Flu is not the biggest danger ...... It's the vaccine


Stretch
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These are challenging times and we need to stay calm and think things through - not just panic and react. Fear, panic and emotional reaction got us into this mess and it is certainly not going to get us out of it.
We also need to realise - here, now - that we have long crossed the line into a fully-fledged fascist dictatorship. It has hidden itself to most people this far, but it is about to lift the veil.
It is no longer an option to do nothing or passively acquiesce to authority out of fear or apathy. Or, at least, it's not if we care about our freedoms and, most importantly, those of our children and grandchildren who will have to live almost their entire lives under a global jackboot of sheer, undiluted evil.
The word 'evil' is much overused and I don't say it lightly; but we are dealing with evil in the sense that the word is the reverse of 'live'. Those behind the conspiracy to cull the human population and turn the rest into little more than computer terminals are anti-life. They have no respect for it and no empathy with those who suffer the consequences of their actions, no matter how appalling.
I have been warning of what was coming for nearly 20 years and it is not 'coming' any more - it's here. No more excuses from anyone, please. We have to deal with it. We have to draw a line in the sand and say no more.
Never was this more important than with the conspiracy to force swine flu vaccination upon the global population. The swine flu virus was created in a laboratory to generate mass panic with the specific intention of forcing everyone to have the vaccine. Problem-Reaction-Solution. This 'natural' swine flu virus apparently contains genes from humans, birds and pigs from several continents.
If you concoct and release a virus and then implement a clearly long-planned mass vaccination programme, there can be only one sensible conclusion: swine flu is not the biggest danger here - it's the vaccine.
The scale and speed of the planned vaccination programme is insane given that the overwhelming majority of those who have contracted the virus have had very mild symptoms. Dr Peter Holden of the Rothschild-controlled British Medical Association said that although swine flu was not causing serious illness they were eager to start a mass vaccination campaign, beginning with 'priority groups'. Ugh?? This is not about public health and never was.
Those administering the vaccinations have no clue what is in them or their potential effect. They are just repeaters thinking what they are told to think and doing what they are told to do. Only those at the core of the conspiracy, and those who bother to research it, know what the game is.

