Canadian Idol Fans Watching American Idol (Canadian Idol Fans Watching)


ross 1
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American Idol starts in three weeks. I've been a fan of Canadian Idol for a while, but since the show will be off the air for the 2009 season (and maybe indefinitely), I'm going to try watching AI, which I've never really watched much before. I think it'll be interesting to compare the two shows and to look at AI from the point of view of a CI viewer.
 
Liberalman
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You will see a vast difference between Canadian Idol and American Idol.

Canadian Idol judges donít have any idea of what good is.

Most Canadian Idol winners need more singing lessons

CTV decided to shelve Canadian Idol for 2009 because of diminishing advertising revenue but they still paid the royalties to hang on to the show so it will be back in 2010.

If CTV is smart they should get rid of the judges and get ones that know what good is.
 
ross 1
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There's going to be an additional judge on AI this year. Don't know if they got this idea from CI but I wouldn't be surprised, as CI was the first show to allow contestants to play intruments and AI has followed suit, I believe.
 
ross 1
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Short introductory video of Kara DioGuardi, the new AI judge.
 
JBeee
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Why don`t you get a life, and enjoy it?
 
ross 1
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Since you've made 601 posts on this forum, maybe you're the one who needs to get a life.
 
SleepinIn
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There were a few I liked so far. I can't really remember any names - it's too early for me just yet. I had a laugh at Jason Castro's brother though.. he was good. And not lacking in confidence at all. Which is something you need in the music business. I hope he makes it past Hollywood. I missed the intruments though. Did they have them on AI last year during the audition rounds? I can't remember.
 
ross 1
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Quote: Originally Posted by SleepinInView Post

There were a few I liked so far. I can't really remember any names - it's too early for me just yet. I had a laugh at Jason Castro's brother though.. he was good. And not lacking in confidence at all. Which is something you need in the music business. I hope he makes it past Hollywood. I missed the intruments though. Did they have them on AI last year during the audition rounds? I can't remember.

Hi, SleepinIn! It's tough for me to process two two-hour shows' worth of auditions, I don't remember any names, either. Of those two guys who were best friends, the second one who auditioned (the one who unfortunately lost his wife recently) had a voice and style I liked. Also the blind (?) auditioner near the end. And I really liked Castro's brother's voice--though I thought it was hilarious when he (w/ pink hair, etc.) said Jason was "girly." He has confidence to spare--bordering on arrogance?--but he's right for TV and I would be surprised if he didn't go pretty far. Several girls were good, too, but I can't remember anyone else in detail at this point. Dark-haired 16 year old girl on the first night stood out for me.

I didn't even miss the instruments until you mentioned them! Good point.

I'm used to a fourth judge, from watching CI, but I wonder how AI fans are liking Kara. I didn't understand one thing: how many votes does it take to get the ticket? On CI, it seems I remember Jacob only getting two votes (Sass and Farley) and going through--is it two or three (out of four) on AI?
 
In Between Man
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Quote: Originally Posted by ross 1View Post

American Idol starts in three weeks. I've been a fan of Canadian Idol for a while, but since the show will be off the air for the 2009 season (and maybe indefinitely), I'm going to try watching AI, which I've never really watched much before. I think it'll be interesting to compare the two shows and to look at AI from the point of view of a CI viewer.

AI's first two episodes this season were nothing more than pure magic! Absolute genius how those guys edit the content!

Best season opener ever, by any show, on any channel, ever done throughout history! I was laffing my *** off! Not to mention totally intrigued looking and listening to random people. Wow. People certainly are weird, and are most definitely trapped in their own little worlds. At least the contestants they show -- what freaks. But then there are the good ones, the ones you take a shining to, and decide to root for. Bring a tear to me eye.
 
ross 1
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AI got high ratings for its first two episodes.
Here's an article about it, and a couple of related things...

American Idol Grows On People
Meet the Real American Idol Bikini Girl: Casey Carlson
American Idol producers sue Stripper Idol. lol
 
missaddicted
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Quote: Originally Posted by ross 1View Post

Hi, SleepinIn! It's tough for me to process two two-hour shows' worth of auditions, I don't remember any names, either. Of those two guys who were best friends, the second one who auditioned (the one who unfortunately lost his wife recently) had a voice and style I liked. Also the blind (?) auditioner near the end. And I really liked Castro's brother's voice--though I thought it was hilarious when he (w/ pink hair, etc.) said Jason was "girly." He has confidence to spare--bordering on arrogance?--but he's right for TV and I would be surprised if he didn't go pretty far. Several girls were good, too, but I can't remember anyone else in detail at this point. Dark-haired 16 year old girl on the first night stood out for me.

