Bring back Bill Vanderzalm

Kreskin
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I've always liked him and really like his leadership in the HST fight. He knows his stuff.

It's too bad his term in office was during BC's naive love affair with unions. He would've made a great Premiere in this time.

I honestly hope the guy runs for Prime Minister. If he didn't win he'd sure kick some political ass along the way.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

I've always liked him and really like his leadership in the HST fight. He knows his stuff.

It's too bad his term in office was during BC's naive love affair with unions. He would've made a great Premiere in this time.

I honestly hope the guy runs for Prime Minister. If he didn't win he'd sure kick some political ass along the way.

Yep, there's a lot that's good about Vanderzalm. I had the pleasure of meeting him personally in 1988 and definitely liked the man. Bill is the kind of guy who will take the time to talk to the common man, no matter who you are. There is nothing phony about Bill. I don't think he has what it takes for politics though and being religious as he is, he can't keep it out of the politics.
 
taxslave
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This the same Billy Vanderscam that pays dirt pimps with bags of cash? And caused the demise of the Social Credit party.
Anyone that is against the HST does not really understand government revenue and spending.If you eat at Rotten Ronnies or can afford to pay four dollars for a cup of poor coffee at Starbucks you should be contributing a few pennies to health care.
 
Kreskin
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Give all your money to the government if you wish.
 
AnnaG
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Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

I've always liked him and really like his leadership in the HST fight. He knows his stuff.

It's too bad his term in office was during BC's naive love affair with unions. He would've made a great Premiere in this time.

I honestly hope the guy runs for Prime Minister. If he didn't win he'd sure kick some political ass along the way.

Too old.

Wilhelmus Nicholaas Theodore Marie "Bill" Vander Zalm (born May 29, 1934): that makes him about 76. According to the statistical average, he's got one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaGView Post

Too old.

Wilhelmus Nicholaas Theodore Marie "Bill" Vander Zalm (born May 29, 1934): that makes him about 76. According to the statistical average, he's got one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.

I was a political cartoonist during Bill's reign of silliness. He was constant fodder for my pen. I hated to see him go. He had colour, panache and two feet in his mouth at any given moment - a political cartoonist dream politician.
 
AnnaG
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Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

I was a political cartoonist during Bill's reign of silliness. He was constant fodder for my pen. I hated to see him go. He had colour, panache and two feet in his mouth at any given moment - a political cartoonist dream politician.

I never thought he was anything special. Poli-cartoonists lampoon the politician du jour whoever it is.
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaGView Post

I never thought he was anything special. Poli-cartoonists lampoon the politician du jour whoever it is.

Yup! But the recent crop of politicians are like Sear's catalogue drop outs: no character, no fun to draw. Mulroney, Levesque and Trudeau were great. Harpo is so bland it is almost impossible to do a caricature. Iggy shows possibilities. Too bad he probably hasn't got a chance.
 
AnnaG
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Really? I thought these were pretty good:









 
AnnaG
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lol I like this one of our current Preemier:

 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaGView Post

Too old.

Wilhelmus Nicholaas Theodore Marie "Bill" Vander Zalm (born May 29, 1934): that makes him about 76. According to the statistical average, he's got one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.

I wouldn't bet on it, Anna. He's a tough old bugger with 15 good years left in him yet I bet. He didn't grow up on the couch sucking slurpees and playing video games.
 
Curiosity
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WOW Kreskin

Thanks for that "blast from the past".... my dad would get all red when VanderZalm's name ever came up in our house haha...I'd have to leave because I'd start laughing and making it worse...He made the California politicians all seem
like sissies to me...
 
AnnaG
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

I wouldn't bet on it, Anna. He's a tough old bugger with 15 good years left in him yet I bet. He didn't grow up on the couch sucking slurpees and playing video games.

I wouldn't bet on anyone's demise; bad taste and all that, you know, but that's what the stats show. According to StatsCan, males are living to an average of 78.3 years.
 
SirJosephPorter
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Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

I've always liked him and really like his leadership in the HST fight. He knows his stuff.

It's too bad his term in office was during BC's naive love affair with unions. He would've made a great Premiere in this time.

