Who is Canada's biggest corporate criminal?


JLM
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Maybe if enough posters respond we can identify all of them. I'll start the ball rolling by nominating David Hahn (head honcho B.C. Ferries)
 
TenPenny
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Biggest corporate criminal?

I would think Conrad Black would have to be right up there.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

Biggest corporate criminal?

I would think Conrad Black would have to be right up there.

I think he's busy with other things at the moment!
 
Bar Sinister
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Do we have to name a specific individual? How about any of the liars associated with the boardrooms of foreign owned oil companies.
 
Tonington
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Montreal investment adviser Earl Jones should be up there, as well as those two Albertans who swindled $100 million out of investors with their ponzi scheme.
 
TenPenny
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And let's not forget the Bre-X thing.
 
damngrumpy
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Actually this list will get shorter, Conrad Black gave up his citizenship to become a British Lord.
Therefore he is no longer a Canadian. In addition when he gets out of jail we should not let the
criminal come back into Canada.
I think the stock brokers in general should be held up to ridicule, Many of them were part of the
financial crisis that nearly broke this country. No they don't have a criminal record but they should.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Bar SinisterView Post

Do we have to name a specific individual? How about any of the liars associated with the boardrooms of foreign owned oil companies.

Nope- but they squirm a little more when specifically named rather than lumped in with rest of the rebrobates, because each individual reprobate thinks it's the rest who are guilty. I suppose most politicians could be labeled "corporate criminals" as no doubt many of them launder the proceeds of the trough somewhere.

Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

And let's not forget the Bre-X thing.

Did that guy ever go to jail, can't recall his name offhand. Come to think of it didn't he suffer a fatal accident?
 
TenPenny
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Did that guy ever go to jail, can't recall his name offhand. Come to think of it didn't he suffer a fatal accident?

One of them 'fell' out of a helicopter.
 
taxslave
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Revenue Canada
 
cranky
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Honor role mention: David Suzuki.

Do you realize that the University of Calgary has developed a mobile CO2 scrubber? People like David Suzuki scoffed at it, for they don't like cars and industry, even if they could exist with CO2 scrubbing technology. For them,its not about cleaner air, its about control and restricting activities of consumers and corporations in Canada.
 
mentalfloss
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Harper?
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by crankyView Post

Honor role mention: David Suzuki.

Do you realize that the University of Calgary has developed a mobile CO2 scrubber? People like David Suzuki scoffed at it, for they don't like cars and industry, even if they could exist with CO2 scrubbing technology. For them,its not about cleaner air, its about control and restricting activities of consumers and corporations in Canada.

SOme how Suzuki does not mind taking a taxpayer subsidized carbon fuel burning ferry to his resort on Quadra Island. Or perhaps he just flies in a chartered chopper.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Revenue Canada

Yeah, but it's one culprit that has been getting rehabillitated since Harper became P.M.
 
cranky
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

SOme how Suzuki does not mind taking a taxpayer subsidized carbon fuel burning ferry to his resort on Quadra Island. Or perhaps he just flies in a chartered chopper.

A while back, he did a cross Canada trip..........wait for it..................not by small car, or not by a passenger filled airplane..............he took a big diesel powered chartered bus.

If memory serves me correctly, it was to talk about the evils of pollution.
 
petros
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wait for it..................It was bio-diesel bus.

I'm shocked none of you have come close to the biggest.
 
Mowich
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Did that guy ever go to jail, can't recall his name offhand. Come to think of it didn't he suffer a fatal accident?

David Walsh was the CEO of Bre-X and Michael de Guzman was the geologist who supposedly fell out of the helicopter. I say supposedly as rumors still abound that it was not de Guzman who 'fell' out of the chopper. Walsh fled to the Bahamas where he eventually died of an aneurysm. John Felderhof, another company geologist was the only person to face charges but was acquitted.

Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Harper?

I thought the topic was addressing corporate criminals............just had to get a bash in didn't you mentalfloss - sheesh!
 
petros
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WHITE-COLLAR AND CORPORATE CRIME OVERLOOKEDNon-violent crimes committed by white-collar workers and corporations are being overlooked due to a "public and political preoccupation with violent offences," says a leading corporate fraud investigator.