'Get yer flu shot, get yer flu shot, get yer flu shot ...'
The Austrian journalist, Jane Bürgermeister, has filed criminal charges with the FBI against the World Health Organization (WHO), United Nations, Barack Obama, a Rockefeller, a Rothschild, and others, over a plot she uncovered to cull the population with a deadly swine flu vaccine.
She said that bird flu and swine flu have been developed in laboratories and released on the public with the aim of mass murder through vaccination. Her filed document is called Bioterrorism Evidence. She writes here about the United States, but what she says applies everywhere:
'There is evidence that an international corporate criminal syndicate, which has annexed high government office at Federal and State level, is intent on carrying out a mass genocide against the people of the United States by using an artificial (genetic) flu pandemic virus and forced vaccine program to cause mass death and injury and depopulate America in order to transfer control of the United States to the United Nations and affiliated security forces (UN troops from countries such as China, Canada, the UK and Mexico).
There is proof many organisations - World Health Organisation, UN as well as vaccine companies such as Baxter and Novartis - are part of a single system under the control of a core criminal group, who give the strategic leadership, and who have also funded the development, manufacturing and release of artificial viruses in order to justify mass vaccinations with a bioweapon substance in order to eliminate the people of the USA, and so gain control of the assets, resources etc of North America.
The motivation for the crime is classical robbery followed by murder although the scale and method are new in history. The core group sets its strategic goals and operative priorities in secret using committees such as the Trilateral Commission, and in person to person contact in the annual Bilderberg meeting.'
Jane Bürgermeister is a rare real journalist, so much so that she was sacked from her job as European correspondent of the Renewable Energy World website after she filed the charges with the FBI. Renewable Energy? It is their backbone and sense of decency that need renewing, but it shows how controlled everything is.
What Bürgermeister describes in her FBI submission is a summary of what I have been trying to get across in my books and talks for nearly two decades. A cabal of interbreeding families is seeking to impose a global fascist dictatorship of total human control.
Their vehicle is a secret society network structured like a transnational corporation. The operational headquarters is in Europe, in places like Rome, London, Paris, Brussels and Berlin. I refer to this as 'the Spider' and it dictates to the global web.
There are subsidiary networks of secret societies in every country that answer to the 'Spider'. Their job is to control their country's politics, banking, business, military, media, medicine, and so on, and introduce in their sphere of influence the global agenda dictated by the 'Spider'. Those on the inner levels of this structure are collectively known as the 'Illuminati'.
This is how they coordinate between apparently unconnected governments, corporations, media groups etc. The Rothschild and Rockefeller dynasties (the same bloodline) are fundamentally involved in this, as I have long exposed, and they dominate pharmaceutical medicine and government 'health' policy worldwide.
The web controls governments, the pharmaceutical industry, or 'Big Pharma', the World Health Organisation and public heath 'protection' agencies like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in the United States. In short, they control the entire medical system.
The Illuminati cabal established global bodies like the World Heath Organisation, World Bank and World Trade Organisation to transfer power from the many to the few. Their goal is a world government, world central bank, world currency and world army.
You have to centralise power to impose a global dictatorship and diversity is your worst nightmare. The Illuminati network is behind 'globalisation' and the creation of superstate dictatorships like the European Union for this same reason.
Given this essential background, it was no surprise when I saw the list of names and organisations in Jane Bürgermeister's submission to the FBI:
'Specifically, evidence is presented that Defendants President Barack Obama, President of the United States, David Nabarro, UN System Coordinator for Influenza,
Margaret Chan, Director-General of World Health Organisation, Kathleen Sibelius, Secretary of Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), Secretary Janet Napolitano, the Department of Homeland Security, David de Rothschild, banker, David Rockefeller, banker, George Soros, banker, and Alois Stoger, Austrian Health Minister, among others, are part of this international corporate crime syndicate which has, marching as one phalanx to carry out their plan of genocide, have developed, produced, stockpiled and used biological weapons to eliminate the population of the United States for financial and political gain.'
Bürgermeister says there is clear evidence that pharmaceutical companies and international government agencies are actively engaged in producing, developing, manufacturing and distributing biological agents classified as the most deadly bioweapons on earth.
She says the swine flu virus was created and released with help from the Rothschild/Rockefeller-controlled World Health Organisation - the very body which then said it was spreading so fast that a pandemic had to be declared.
The symptoms of 'swine flu' at present are pretty much the same as regular flu and it is easy to call everything 'swine flu' to increase the official numbers. The British government has announced that people should no longer see a doctor if they have flu symptoms and instead a system of diagnosis over the phone has been introduced without laboratory confirmation. How convenient for fixing the figures:
'Hello, I've got a cold, doc.'
'I think its swine flu, I'll tick you off.'
Jane Bürgermeister has filed bioterrorism charges against pharmaceutical giants like Novartis International AG, based in Basel, Switzerland, Baxter AG, based in Austria, and its parent company, Baxter International in Deerfield, Illinois. Guess who is providing much of the swine flu vaccine for mass inoculation - Baxter International and Novartis.
This is the same Baxter International that sent bird flu virus to European laboratories 'by mistake' earlier this year and it was mixed with a seasonal flu virus to create a much more dangerous strain.
Last year at least 81 people were killed by Baxter International's contaminated blood-thinning product, heparin, which was made in China from, among other things, pig intestines. Isn't pharmaceutical medicine wonderful? The contaminated heparin also seriously injured hundreds of people and it was revealed that the factory of Baxter's Chinese supplier had never been inspected by either American or Chinese public 'protection' agencies.
More than 50 dialysis patients died in 2001 because of faults with Baxter International equipment, and this month Baxter Healthcare Corporation, a subsidiary of Baxter International, reached an out-of-court settlement of two million dollars with the State of Kentucky. Baxter had been caught inflating the cost of intravenous drugs sold to Kentucky Medicaid by as much as 1,300 per cent.
This is clearly a company you can trust and it is now is a major source of the swine flu vaccine that governments across the world want to impose upon entire populations with the most minimal safety checks. The vaccine is being fast-tracked through the regulatory system with safety trials lasting less than a week. The London Times reported:
'Regulators at the European Medicines Agency said the fast-tracked procedure has involved clinical trials of a "mock-up" vaccine similar to the one that will be used for the biggest mass vaccination programme in generations. It will be introduced into the general population while regulators continue to carry out simultaneous clinical trials.'
My emphasis.
