
Hard core drinkers will do anything they want for a while,
but what goes round comes round, and he/she will end up
in jail more than out, especially under new law.
Don't people realize how dangerous to our society, drinking
and driving is, and if this new law decreases the problem,
that is good, money grab or no.

What kind of message do lawmakers send when they up fines for alcohol offences yet extend the Liquor Store hours and issue ever increasing numbers of liquor licences?

We don't have to learn how to behave from lawmakers, they
don't care much about us, WE have to care about us.
For the lawmakers it's all about profit, for us it's all
about our life and limb, children, pedestrians, etc.,
and zero tolerance for drinking drivers, just talk to all
of the families without family members who have been killed,
either by their own hand, by drinking and driving, or by
a drunk driver, or have killed their own when they were
drinking and driving.
How the hell would raising the age of driving or drinking
change much of anything, most of the offenders are over
20, much over.
It's a human situation, whatever works is fine with me.

We don't have to learn how to behave from lawmakers, they
don't care much about us, WE have to care about us.
For the lawmakers it's all about profit, for us it's all
about our life and limb, children, pedestrians, etc.,
and zero tolerance for drinking drivers, just talk to all
of the families without family members who have been killed,
either by their own hand, by drinking and driving, or by
a drunk driver, or have killed their own when they were
drinking and driving.
How the hell would raising the age of driving or drinking
change much of anything, most of the offenders are over
20, much over.
It's a human situation, whatever works is fine with me.

According to a guy on radio who's promoting these changes, he said about 30-something percent of drunk driving deaths are caused by teenagers. So taking them off the road is absolutely the best way to reduce deaths. Plus, it promotes mass transit which the government goes on and on about. However, that doesn't make them money so it's off the table.
The gov isn't serious about reducing deaths. This won't. They want money and will use slight-of-hand tricks to get it. There will be plenty more of these disguised taxcollecting tricks to come in the future.

Toronto has a big problem with that. The TTC advertises it self as the same way home but the last northbound train leaves at 2am, right when the bars close.

There is a much better way than that to prevent death- quit building cars. Why should a law abiding 18 year old be deprived of the privilege of driving. Public transit works in very few cases, just in big cities for some people. How does it work for say an electrician or a roofer who has to pack his tools right to the work site? I don't think most busses will allow you on with a ladder strapped to your back.

What ticks me off is if I have a few brew in the afternoon and then want to go fishing in the evening, I can get nailed and lose my drivers licence even if I row my motorboat out to a good spot near my dock. I don't think that is fair, especially considering when a drunk with no licence is fishing from his boat he isn't penalized as severely.

When I was young I drove in an alcoholic stupor from Wawa, Ont. to Sault Ste. Marie, during night, and when the rising sun in my eye woke me, and I could not remember an inch of the 200+ miles I drove, I had an Epiphany.
After that episode, I NEVER drove after I drank even one beer, ever again.

Do you still want to curtail the ones who do? I'd say most 18 year girls do drive responsibly. That opens the door to discrimination based on gender. The proper solution is to deal with the ones who act irresponsibly and leave the rest alone. An analogy would be that most machete killings are done by East Indians, so we just prohibit East Indians from owning machetes.

I have mixed feelings on this. Having cleaned up the aftermath of several drunk drivers I am all for getting them off the road, but the conics just drive without a license. The new rules are definitely a tax measure not a punishment since you do not get to see a judge until months after your suspension. The vehicle will be impounded regardless of who the registered owner is, even rentals which could push the bill up into the ten grand range all without benefit of a trial. Where we Kind of like expropriating property they think was proceeds of crime. Looks more like a gift to trial lawyers. Overall it will just make cops into tax collectors instead of going out and catching real criminals.
In many parts of B.C. there is no public transit, including taxis so getting a ride could be hard.live the local watering hole is about 5k one way and the nearest taxi is about 15 the other way so don't expect prompt service.
Perhaps when they see how much revenue is lost due to lower booze sales the law will be changed.

Yes, if the goal is to save lives.
The cops will have the power roadside to ruin a person's life, even if below the existing legal limit and not proven in a court of law. I would like to curtail unethical legislation. If they want to save lives lets save them, but this is just a tax grab.

drunks are not going to remember the bus times, or even
bother to take a bus after he/she has had too many, they
will just get in their car, act like a blithering idiot,
think they are most efficient, not think at all, try to
find the ignition with key, somewhow remember where gas
pedal is, and drive off with a brain that is mush, and
immediately put many people in vicinity in danger.
Increasing public transic will help many, but not the
idiots who will drive anyway. The restriction put on
teenagers in recent years are very good, and will continue
to improve if needed. My grandkids are in the process of
learning to drive and I am watching what they have to go
through before they have a 'free' licence, so those who
abuse those laws will be punished.
It is also very very expensive to licence a teenage boy,
and parents foot that bill (usually), and it is their
responsibility as well to monitor their kids.
Much much better than when I was a teenager driving, many
drunk driving incidents back then, no seat belts, and many
fewer laws to protect others.
I don't agree with a law to prohibit teenagers from getting
licences, as you would punish all the good teenagers, as
it is the irresponsible males who would ruin it for everyone
else. Many teenagers need to get to work after school,
and have many responsibilities in life, and are mature and
responsible.

I have mixed feelings on this. Having cleaned up the aftermath of several drunk drivers I am all for getting them off the road, but the conics just drive without a license. The new rules are definitely a tax measure not a punishment since you do not get to see a judge until months after your suspension. The vehicle will be impounded regardless of who the registered owner is, even rentals which could push the bill up into the ten grand range all without benefit of a trial. Where we Kind of like expropriating property they think was proceeds of crime. Looks more like a gift to trial lawyers. Overall it will just make cops into tax collectors instead of going out and catching real criminals.
In many parts of B.C. there is no public transit, including taxis so getting a ride could be hard.live the local watering hole is about 5k one way and the nearest taxi is about 15 the other way so don't expect prompt service.
Perhaps when they see how much revenue is lost due to lower booze sales the law will be changed.