told, that in (European) French, this is not possible, not even in colloquial language or slang - but I'm interested now in Canadian French: Is it possible to drop the helping verb 'avoir' or 'être' in the passé composé??
Can you say e.g.

"j'été" for j'ai été
j'eu" for j'ai eu
"j'allé" for je suis allé
"je fait" for j'ai fait
"je venu" for je suis venu etc.

(I know this isn't grammatically correct, but I'm not focussing on grammatical correctness, I just want to know if people talk like this - more or less commonly - even if it's only colloquial or slang!)

Thank you very much for your help!
Greetz from Germany
Ttys, Pemmican
 
EternalSunshine
#2
I'm pretty sure that people here don't drop the auxilliary verb in passé composé, not even in slang.

In slang, for example, je suis allée will sound a lot like "shu allée", but no, no dropping, lol.

English speaking people neither won't say "I seen a movie", not even in an informal conversation; more then a slang is a sign that it's an uneducated person speaking, or someone just learning the language.
 
sj007
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no pemmican u dont drop theauxliliairy but sometimes its said so fast that u might not notice it if ur not very good w/ the language hopes this helps
 
Pemmican
#4
Thank you very much - are you sure with the English one as well? Maybe a Texan like Bush would use it? *jk*hehe*

Anyway - this seems to become more interesting than I thought... Thanks again CU
 
Andem
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#5
EternalSunshine, I've heard many times the use of j'allé in Quebec. I moved to Toronto from Montréal in April and I've heard it used in Montréal among teens especially. Also je fait I hear used.
 
Pemmican
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Quote: Originally Posted by Andem

EternalSunshine, I've heard many times the use of j'allé in Quebec. I moved to Toronto from Montréal in April and I've heard it used in Montréal among teens especially. Also je fait I hear used.


Andem,
I'll expect you being here tomorrow for backing me up while I'll have my presentation - so come along!! *lol*
 
Andem
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#7
Well, I think lufthansa has a special on now? But you'll have to pick me up from Frankfurt am main if you want to get the deals
 
EternalSunshine
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I could very well be mistaken, I'm not a Quebecoise myself, but I'm pretty sure you don't drop the auxilliary verb. At times it may sound that way, because people tend to speak fast.

It is an interesting question though, and I will ask around (I have nieces who are teens and Quebecoises).
 
sj007
#9
bin shais rien moy mexuse si j`fai moffer ta presentation
 
EternalSunshine
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Quote: Originally Posted by Andem

EternalSunshine, I've heard many times the use of j'allé in Quebec. I moved to Toronto from Montréal in April and I've heard it used in Montréal among teens especially. Also je fait I hear used.

This could be j'allais (imperfect) and je fais (present).
 
sj007
#11
o right now lat i think of it ES is right
 
HockeyBabe
#12
interesting....
 
sj007
#13
also confusing if ur not used to it
 
Fate
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Whatever rules you know in French then forget them in Quebec. They do not follow the rules and make up thier own as they go along. Trust me, nothing is as it seems in QUEBEC
 
HockeyBabe
#15
all I know is that Québec RULES!!!
 
sj007
#16
quite right
 
Andem
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#17
Hey! You don't have any disagreements from my side. I love living in Québec
 
sj007
#18
so when u comming back then
 
HockeyBabe
#19
moi?? um...when I turn 18! but I'm going on holiday there Saturday morning!!!yeah!!!!!!!!!!!
 
sj007
#20
where r yea visiting ?
 
HockeyBabe
#21
I'm in Longueuil now...my boyfriend and I are watching our Uncle Bob's house...we do it often during the week because he's afraid that someone will break in... *shrugs* but yeah, we get the whole house to ourselves!! lol all we do is watch TV and check our e-mail and stuff on here...and we raid his kitchen for the ingredients for POUTINE!! yummy...yeah, but it can get a little boring, but we just cuddle on the couch together and watch movies and stuff...yesterday, we went ice skating...it was fun...I fell on my bum... but I'm ok...well he wants me to get off the internet now, so I'll see you all later!! buh bye!
 
sj007
#22
well enoy ur stay
 
HockeyBabe
#23
merci!!
 
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