There is no need for 'trials' at all, except for public consumption. They already know what is in it and its effect. The drug companies have even been given immunity from prosecution from death or injury from the vaccine in a document signed by Obama's Secretary of Health and Human Services, Kathleen Sebelius.
Baxter International said it will be shipping swine flu vaccine worldwide by the end of July and the potential profits are fantastic; but this is not primarily about money. It about a long-planned mass-culling of the human population.
We are told that the drug companies and the World Health Organisation have been working at fever pitch to develop a vaccine for the 'new' swine flu strain known as H1N1, but ... wait for it ... Baxter International filed a patent for the H1N1 vaccine on August 28th 2008. Click here to read ... (external - login to view)
Baxter Vaccine Patent Application US 2009/0060950 A1says:
'... In particular preferred embodiments the composition or vaccine comprises more than one antigen ... such as influenza A and influenza B in particular selected from of one or more of the human H1N1, H2N2, H3N2, H5N1, H7N7, H1N2, H9N2, H7N2, H7N3, H10N7 subtypes, of the pig flu H1N1, H1N2, H3N1 and H3N2 subtypes, of the dog or horse flu H7N7, H3N8 subtypes or of the avian H5N1, H7N2, H1N7, H7N3, H13N6, H5N9, H11N6, H3N8, H9N2, H5N2, H4N8, H10N7, H2N2, H8N4, H14N5, H6N5, H12N5 subtypes.'
The patent was published in March 2009, a month before the virus was released in Mexico in April, but it was filed seven months before this 'new strain' was officially known about. It is the most blatant set-up you could ever see.
The patent includes the following ingredients and toxicity warning:
'Suitable adjuvants can be selected from mineral gels, aluminium hydroxide, surface active substances, lysolecithin, pluronic polyols, polyanions or oil emulsions such as water in oil or oil in water, or a combination thereof. Of course, the selection of the adjuvant depends on the intended use. E.g. toxicity may depend on the destined subject organism and can vary from no toxicity to high toxicity.'
Nice.
Another Big Pharma corporation involved is Novartis in Switzerland. Chief executive, Daniel Vasella, is a regular attendee of the secretive Bilderberg meetings that I have long exposed in my books. The Bilderberg Group, named in Jane Bürgermeister's FBI submission, is the creation of the Rothschild dynasty and has been administered for decades by people like David Rockefeller and Henry Kissinger.
It answers to a Rothschild secret society in Britain called the Round Table. This was first headed by the Rothschild agent, Cecil Rhodes, who plundered southern Africa on the family's behalf. Vasella attended the last Bilderberg meeting last May, just as the swine flu scare was beingengineered, and bingo, his company comes up with the vaccine.
I am not saying that people will die in large numbers immediately. This is certainly possible, but it would hardly encourage others to continue to be inoculated. The effects may be immediate in some, probably medium or longer-term in most, to hide the true source of their problem. What we do know is that we are seeing a long-prepared plan for mass vaccination by people who could not care less about the health of the population. That says everything about the real motivation, but only those in the shadows know what the effect is designed to be.
For sure, it will involve targeting the human immune system. Once that has been disabled, it's over as we see with the immune-destroyer we call AIDS. People don't die of AIDS, they die of diseases the immune system would normally deal with.
The excellent work of people like the American researcher and author, Patrick Jordan, have exposed the unfolding plan to kill vast numbers of people through engineered viruses and vaccines. He says that they have long perfected vaccines that switch off the human immune system and US troops have often been used as guinea pigs.
Patrick Jordan's research uncovers a three-vaccine system that the Illuminati have developed. The first inoculation turns off white blood cells (the immune system); the second injects viruses; and the third switches the immune system on again.
In the middle period viruses are expanding around the body, but the person doesn't feel sick because the immune system is not fighting them. When the immune system kicks in again it unleashes such an assault on the virus cocktail that it kills the body.
This is known as a cytokine storm when the immune system is so overwhelmed that it sends too many antibodies at the same time to infected areas of the body and the body kills itself.
It is also the case that the World Health Organisation has asked for live swine flu virus to be in the vaccine and it is quite possible that they will expand and maybe increase the strength of the virus through the vaccine. The WHO website says:
'In view of the anticipated limited vaccine availability at global level and the potential need to protect against "drifted" strains of virus, SAGE recommended that promoting production and use of vaccines such as those that are formulated with oil-in-water adjuvants and live attenuated influenza vaccines was important.'
Jane Bürgermeister's evidence has been supported by Wayne Madsen, a former US Naval Intelligence officer and now an investigative journalist. He said that a top United Nations scientist concluded that the H1N1 swine flu virus has certain transmission 'vectors' that suggest the new flu strain has been genetically-manufactured as a military biological warfare weapon. The UN expert believed that Ebola, HIV/AIDS, and the current A-H1N1 swine flu virus are all biological warfare agents. Madsen writes:
'Past swine flu outbreaks have been spread from pigs to humans, who then passed the flu on to other humans. However, with A-H1N1, there have been no reported infections of pigs. In fact, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), A-H1N1 has gene segments from North American swine, bird and human flu strains and a segment from Eurasian swine flu.'
Wayne Madsen also says that his sources confirm that the Centers for Disease Control and the US army recovered the body of an Inuit woman who died in 1918 in Brevig Mission, Alaska, from an outbreak of Spanish flu that killed 100 million people worldwide in 18 months.
Madsen was told that genetic material from the corpse provided the basis for the development of the H5N1 avian, or 'bird flu', strain at the US Army Medical Institute of Infectious Diseases laboratory at Fort Detrick, Maryland. This lab was the origin of the anthrax attacks on US Congress and media targets shortly after September 11th in 2001.
All this will sound way out in the Twilight Zone to those new to this sort of information, but what they need to understand is that these Illuminati families are utterly insane. They don't think like most of the rest of us, so please don't judge what they would do by what you would do. It's not the same, because they're not the same.
The Illuminati plan for the world includes a mass cull of the population and the microchipping of every man, woman and child. Microchips would allow everyone to be tracked 24/7, but it goes much further than that.
Computer technology communicating with the chips has the potential to manipulate people mentally, emotionally and physically. This could be done en masse or individually through the chip's unique transmitter-receiver signal. Killing someone from a distance would be a synch.
I mention this because, as readers of my books will know, a CIA scientist told me in 1997 that microchips developed in the secret government-military research projects were even then small enough to be injected by hypodermic needles in vaccination programmes. With nanotechnology, no one would know.
The fake swine flu scare of 1976 was a trial-run for what is happening now. These events are planned way in advance and these sick people are extremely thorough in their preparations.
The scare began with the death of an Army recruit at Fort Dix in New Jersey which the government said was caused by 'swine flu'. The recruit was the only death from the virus in 1976, but the government instigated a vaccination programme for all Americans supported by a campaign of outrageous propaganda based, as always, on terrifying people.