I didn't even miss the instruments until you mentioned them! Good point.

I'm used to a fourth judge, from watching CI, but I wonder how AI fans are liking Kara. I didn't understand one thing: how many votes does it take to get the ticket? On CI, it seems I remember Jacob only getting two votes (Sass and Farley) and going through--is it two or three (out of four) on AI?

I don't think there were any instruments during the auditions last year either. They'll probably bring them out during Hollywood week.

I really really liked Kara (well, for now) and I think she adds professionalism to the panel. I finished watching last season with a strong dislike for Randy-Paula-Simon, so I hope that Kara brings a new dynamic to the judging table. From what I read, Simon has the deciding vote. If, for example, Randy and Kara vote no, and if Paula votes yes, Simon can decide to vote yes and send the person to Hollywood. So it can be two out of four, but Simon has to give you one of those two votes.

I didn't really like Michael Castro, though I thought he had an ok voice. But I didn't really like Jason to begin with, so I'm not that excited to see his brother. Anyway, I don't think they'll put him through the top 36, considering how they just wanted to get rid of Jason last year after a certain point.

My favorites from the two nights were all pretty much from KC. There was Danny (the guy who lost his wife), he had a great voice and I really enjoyed him just like you ross. And also Anoop(Dawg?), who I wasn't sure about during the audition, but there are plenty of videos of him on youtube singing with his a capella group from college and he very much impressed me. I liked some others, but it's too early to say. The judges pimped Lil Rounds and Scott (the blind guy) big time, but I'm not convinced.

Funniest moment: I could've done without Bikini Girl, but her awkward kiss to Ryan on "I Kissed A Girl" was definitely a very amusing moment.

My favorite part from the auditions was all the pimping of David Cook (nice montage at the beginning of the first show with his song playing, the "random" meeting of his mom and stepdad, images from his homecoming visit). Heh. I'm still stuck in season 7.
 
ross 1
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I didn't really like Michael Castro, though I thought he had an ok voice. But I didn't really like Jason to begin with, so I'm not that excited to see his brother. Anyway, I don't think they'll put him through the top 36, considering how they just wanted to get rid of Jason last year after a certain point.

I listened to his audition again last night on YouTube and I have to agree with you,
missaddicted. I think I had low expectations of him the first time I heard him--especially when he said he had only started singing something like twenty days earlier--so the fact that he could sing at all surprised me. When I gave him another listen, though, he didn't impress me much at all.

Lil Rounds: She had a big voice but I didn't get the love, either. I haven't watched a lot of AI, but the few episodes I've randomly watched over the past couple of years always seem to feature one of these proficient girl singers who I just find generic-sounding. It seems to be what Simon and Co. like. I think such a singer would probably also do well on CI, to some extent, but they're really looking for unique artists on CI and I think so am I.
 
ross 1
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Missed the show tonight (San Francisco) but have caught up somewhat by scouting down some videos. I found them by consulting Tatiana's friend, "one of the world's most powerful psychics." Okay, in reality I just looked at mj's blog, where some of the performances can be found. And I also found MySpaces for a few of the contestants.

Nobody blew me away. I guess if I have to pick anybody I liked best it would be Kai "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes" Kalama. I didn't see enough of Adam Lambert (who sang Queen) to agree or disagree with Paula ("brilliant"). I thought he was slick. Supposedly he has some good videos on YouTube. Jesus V. sang nicely, but what's with Kara's reason for giving him a yes?--"I don't want to disappoint your kids."

These are MySpace Music pages for bands featuring Raquel Houghton (who auditioned with "Son Of A Preacher Man"), and Kai Kalama (I'm not sure if it's Kai doing the vocals on this one, though).

Funny, even though this was San Francisco, the gold ticket winners were all from LA and Southern California. None of the NoCal/Bay Area people they showed made it.
 
In Between Man
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Tonite's episode was all right I guess. They kinda sapped it up a bit at times, but showcased some pretty interesting talent.

During these audition episodes I mainly like to see the freaks. Really, really weird/eccentric/interesting people.
 
ross 1
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From what I understand, they're showing fewer auditions this year and empasizing the weird/eccentric people a lot less.
 
missaddicted
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Quote: Originally Posted by ross 1View Post

From what I understand, they're showing fewer auditions this year and empasizing the weird/eccentric people a lot less.