Justice Minister Allan Rock's crime-prevention strategy has focused primarily on violent crime. But Don Holmes, a fraud investigator with Ernst & Young, believes that the "social ramifications" of white-collar crime may in fact be more serious. The initial responsibility of investigating white-collar crimes such as employee theft and fraud falls on forensic accountants like Holmes.
Aaron Freeman and Craig Forcese, founding directors of the Ottawa-based Democracy Watch, argue that the "war on crime" largely ignores not only such white-collar employee crime, but also violations committed by corporations. These include tax evasion, bribery, fraudulent advertising, illegal mergers, and monopoly pricing.
While individual cases are reported, the media rarely convey the scope of corporate and white collar crime. The impact of such crimes is illustrated by the following:
Federal statistics show an annual increase of seven per cent in the incidence of white-collar crimes.
A Statistics Canada report in the early 1980s found the number of workplace deaths attributed to unsafe or illegal working conditions to be equivalent to the number of street homicides. This does not include "lingering deaths" resulting from exposure to "hazardous workplace pollutants".
According to Holmes, Canadians pay increased taxes and prices for consumer goods amounting to as much as $20 billion a year as a result of white-collar crime. American statistics show that white-collar and corporate crime accounts for $10 for every one dollar lost to robbery, burglary, larceny and auto theft combined. If this 10 to 1 ratio applies to Canada, Freeman and Forcese estimate that corporate crime costs Canadians about $30 billion a year.
While over one-million charges were laid against street criminals in 1988, only 23 were laid against corporations in the first two years of the 1986 Competition Act.
According to Holmes, the lenient treatment of non-violent crime has led to the growth of a "get-something-for-nothing attitude." Similarly, many corporations view the penalties for corporate crime as a ̉mere cost of doing business." Freeman and Forcese claim Exxon spent less money cleaning up the Valdez oil spill than it spent on positive publicity of its efforts.
Through stronger legislation, enforcement and penalties for white collar and corporate crime, argue Freeman and Forcese, the government could "begin to correct the biases of our two-tiered system of justice."SOURCES
Author: Doug Fischer
Title: 'Investigator fears fraud cases ignored'
The Calgary Herald
Date: 9 July 1994
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Authors: Aaron Freeman, Craig Forcese
Title: 'Get tough on corporate crime'
The Toronto Star
Date: 17 Nov 1994
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by MowichView Post

I thought the topic was addressing corporate criminals.

Yes? And?

Isn't Harper is the biggest corporate shill of them all?
 
DurkaDurka
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Yes? And?

Isn't Harper is the biggest corporate shill of them all?

Well, between him and Paul Martin perhaps.
 
Mowich
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Yes? And?

Isn't Harper is the biggest corporate shill of them all?

Shilling as you say is hardly criminal and he does so in the interests of Canada.
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by MowichView Post

Shilling as you say is hardly criminal and he does so in the interests of Canada.

I would question that. I think he is just looking out for the corporate interests who paid to get him in office just like any other politician.

"A man with a briefcase
can steal more money
than any man with a gun" - Don Henley
 
Mowich
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Maybe if enough posters respond we can identify all of them. I'll start the ball rolling by nominating David Hahn (head honcho B.C. Ferries)

More fodder for your topic, JLM.

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"For example, in (fiscal year) 2010, BC Hydro's CEO Bob Elton made $749,213 in total salary and bonuses, Pavco CEO Warren Buckley made $560,307, ICBC CEO Jon Schubert made $507,306 and BCSC CEO Brenda Leong made $499,251.

These are just a few examples but there are about 30 crown corporations in B.C. They employ about 22,000 people and if we add up all the wages paid to bureaucrats we get an idea of how much of a burden these Crown Corporations create. In B.C., the wage burden went up from about $650 million to about $1 billion between 1990 and 1997, then stayed fairly steady until 2008, when it took off to $1.6 billion. "
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by MowichView Post

Shilling as you say is hardly criminal and he does so in the interests of Canada.

Really?

Like shilling for big oil is helping Canadians at the gas pump?
Gas prices have never been higher in this conservative, free market.

Like shilling for big telcos is helping Canadians on the internet?
They're actually on board with Bell's UBB, even though they preach anti-competitive measures.

Like shilling for all corporations with tax cuts is helping consumers at the transaction counter?
With our 'strong' economy and dollar, prices are going up.

Oh, I forgot, we get some tax breaks that save us pennies while we're spending dollars.
Last edited by mentalfloss; Jul 13th, 2011 at 03:41 PM..
 
Tonington
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Being a CEO doesn't make one a corporate criminal...
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

Being a CEO doesn't make one a corporate criminal...

I know you're just playing here, but I should clarify that I'm not quite using the term 'criminal' in the literal sense. Conrad Black should be a bonafide criminal by comparison.
 
Tonington
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

I know you're just playing here, but I should clarify that I'm not quite using the term 'criminal' in the literal sense. Conrad Black should be a bonafide criminal by comparison.

I wasn't referring to you specifically, there's quite a few posts in this thread that are just nonsense.
 
cranky
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

wait for it..................It was bio-diesel bus.

I'm shocked none of you have come close to the biggest.

At the time, there were hundreds of posts made by about a dozen members, not one of them found any evidence of this. In fact, it wasn't even suggested. Are you making this up?
 
karrie
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Quote: Originally Posted by crankyView Post

At the time, there were hundreds of posts made by about a dozen members, not one of them found any evidence of this. In fact, it wasn't even suggested. Are you making this up?

When was this?
 
cranky
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Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

When was this?

When it happened.I think it was 2 elections ago......no wait.........3? elections.
 

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