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The result was that at least 25 people were killed by the vaccine and hundreds seriously harmed while the Fort Dix recruit was the only death from swine flu - even if the government was telling the truth about the diagnosis. We are now heading for a re-run on a vastly bigger scale.
The British and American governments have ordered enough swine flu vaccine for the entire population and other countries are following suit. Of course, they are; the 'Spider' has demanded it.
It is clear they intend to make vaccination compulsory and threaten parents with losing their children if they refuse to submit to this fascism. Even before that, the pressure on parents to submit to the dictates of the state are going to be considerably increased.
The Rockefeller-dominated Centers for Disease Control (CDC) in the United States have said that children who have never had a flu 'shot' may need to be vaccinated four times in the Autumn - twice for seasonal flu and twice for swine flu. Making up for lost time, eh? Other children will get three shots - note the three, given Patrick Jordan's information.
The Rothschild-Rockfeller front-man, Barack Obama, has demanded that his 'health reform' bill is passed into law by August, just ahead of mass vaccination. The bill was approved this week by the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pension Committee and it includes the targeting of parents who do not have their children vaccinated. It authorises the Orwellian 'demonstration program to improve immunization coverage'. The bill says:
'Under this program, CDC will provide grants to states to improve immunization coverage of children, adolescents, and adults through the use of evidence-based interventions. States may use funds to implement interventions that are recommended by the Community Preventive Services Task Force, such as reminders or recalls for patients or providers, or home visits.'
'Interventions'? Home visits? It is one step away from immunising your children by force or having you arrested for refusing to comply. World Health Organisation 'recommendations' are binding on its nearly 200 member countries when a pandemic emergency is declared under the International Health Regulations Act of 2005 and WHO pandemic plan of April this year.
Margaret Chan, the WHO Director General, declared a swine flu pandemic when there wasn't one so these emergency powers would be activated and this lackey of the Rothschild-Rockefeller cabal is going to be recommending compulsory vaccination. She's virtually done it already. The WHO advisory board on vaccination policy includes executives from ... Baxter, Novartis, GSK and Sanofi Pasteur.