Actually, it was supposed to be the contrary! But, the audition show from San Franscisco definitely didn't show us that! But with only 12 people making it, I bet they didn't want to show us all 12. We saw 7 of them actually, including the incredibly annoying Tatiana and the mediocre Jesus.

Adam has a big buzz going on for him, but I'm not convinced. He seemed like a great guy, but I didn't really like his audition. I watched some videos, but they just showed me that some of his performances are way over the top. If he cuts back on the theatrics, maybe I'll be on board, because I can't deny that he has a good voice.

Kai didn't really wow me, I thought his voice was nothing special, but maybe I need to see more. By the way, ross, if you find myspaces with music on them, it's not a good sign, since all the contestants who made the top 50 were supposedly required to take down their music at the beginning of January. It's not like that with Canadian Idol and I'm grateful that it's not.

From Louisville, I liked Joanna's voice and she was likeable enough, but I don't know if her previous experience(s) in the industry won't be a turn off for some viewers. I also liked the way-too-brief auditions of Kris Allen and Felicia Barton that were included in a montage.

The others who made it didn't really leave a mark on me, but again, it's so hard to judge after hearing so little of their singing.

Finally, the guy (Aaron?) who belted "Have You Ever Seen the Rain" thoroughly entertained me (if only for the reactions of the judges!), but mainly made me remember fondly the amazing version that was done by Mookie, Tetiana and the Pigott brothers last summer.
 
In Between Man
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Tonite's ep was pretty hilarious, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I laffed particularly hard when that "Mudd" guy made the off the cuff remark "be careful", and the judges interpreted it as a threat.

Poor guy, curse on his family name I suppose.

As for the talent, I seen a couple that stood out for me. I can't remember their names though; I'll have to post my favorites' once we get to Hollywood week.
 
ross 1
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We saw 7 of them actually, including the incredibly annoying Tatiana and the mediocre Jesus.


You got that right.

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Adam has a big buzz going on for him, but I'm not convinced. He seemed like a great guy, but I didn't really like his audition. I watched some videos, but they just showed me that some of his performances are way over the top. If he cuts back on the theatrics, maybe I'll be on board, because I can't deny that he has a good voice.


If you ever thought Simon's head would explode if he saw Jacob Hoggard perform (as someone once said on another forum), what do you think he'd make of this?


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Kai didn't really wow me, I thought his voice was nothing special, but maybe I need to see more. By the way, ross, if you find myspaces with music on them, it's not a good sign, since all the contestants who made the top 50 were supposedly required to take down their music at the beginning of January. It's not like that with Canadian Idol and I'm grateful that it's not.


That's interesting, missaddicted! The MySpace with Raquel Houghton (The Valli Girls) just says (I think) "Raquel: vocals." The MySpace for the band, OffWhite, says "Kai Kalama (Former Member)."


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From Louisville, I liked Joanna's voice and she was likeable enough, but I don't know if her previous experience(s) in the industry won't be a turn off for some viewers. I also liked the way-too-brief auditions of Kris Allen and Felicia Barton that were included in a montage.


The others who made it didn't really leave a mark on me, but again, it's so hard to judge after hearing so little of their singing.


I had to miss part of tonight's episode, as well, but it did seem like some of the best people were in the short montage near the end.


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Finally, the guy (Aaron?) who belted "Have You Ever Seen the Rain" thoroughly entertained me (if only for the reactions of the judges!), but mainly made me remember fondly the amazing version that was done by Mookie, Tetiana and the Pigott brothers last summer.


*tears up a bit* I miss you CI.
 
ross 1
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You will see a vast difference between Canadian Idol and American Idol.

I'm kind of surprised the difference is as vast as it is. Since the basic format is the same. I can't even really compare the differences until I see more of it. My overall impression of the early audition episodes of CI is that the judges respect and like each other and seem to be enjoying the whole process. AI judges seem like they'd never hang around with each other if they weren't paid to, and seem sort of impatient to get on with it, get to Hollywood, get past this nonsense. The CI judges remind me somehow of high school teachers holding auditions for the senior show. They seem to know the kids (even though they don't) and like them or respect them. AI is much more businesslike. Just my impressions.