I honestly hope the guy runs for Prime Minister. If he didn't win he'd sure kick some political ass along the way.

I remember Vanderzalm achieved nationwide notoriety during the abortion debate. Supreme Court had just struck down Canada’s abortion law, prolife forces were in disarray, were dispirited. There was no prospect of another law being passed. Mulroney tried, but after a very bitter and contentious debate, it was defeated in the Senate, on a tie vote.

Anyway, there were several prolife Premiers around, I think Devine in Saskatchewan was one. Vanderzalm was another. Devine kept a low profile, he didn’t want to touch the issue, he knew it was a lost cause.

Not so Vanderzalm. While other prolifers saw uncrossable obstacles, Vanderzalm saw an opportunity. He twisted the Supreme court decision around, went through many convolutions, and actually came to the conclusion that Supreme Court had given him permission to ban all abortions.

Which he promptly proceeded to do. He banned all abortions in BC and thereby became the laughing stock of Canada. In due time of course courts overruled him, the whole exercise was ridiculous (and ludicrous). But it was great comedy, and it established his reputation as a clown, as a buffoon.

Evidently BC residents didn’t think much of him either, since he was forced to resign.
 
SirJosephPorter
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Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

I was a political cartoonist during Bill's reign of silliness. He was constant fodder for my pen. I hated to see him go. He had colour, panache and two feet in his mouth at any given moment - a political cartoonist dream politician.

Quite so, Cliffy. I remember he was butt of many jokes in the national newspapers after he banned all abortions. He was a great comic though, I don't know why he didn't take up a career as a comedian (or perhaps a clown) after he was forced to resign in disgrace.
 
Kreskin
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SJR, those were different times. And frankly, the abortion issue is a red herring. The politicians aren't going to be overruling the supreme court anytime soon. As for the rest of the issues, if you listen to him today he's the only guy who makes sense. And he isn't taking any prisoners on the HST. Masterful work.

Curio, Bill's making the Tea Party look like sissies lol. He's on a mission!
 
SirJosephPorter
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Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

SJR, those were different times. And frankly, the abortion issue is a red herring. The politicians aren't going to be overruling the supreme court anytime soon. As for the rest of the issues, if you listen to him today he's the only guy who makes sense. And he isn't taking any prisoners on the HST. Masterful work.

Curio, Bill's making the Tea Party look like sissies lol. He's on a mission!

Oh, I know that, Kreskin. But that is my only knowledge of Vanderzalm. That and the fact that he had to resign in disgrace. Normally I don't follow BC politics, but Vanderzalm thrust himself into national spotlight by his nutty ban on abortion.
 
Kreskin
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Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorterView Post

Oh, I know that, Kreskin. But that is my only knowledge of Vanderzalm. That and the fact that he had to resign in disgrace. Normally I don't follow BC politics, but Vanderzalm thrust himself into national spotlight by his nutty ban on abortion.

Every BC politician resigns in disgrace. What he did is peanuts to what happens these days.
 
VanIsle
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Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

SJR, those were different times. And frankly, the abortion issue is a red herring. The politicians aren't going to be overruling the supreme court anytime soon. As for the rest of the issues, if you listen to him today he's the only guy who makes sense. And he isn't taking any prisoners on the HST. Masterful work.

Curio, Bill's making the Tea Party look like sissies lol. He's on a mission!

He's on a mission I hope he wins. To anyone on here from my town - you can vote the official vote against the GST tomorrow and Tuesday at the Woodgrove Mall.
 
VanIsle
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Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorterView Post

Oh, I know that, Kreskin. But that is my only knowledge of Vanderzalm. That and the fact that he had to resign in disgrace. Normally I don't follow BC politics, but Vanderzalm thrust himself into national spotlight by his nutty ban on abortion.