Margaret Chan with appropriate logo
Last week Margaret 'Be Afraid' Chan warned that a global pandemic of drug-resistant tuberculosis may be imminent with potentially 'catastrophic consequences'. She prattled on ...

'The situation is already alarming, and poised to grow much worse very quickly. This is a situation set to spiral out of control. Call it what you may: a time bomb or a powder keg. Any way you look at it, this is a potentially explosive situation.'
Oh, get a life woman. When will TB 'explode'? As soon as they've circulated it sufficiently, I guess.
What is happening now has been planned for a very long time. Builders have been at work for months in a highly-secretive operation at a council building called Westridge, just down the road from me on the Isle of Wight.
The builders themselves have become very suspicious as one group is given plans for one section of the work and then a totally new group is brought in for the next, and so on. No single group sees the whole picture and now people in unmarked white vans are turning up to complete the job.
I had a look through a window near a fire escape after everyone had left and it is clearly an emergency response centre of some kind. The builders were told they had to finish their work by mid-July without fail and, apparently, something similar is happening all over the country.
If you listen carefully, the dark suits tell you what is going to happen. As I said in a recent newsletter, I kept hearing the mantra from different agencies and countries about the dangers of a massive increase in swine flu in the autumn and that is now their target for mass vaccination to really get moving.
Now I am hearing that the virus could become more deadly in the same period and it could well be that they are planning to increase the numbers who die from swine flu to generate more panic and demands to be vaccinated.
We should not forget, however, that 'normal flu' kills hundreds of thousands of people a year worldwide. Have no doubt that large numbers of those people will now be officially designated as a death from swine flu, whether they are or not.
It was always going to come to this and aware people need to be strong and come together in collective non-compliance. These crazies want access to our bodies and those of our children for a reason that is nothing whatsoever to do with health.
Most people will line up with their children like good little sheep. They will accept the blatant lies without question and the authorities will use those people to target others who refuse. You will hear nonsense like 'You are putting my children at risk'.
In fact, it is the programmed people who stand in line who are putting all children at risk. The authorities will claim that those who decline are preventing 'herd immunity' when all they have done is withdraw from the herd mentality.
This is a time for like-minded people to come together in mutual support and to prepare a strategy of peaceful non-compliance. There is far more strength in numbers than doing this alone.
We must not succumb to compulsory vaccination, nor pressure from those who lack a mind of their own. If we concede our freedom to stop the state enforcing vaccination upon us and our children, what the hell freedom is left?

SAY NO TO THE VACCINE

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where are you going to draw YOUR "line in the sand"............

Last edited by Stretch; Jul 21st, 2009 at 05:39 PM..
 
Stretch
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WHO moves forward in secrecy to accomplish forced vaccination and population agenda (external - login to view)

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The WHO has refused to release the Minutes of a key meeting of an advisory vaccine group – packed with executives from Baxter, Novartis and Sanofi – that recommended compulsory vaccinations in the USA, Europe and other countries against the artificial H1N1 “swine flu” virus this autumn.
In an email this morning, a WHO spokesperson claimed there are no Minutes of the meeting that took place on July 7th in which guidelines on the need for worldwide vaccinations that WH0 adopted this Monday were formulated and in which Baxter and other pharma executives participated.
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Stretch
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1976 Swine Flu-60 Minuyes with Mike Wallace


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There was another Swine Flu outbreak in 1976 followed by a government-mandated vaccination. The vaccination killed 50 times as many people as the flu did, and thousands more were neurologically crippled for life, and sued the government for damages.
So now we have a new Swine Flu and talk of a mandatory vaccination program. Is the government talking steps to make sure the vaccine is safe this time?
No.
The US Government has declared it illegal for people harmed by the new vaccine or the families of those killed by the new vaccine to sue either the government or the vaccine makers.

Why?
 
Stretch
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A Vaccine Form You Can Give to Your Paediatrician
'Want assurances from your paediatrician about vaccines? Here's a form designed by Ken Anderson you can give them to fill out -- although there is no physician anywhere on earth who will sign it. (American, of course, but could fairly simply be converted to the UK)'
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Liberalman
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this is a grat post with all the people that refuse to take the flu shot gets me a flu shot.

I guess a lot of people forgot about all the stories about the Spannish flu where millions of people died and the smell of death was in the air.

I heard that 700 people died in the world because of the H1N1 strain so far this year wait until the fall.
 
kennyw98
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vacines are the only answer its all these conspiracy thoery people that dont get them that make it worse for the rest of us they go around spreading this **** and some how think that the government wants to kill them or some crazy stuff
 
Stretch
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Quote: Originally Posted by kennyw98View Post

vacines are the only answer its all these conspiracy thoery people that dont get them that make it worse for the rest of us they go around spreading this **** and some how think that the government wants to kill them or some crazy stuff

you keep up the good work kenny, you'll be ok mate............................
 
Nuggler
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In Canada, at least, no one is going to force anyone to get the vaccine.

Yet!!

Should people start dropping like flies from the flu, well, I'd probably get the vaccine. If there's any left.

Until then..............nope.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by kennyw98View Post

vacines are the only answer its all these conspiracy thoery people that dont get them that make it worse for the rest of us they go around spreading this **** and some how think that the government wants to kill them or some crazy stuff

Yep, conspiracy theories run rampant on practically everything, some people just don't accept any givens. As far as the flu goes, wait a week after everyone else starts getting their shots and if more than 10% of them drop over dead, I wouldn't get one. As a new member to the forum, welcome aboard. I see by your profile you support Democrat, hey be careful not to get sucked in by ANY of these guys be they Demo or Republican or any other political stripe. They are all tarred with the same brush and main objective is to get their hands in your pockets.
 