Tonight's show was on the dull side, to me. I'm not a huge fan of the Whitney Houston style of singing, which is maybe why I liked that kid who missed his guitar (Michael Perrelli, I think). Not that he sang great. No doubt he would have done better with the guitar. (Though why he didn't know the rules until the last minute and expected to play an instrument is weird. I'd think they must issue guidelines for auditions.) Anyhow he's the first human being I seemed to able to get interested in, and he sang the way a lot of 18 year olds who front bands these days sing. In a way I think AI is old fashioned since the style of music they're into was really hot fifteen years ago. CI dug up some people this year who were pretty much "today," and, aren't those the people who actually may go somewhere in the business and become actual idols, rather than young Whitney and Mariah clones?
 
In Between Man
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I haven't watched tonite's episode yet. I'm on Western time, yet I'll be sure to get back to ya with a response Ross1.
 
missaddicted
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Quote: Originally Posted by ross 1View Post

Tonight's show was on the dull side, to me. I'm not a huge fan of the Whitney Houston style of singing, which is maybe why I liked that kid who missed his guitar (Michael Perrelli, I think). Not that he sang great. No doubt he would have done better with the guitar. (Though why he didn't know the rules until the last minute and expected to play an instrument is weird. I'd think they must issue guidelines for auditions.) Anyhow he's the first human being I seemed to able to get interested in, and he sang the way a lot of 18 year olds who front bands these days sing. In a way I think AI is old fashioned since the style of music they're into was really hot fifteen years ago. CI dug up some people this year who were pretty much "today," and, aren't those the people who actually may go somewhere in the business and be actual Idols, rather than young Whitney and Mariah clones?

I agree with you on most of what you said. Tonight was really dull! I hope they're hiding some talent and keeping it for Hollywood (next week! finally!), because right now, I'm only interested in following maybe 3 or 4 out of all the ones we saw making it to Hollywood since the beginning of the season.

I'm also not a fan of the Whitney/Mariah clones, which is also one of the reasons I mostly prefer CI. Actually, I liked last year of AI (the talent that is), because the R&B was kept to a minimum, especially the "divas". Well, there was Syesha I guess. But, apparently, there were a lot of "big voices" during the previous seasons, so I think I would've found that very boring. But, R&B, or country for that matter (which I don't really like either), are really popular music styles in the US, even right now. I agree that AI is still old-fashioned is so many ways though.

The only one I liked tonight was Anne Marie. I didn't think she needed to come back and look more like a star. I liked that she was just very natural (and a natural beauty as well). The rest: very mediocre. And about Michael, I also wondered why they didn't put him through when they were putting through so many mediocre people. "Oh, she has a cute dog, let's put her through!" At least tonight, we didn't have a big sob story to conclude the episode.

The thing I hate the most about AI is the panel of judges. If it hadn't been for David Cook last year, I don't think I would've made it to the end. They just like to hear themselves talk (or sit in each other's lap I guess), but they often don't really care about the contestants. I really like Ryan though, almost as much as Ben.

Sorry, that was long!
 
ross 1
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I meant to add to my rant: why don't they allow instruments in AI auditions, anyway? I guess I never understood the idea of unaccompanied auditons in the first place. It's not like anybody's going to be singing a capella in the competition itself.

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The only one I liked tonight was Anne Marie. I didn't think she needed to come back and look more like a star. I liked that she was just very natural (and a natural beauty as well).

I forgot about her for a minute. I also liked her naturalness and didn't think they made sense requesting her to "come back as a star," basically. Does everybody have to be a diva? That can get boring.

I'm not a big audition-show fan and I'm eager for the Hollywood stuff to start; I need to be able to focus on some individuals and see if I can find any to follow and root for.

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The thing I hate the most about AI is the panel of judges. If it hadn't been for David Cook last year, I don't think I would've made it to the end. They just like to hear themselves talk (or sit in each other's lap I guess), but they often don't really care about the contestants. I really like Ryan though, almost as much as Ben.

The judges are what kept me from sticking with it in previous years. Don't know what you think of Kara, I haven't made up my mind about her yet. I haven't seen much of Ryan yet...seems as if Ben is featured in early episodes of CI more than Ryan is in AI's.

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I haven't watched tonite's episode yet. I'm on Western time, yet I'll be sure to get back to ya with a response Ross1.

Okay, allywayzalwayz.
 
MissAnnika
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the only part i've ever watched were the audition episodes, after that i call it quits
 
Cannuck
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My very favorite American Idol contestant

YouTube - WORST SINGER EVER 2 - American Idol

 
In Between Man
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Tonight's show was on the dull side, to me.

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Tonight was really dull!