The odd thing about Bill Vanderzalm SJP is that regardless of how things were, people still like him. He's just an ambitious energetic guy that makes sense when he talks and ya just can't not like him.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaGView Post

I wouldn't bet on anyone's demise; bad taste and all that, you know, but that's what the stats show. According to StatsCan, males are living to an average of 78.3 years.

yep, that's taking the whole population into account. Once you've made 75 years on average you've probably still got 10 or 12 left and since Bill has lived a pretty clean life I'll give him 15. I'm going to see If I can Google that stat.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by VanIsleView Post

The odd thing about Bill Vanderzalm SJP is that regardless of how things were, people still like him. He's just an ambitious energetic guy that makes sense when he talks and ya just can't not like him.

You're right VanIsle, Bill was always a good sensible man and a damn hard worker- he just had a couple of habits that annoyed some people............his religion,............propensity to shoot from the lip....................and mixing up Fantasy Gardens with politics. I'll never forget the day he told the welfare recipients he was going to give them a shovel..............as it was during the hippy era some didn't appreciate him for that. I've met people who knew Bill when he didn't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out, but they admired him because he worked like a dog & no job was too menial for him.
 
JLM
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There you go Anna.
 
jwmcq625
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For a political cartoonist Gordon Campbell with his lies and mental illness, he should also be a cartoonist's dream come true, particularly with respect to his narcissism. Narcissism is alive and well in the Premier's residence in Victoria. Instead of being Premier, he should be committed.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by jwmcq625View Post

For a political cartoonist Gordon Campbell with his lies and mental illness, he should also be a cartoonist's dream come true, particularly with respect to his narcissism. Narcissism is alive and well in the Premier's residence in Victoria. Instead of being Premier, he should be committed.

I don't see anything particularly funny about Big Gord.
 
Kreskin
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What Vanderzalm is trying to do is organize what`s called an ìnitiative`. Basically it`s a petition that needs to be signed by 10% of the registered voters in every Provincial constituency. He says that is well under way and expects it to happen. Then, the initiative is delivered to BC Parliament and it requires the government to call a referendum.

The government doesn`t have to act on a referendum, but there would be some serious political baggage if a) the initiative is successful, b) a referendum votes to rescind the HST, and c) the liberals ignore the wishes of the people.

There is also the question of by then it being in the hands of the feds. I didn`t catch the gist of the explanation but he said it falls under the èxcise tax act and that there were avenues within it to keep up a stink.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

What Vanderzalm is trying to do is organize what`s called an ìnitiative`. Basically it`s a petition that needs to be signed by 10% of the registered voters in every Provincial constituency. He says that is well under way and expects it to happen. Then, the initiative is delivered to BC Parliament and it requires the government to call a referendum.

The government doesn`t have to act on a referendum, but there would be some serious political baggage if a) the initiative is successful, b) a referendum votes to rescind the HST, and c) the liberals ignore the wishes of the people.

There is also the question of by then it being in the hands of the feds. I didn`t catch the gist of the explanation but he said it falls under the èxcise tax act and that there were avenues within it to keep up a stink.

I hope he succeeds- today I read a partial explanation of how the H.S.T. will apply to real estate sales................absolute jibberish and mind boggling. When something is that mind boggling you just know you are going to get screeeeeeeeeeeeewed..
 
Kreskin
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It is insane JLM.
 
Cliffy
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But... but... we need to pay for the Olympics. He has cut government services to the bone already, so more taxes is the obvious next step.

Hang 'im by the balls, I say!
 
Curiosity
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Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

SJR, those were different times. And frankly, the abortion issue is a red herring. The politicians aren't going to be overruling the supreme court anytime soon. As for the rest of the issues, if you listen to him today he's the only guy who makes sense. And he isn't taking any prisoners on the HST. Masterful work.

Curio, Bill's making the Tea Party look like sissies lol. He's on a mission!

LOL Kreskin

My nooz from home often has what VanderZalm is up to - and I think it's great because when people really get emotional over a candidate it keeps them tuned into current affairs rather than becoming apathetic and not bothering to vote.

Ha - the Tea Parties are a hoot too - they have generated interest in people who would never have bothered because it wasn't worth the effort. Apparently the
conflicts going on down here have perked up the interest in what's happening .... which is a good thing. I also view the cross-party trend as healthy too where people are not necessarily voting for the party as a whole entity.
 

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