VanIsle
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Quote: Originally Posted by kennyw98View Post

vacines are the only answer its all these conspiracy thoery people that dont get them that make it worse for the rest of us they go around spreading this **** and some how think that the government wants to kill them or some crazy stuff

It has already been publicly stated that it is completely unknown if this vaccine is safe. Anyone who has the virus is probably not going to be well enough to be running around spreading it to anyone. Any spreading that is done will likely be via things you touch and the air you breathe. Other than frequently washing your hands there isn't much you can do. People who are giving off "ill" breath probably won't know it until a day or so after when they are flat on their backs with the flu. You go ahead and use the vaccine if you want. That will help the rest of us to know if we should take a chance at it. I'll keep my Purell in my pocket and if it becomes necessary, I'll wear a mask until I can get an idea of the safe use of this vaccine.
 
talloola
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that's how I do it each year too, I wait about 3 weeks after all others have been
vaccinated, then I show up for the 'last' free clinic for seniors, has worked like
a hot damn for me for years, and haven't noticed anyone dieing from any vaccines
in this area at all.
haven't had the flu since my first flu vaccine, had it many times over the years
before that, very miserable experience, sometimes 24 hr, but there have been
a few that lasted a week, or two. Don't like the idea of constant vomiting,
stomach cramps, diareha, fever, and generally feeling horrible, drinking teaspoons
of ginger ale, till soup can stay down, then maybe a piece of toast later on, yuk.
I have never had any symptoms of anything from flu shots, they just work.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by VanIsleView Post

It has already been publicly stated that it is completely unknown if this vaccine is safe. Anyone who has the virus is probably not going to be well enough to be running around spreading it to anyone. Any spreading that is done will likely be via things you touch and the air you breathe. Other than frequently washing your hands there isn't much you can do. People who are giving off "ill" breath probably won't know it until a day or so after when they are flat on their backs with the flu. You go ahead and use the vaccine if you want. That will help the rest of us to know if we should take a chance at it. I'll keep my Purell in my pocket and if it becomes necessary, I'll wear a mask until I can get an idea of the safe use of this vaccine.

That is not my understanding at all, VanIsle- apparently the majority of cases are very mild and the fatal ones generally involve people who are sick with some other ailment. I think this one mainly has a bad rep. because of the initial reports out of Mexico and the media doesn't have quite enough other business these days. It all got started just after the U.S. presidential campaign was over and reporters were sitting around with their finger where the sun don't shine..............
 
Stretch
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RDR: Looking at the swine flu vaccine with a skeptical eye (external - login to view)

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DeNoon does ask Dr. Andrew Pavia, at the University of Utah, why the government should deploy a vaccine that “hasn’t completed safety and efficacy testing?”
Pavia replies by saying “Because we already have a lot of experience with similar vaccines” and notes that pandemic swine flu is a type A, H1N1 flu virus and that the regular seasonal flu vaccine and this new vaccine “is made exactly the same way.”


But then it gets worse.
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All U.S. children should get seasonal flu shot: CDC (external - login to view)

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All U.S. children aged 6 months to 18 years should get a seasonal influenza vaccine every year, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said on Friday.
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"The U.S. government has contracts with several drug companies to develop and produce swine flu vaccines. At least two of those companies, Novartis and GlaxoSmithKline, are using an adjuvant in their H1N1 vaccines."
The adjuvant? Squalene."
The negative effects of squalene have been noted since 1987 in terms of causing severe autoimmune diseases.
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"Squalene "contributed to the cascade of reactions called "Gulf War syndrome. (GIs developed) arthritis, fibromyalgia, lymphadenopathy, rashes, photosensitive rashes, malar rashes, chronic fatigue, chronic headaches, abnormal body hair loss, non-healing skin lesions, aphthous ulcers, dizziness, weakness, memory loss, seizures, mood changes, neuropsychiatric problems, anti-thyroid effects, anemia, elevated ESR (erythrocyte sedimentation rate), systemic lupus erythematosus, multiple sclerosis, ALS, Raynaud's phenomenon, Sjorgren's syndrome, chronic diarrhea, night sweats and low-grade fever."
"Matsumoto's book includes numerous case studies of GIs afflicted with one or more of the above syndromes, their devastating effects, and the outlandish US government reaction - failing to acknowledge their existence or a connection between them and administered vaccines. Also denying the effects of other toxic Gulf theater exposures (like depleted uranium) as well as withholding meaningful treatments or protocols."
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Stretch
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Startling New Evidence That The 'Swine Flu' Pandemic is Man Made
Novartis Patent Detailed And Mass Murder Charged
'Murder suspects are either convicted or acquitted at trial based on the prosecution's presentation of EVIDENCE which usually hinges on MOTIVE, OPPORTUNITY, and TIME-LINES combined with physical documents. To gather such hard evidence, detectives and/or federal agents often spend months following leads and interviewing witnesses.
In the trial phase, re-creating the sequence of events is essential. I submit this paper will provide more than enough hard evidence to at least result in a series of criminal indictments of charges of MASS MURDER, and CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT WORLD GENOCIDE against Novartis Pharmaceutical principals and agents and others.'
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Swine Flu Plc: Cashing in on the Pandemic