I completely disagree!!! From what I seen, there is perhaps some amazing talent this year. I also seen a lot of really bad, but hilarious auditions.

Basically, when I'm watching AI, I have a smile or laff on my face the entire time. The editing job on that show is phenomenal in how it sucks you into the moment!

The problem is that they don't show enough! They parade all these strangers in the end with their golden tickets, and we didn't get to hear the audition. You know there is whole lot more they're not showing us! Even in the weirdo department.

It should be on longer (ie. 2 hours plus) and more frequent (every single frickin day)

We should get to see more freaks, people whose singing and social skills/graces are so neurotic/disconnected/absurd that it makes me uncomfortable as a viewer! Love that!

I can't believe you guys found the show boring. Let me tell ya, I've have honestly seen every single episode of both Canadian Idol and American Idol in every single season, and I think this season here is shaping up to be a really good one!

If you guys were true, hardcore fans like yours truly you, would have enjoyed tonite's glimpses into potential talent, and the lesser people who make us all feel better about ourselves:

The first contestant, Josh, who came in all "homie G" styles, and compared himself to Justin Guarini. He was pretty awesome Dawg!

Naimoi, the girl whose friend sat on Randy's lap. She was god-awful, and yet she thought her audition was the BEST she ever done! What a loser!

George Ramirez, the 18 year old with a full beard. Oh boy, where do I start! Talk about a serious lack of social graces! This kid misunderstood every statement or expression tossed his way. He was shaky, unconfident, seemed to hide his true self behind that beard. And then his singing hehehehe jeez, what are you doing kiddo?! Your only wasting your time.

That Pirelli kid with the guitar. Not a terrible singer by any means, but man what a wimp. It's just a guitar man, let it go...

That T.K. guy who tried out last year, he was pretty talented.

Anne Marie, looking forward to hearing her again.

So yeah, more audition episodes, longer, more frequent, NOW!
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ross 1
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My very favorite American Idol contestant

That was freakin' hilarious.
 
missaddicted
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We'll just have to agree to disagree alleywayzalways. The reason I enjoy the Idol shows is that they make me discover new talents, people whose music I would potentially buy. I don't watch for the trainwrecks, though it's true that they're sometimes funny. But, I would mostly like to watch only the talented people. The freaks and the deluded kids that we see during the auditions are not entertaining to me. Well, mostly, since it's way too easy to laugh at some of them. I can't wait until the end of the audition phase of the show though.

And if you consider that you're a more devoted Idol fan than me, then I don't have a problem with that. Three hours of AI this week are way enough for me!
 
In Between Man
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Quote: Originally Posted by missaddictedView Post

We'll just have to agree to disagree alleywayzalways. The reason I enjoy the Idol shows is that they make me discover new talents, people whose music I would potentially buy. I don't watch for the trainwrecks, though it's true that they're sometimes funny. But, I would mostly like to watch only the talented people. The freaks and the deluded kids that we see during the auditions are not entertaining to me. Well, mostly, since it's way too easy to laugh at some of them. I can't wait until the end of the audition phase of the show though.

And if you consider that you're a more devoted Idol fan than me, then I don't have a problem with that. Three hours of AI this week are way enough for me!

yeah, that's cool. I understand the some find the auditions get old fast. I quite enjoy the further rounds as well. Hollywood week alwayz gives you further insight into your favorites, and new talent they haven't shown us yet.

And when you get to the top 10, that's when you come across those performances that bring a tear to your eye.
 
In Between Man
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I'm yet to watch tonite's ep, so once again I'll have to get back to you guys.
 
missaddicted
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Well, tonight was a vast improvment over last night! Even if it was the festival of the sob stories.

David Osmond is pretty, but he was seriously cheesy. He started to sing and at once, I thought he sounded just like David Archuleta. So, yes, definitely "meh" about him. He wasn't bad, he had a pretty voice, but not my cup of tea.

I kind of liked Megan. I thought she was very likeable and her voice could grow on me. I'm curious to see what she does next.

Austin had horrible song choices, but I actually liked his voice. I'm not sure I want to see him all season long, but he was quite adorable. Rose was also very likeable and I wanted to like her singing, but I'm not sure I did.

I had to look on MJ's big blog to remind me about Frankie, because I had totally forgotten about her. She must not have been very memorable to me. I thought Taylor was also very bland, maybe in a few years she'll be better. Was she really only 16, I thought she looked like she was 23 or 24.

Anyway, tonight gave me a bit more hope for the season and I can't wait until we get to Hollywood week!
 

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