And as for homosexuality, i actually liked a suggestion made by ron Paul: The state woudl no longer recognize marriage, thus making it completely outside the realm of politics. Seeing that there are currently so many laws relating to marriage, it woudl mean an overhaul of the legal ssytem, but would be possible over a period of time, along with certain disadvantages too. For instance, since the law would no longer recognize marriage, it could no longer recognize adultery too, making it difficult in divorce cases, etc.
I'm not totally fond of Ron Paul's position, but it is worth considering at least, though I do see many problems with it too.
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Do you know what accredited means? If they want to deviate from the Provincial curriculm they get **** all if they stick to it they get funded.
Look it up for **** sakes.
Even if a Jewish school followed the provincial curriculum, it still gets no funding, whereas a catholic school would.
[QUOTE=captain morgan;1448686]Disguise it any way you see fit, but you are squarely against the separate system based on the notion that it is Catholic... I don't hear you bitching about the Jewish schools or the french immersion schools outside Quebec.
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1. Catholic schools in Ontario can get funding, Jewish schools can't. I would be bitching if Jewish schools got the funding and Catholic schools didn't. But that's not the case.
Quote: On that note, what in the hell does the Monarch's practices in the UK have to do with education in Canada?[
They're both part of the same constitution.
I suppose that it never occurred to you that maybe there are some Catholics that attend those schools?
Sure there are Catholics attending public catholic schools, but there are no Jews attending public Jewish schools in Ontario because those schools can't exist.
Quote: Give your head a shake. No one is stopping any religious or cultural organization from operating their own schools.. You're pissed because the separate system has been around so long (ever wonder why by the way?) and are representing their constituents and functioning quite well within the specified confines of gvt... How in the hell is that not equal?
Sure any religious community can set up such a school. The difference is, the catholic school might be able to get public funding in Ontario, whereas the others can't because the BNA Act doesn't recognize it. And if it's worked so well, why is it that at least one Jewish father had made a formal complaint to the UN high Commission for Human Rights, and it agreed with him? He argued that he'd paid much money to send his child to a private Jewish school, but had he been Catholic, he could have saved money sending him to a public Catholic school. If it works so great, why are Jews bringing forward formal complaints against it, and why is the UNHCHR agreeing with them?
Quote: What part of any organization can get public funding confuses you Machjo?
Wrong, according to the BNA Act, Catholic schools can. There is no such guarantee for other schools. So no, not all schools are equally guaranteed funding.
Quote: AB has tons of schools that receive public funding; charters and french immersion come to mind... Does those somehow NOT qualify as equal?
Now the BNA Act does not prohibit funding for other religious schools but does not guarantee it too. Alberta at least had the magnanimity to recognize the injustice and so provide funding for all religious schools equally possibly. That is not the case in Ontario where only Catholic schools get that funding and not other religious schools. Since the Constitution guarantees it for Catholic schools only, it therefore allows governments, shoudl they wish to do so, to discriminate in favour of Catholic schools as Ontario does.
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganAdd to that the current 'Public' system was itself denominational at the time. That said, the today's public system was spawned from a theological base at it's inception.
What people (read: Machjo) purposely omits from his diatribe is that all of the schools (way back in the day) were community-based, funded and housed, more often than not by the local churches... Just because we live in a society that is captained by political correctness doesn't mean that historical realities don't count any longer.
Add to this that no group; be they religious, cultural, etc - are not banned from opening and operating their own schools. Provided that they fall under the academic guidlines of the province, they can accommodate any demographic they desire and receive a per student allocation towards funding... Just like the separate system.
Well then let's go back to letting people give to the school of their choice and cut all public funding,. I'd be all for that. What we're talking about ehre though is not jsut church funding, but a constitutional guarantee of government funding for one denomination and not another.