'Sir Liam Donaldson, the Chief Medical Officer for England, hit the swine flu panic button last week, warning the outbreak is confronting the NHS with its "biggest challenge in a generation". But that didn't mean everyone caught up in the hysteria that has even seen stoical commuters accessorise their work outfits with face masks was panicking.
For dozens of companies, including giant multinational corporations and tiny internet quacks, the outbreak of swine flu frenzy has turned into a licence to print money. And plenty of it. The disease's explosive global advance has sent everyone from private citizens to national governments on a mass shopping spree to try to buy cures: catching swine flu might be not funny but anyone working for what increasingly looks like Swine Flu Inc is laughing all the way to the bank.'
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David Icke: Don't Take the Swine Flu Vaccine

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Martial Law and the Militarization of Public Health: The Worldwide H1N1 Flu Vaccination Program
'How best to tame the Nation's citizens, to rein in people's resentment in the face of mounting unemployment?
Create a Worldwide pandemic, instil an atmosphere of anxiety and intimidation, which demobilizes meaningful and organized public action against the programmed enrichment of a social minority. The flu pandemic is used to foreclose organized resistance against the government's economic policies in support of the financial elites.
It provides both a pretext and a justification to adopt emergency procedures. Under the existing legislation in the US, Martial Law, implying the suspension of constitutional government, could be invoked in the case of "A Catastrophic Emergency" including a the H1N1 swine flu pandemic.'
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sirlorenzo
#16
I have known this for a while now and was extremely skeptikal when I heard all of the news coverage. Especially when the media makes a huge deal about the swine flu and report numbers that are consistant with the regular flu.

Apparently the target reduction amount is 80% and also goes much farther than just vaccines. Food industry, chemtrails ect are all part of it.
 
Stretch
#17
The Global 2000 Report to The President, A Blueprint For Genocide!

Eliminate the Useless Eaters

b
y Paula Demers

Every time I turn around I will hear over the news, or read in the paper of the tremendous over population of our planet. This is very interesting, because if you took the entire population of the world (roughly seven billion people), and stood them side by side in the state of Texas, each person would have 1000 square feet! There are 261,914 square acres in Texas (that figures to seven trillion square feet). So there is enough room just in Texas for every person in this world to get a piece of land 32 ft. X 32 feet! And that's just Texas! There is no overpopulation problem! This planets just not big enough for the rich and the poor to live together, that's the real problem!

We are also told through various media sources, that we are using up the earths precious resources. Yet we have the technology to find a license plate on a car by use of a satellite. We have the technology for our government to listen to every phone call going on in the United States by use of a computer. This computer has about 400 key words, that if it picks up on any of these words, will record the phone call. We have the technology to put a computer chip contain all information on a person in the back of their hand the size of a grain of rice. We have the technology to put all information on a person on a strip in the back of their license, that can be run though a little machine and call up all info on that person. Is the media trying to tell us that we don't have the ability to use the earths precious resources wisely to feed and cloth everyone on the planet? I mean, our government pays farmers not to grow food. Food in third world countries (e.g., India) is stored in buildings and left to rot. What is going on here? What would be the purpose of stressing a fact that isn't even true? For those of you folks who have read the Iron Mountain Report, you will notice that they stress that the population would have to be at a controllable level. They give many examples on how the population could be brought down to a level that would be controllable. The simple fact is that (according to them), there are simply too many people on the earth to be controlled at this point.

The following information is taken from the report written by Dr. J Coleman, (copyright 1992: 2533 North Carson Street, Carson City, NV 89706) "Global 2000: A Blueprint For Global Genocide." I will be using quotes out of the report that should get every reader thinking.

