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July 18th, 2007, 10:00 AM

Quoting Pangloss
Not to be picky folks but it's the DOWNTOWN EASTSIDE.

Also, while a simple, stupid idea like "bulldozing the area" might appeal to those who have never known the joy of sleeping on a sidewalk, could anyone here please tell me where the poor folk who live in these low-income hotel/apartments will live after you raze their neighbourhood?
They should crawl into a hole and die because they do not fit mainstream society of course .
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July 18th, 2007, 01:15 PM

Quoting karrie
Does that distinction really matter?
The point was made that the Vancouver east end was the cause of pickton doing what he did,
and pickton was the cause of doing what he did.

The Vancouver east end has problems and should be improved, but what he did is 100% his fault,
not the fault of any 'area', and the two points should be kept separate, as it seems to soften what
he did, and partially blame the area for letting it happen. No so.
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July 18th, 2007, 01:17 PM

Quoting tamarin
I've never been west of Ontario. I will some day. Maybe. Never felt the draw. But I have heard of its sin capitals. Vancouver and Winnipeg have been in the news since - as some hippie chick once chirped -"forever!" I love small town Ontario. There are problems there but nothing blatant and numbing as found out west.

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July 18th, 2007, 01:24 PM

Quoting talloola
The point was made that the Vancouver east end was the cause of pickton doing what he did,
and pickton was the cause of doing what he did.

The Vancouver east end has problems and should be improved, but what he did is 100% his fault,
not the fault of any 'area', and the two points should be kept separate, as it seems to soften what
he did, and partially blame the area for letting it happen. No so.
Of course it partially blames the area for letting it happen. Of course it does. Pickton could never have walked into, let's say Bezanson Alberta, and preyed on women for the better part of ten years, before someone saw what was happening, saw him, saw the women in question, and put it all together. Of course the city is partly to blame for turning a blind eye and not watching its citizens as closely as any other town would. It's not unique to Van, but it IS unique to large cities. He couldn't have pulled off such a long killing spree without the indifference of a populace.
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July 18th, 2007, 01:29 PM

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Totally agree that if these women had been Sunday School teachers or members of the local women's university club, more would have been done sooner.
One mustn't forget the transient nature of drug addicted prostitutes. Some will have moved to other cities. At least that is the view of the police force who sees many prostitues being run from one city to another by pimps who keep them moving.
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July 18th, 2007, 04:17 PM

Quoting karrie
Of course it partially blames the area for letting it happen. Of course it does. Pickton could never have walked into, let's say Bezanson Alberta, and preyed on women for the better part of ten years, before someone saw what was happening, saw him, saw the women in question, and put it all together. Of course the city is partly to blame for turning a blind eye and not watching its citizens as closely as any other town would. It's not unique to Van, but it IS unique to large cities. He couldn't have pulled off such a long killing spree without the indifference of a populace.
I'll just repeat my thoughts, Pickton would have found his victims 'wherever' he could have, he is a
very deranged killer. Those people find their prey.

Ted Bundy, The Green River killer, all totally responsible for their crimes, not the areas they
came to, to collect their women.

Vancouver will take the rap for him because it happened there. Prostitutes will be in other areas, if they can't be there, he would have found them anywhere he wanted to.

Yes, they should clean up.
Keep the incidents separate, because they are.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one, now, on to other things.
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