In the first paragraph of the report Dr. Coleman wrote, he stated, "In 1979 I received a copy of a massive document commissioned by the Club of Rome and written by Cyrus Vance, three days after President James Earl Carter accepted it as official U.S. Policy....Global 2000 was unknown outside the Committee of 300 and carefully chosen official inside U.S. Government circles...." Keep in mind that many of the ideas for "Goals 2000" came from 19th century thinkers and writers such as Jeremy Bentham, William Petty-the Earl of Shelburne, H.G. Wells and Lord Bertrand Russell. (page one, paragraph three)

"In his book 'The Impact of Science on Society' Russell expounded his views on how the world's population ought to be controlled, so as not to become a threat to the privileged rulers...." (page three, paragraph five)

"We are also witnessing the Great Plagues of 1987-2000 in the form of AIDS, herpes, cholera, smallpox, tuberculosis....Aids, as we know, is an artificially induced virus which in effect is a cancer of the blood. The first experiments were conducted in Africa on the border of Sierra Leone and Nigeria..." (page four and five paragraph's five and one)

"...namely that the world is populated with too many redundant people who must not be allowed to procreate and consume scarce natural resources..." (page five paragraph five)

"..jobless people be confined in concentration camps, run by a join stock company for profit....Once committed to concentration camps, inmates would never leave there alive." (Page six, paragraph two)

"Bentham, Shelburne, Wells and Russell hated the idea of education for the masses....systems in operation that would allow people to have a vocabulary of no more than 500 words....might help to explain why Alexander King of the Club of Rome was commissioned to destroy education in America.....A destructed education system qualifying millions who can barely read and write....will ensure a society in which the majority can and will be easily manipulated by men like President Bush, Cyrus Vance, Lord Carrington and James Baker III." (page six, paragraph five)

"The First and Second World Wars were wars designed to kill millions....were not successful enough hence the new methods outlined in the Global 2000 Report." (page seven, paragraph two)

"the mechanism of agriculture and the industrialization of the world was a terrible mistake....it has led to, and presently supports, a mass of people who perform no indispensable service....consuming the limited resources and destroying the environment of the globe....which they...the Committee of 300 representing the 'preordained leaders' of the world, say is theirs.....the remedy...lies in destroying an economy based upon agricultural and industrial expansion, because these support larger and larger populations of unwanted 'useless eaters'." (page seven, paragraph seven)

"The 'surplus population' thus created is targeted for death as 'useless eaters' in terms so clearly expressed in the Global 2000 Report." (page eight, paragraph four)

"By the year 2000 the world SHALL have rid itself of at least 100 million 'useless eaters' and by the year 2050, the number culled SHALL amount to not less then 400 million." (Page nine, paragraph four)

"By the year 2000...cases of AIDS in America will have reached 10 million, with millions more dying of AIDS-related diseases like tuberculosis, meningitis, cholera and more than likely, from bubonic plague. These events were planned and they are ongoing." (Page nine paragraph five)

The quotes I have given from Dr. Coleman's report sound pretty unbelievable. Or do they? Let's take a look at what is happening in our country. In the report, Dr. Coleman mentioned abortion and the gay life style. Abortion has killed about 36 million babies. Many in America have been conditioned to believe this is not murder, but it has reduce America's population by 36 million. The gay life style was encouraged, because with same sex partners, there is no procreation.

The education system in America as "dumb downed" our children so much that people are going to and graduating from college who can't read. Out-come-based Education does not teach the basics of reading, writing and arithmetic. It is training our children to become "global citizens".

The environmental movement is bringing man down to a level lower than the animals. In public schools, children are being taught to worship "Mother Earth". People can no longer do with their property what they want, but are accountable to the government if they want to add a room to their house, put a side walk up, cut a tree down.

Our weather is being controlled. Droughts, earthquakes, floods, hurricanes are rampant. People are starving to death because of droughts in their countries and the food being shipped to them is being left to rot in storage houses.

Aids is rampant. The behaviors that cause the spread of Aids is being encouraged by our government.

Civilian labor camps are being put up on military installations. Saw an interesting article in the Daily News, January 8, 1995. It was called "Doing Time On The Outside". It talks about using prisoners to do work, like construction or road work, while they are in prison to save the taxpayers money. A sign on outside the Department of Corrections said, "Inmate Work Crews, Reducing Costs to Taxpayers". As I was reading the article, the thought kept going through my mind, "Is this how they are going to get people use to seeing prisoner slave labor?"

Global 2000 doesn't seem to have a list of people who they want to get. It seems that they consider most of the population "useless eaters". I do imagine they will go after people fighting this first. There was no evidence that folks who keep quite and don't try to get the word out would be safe. No one will be safe. The Committee of 300 believe that the world is theirs to do with as they want. The rest of us are excess baggage.

This report reminds me of a scripture verse. Matthew 24:21-22, "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. and except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."

Eliminate the Useless Eaters by Paula Demers (external - login to view)
 
GreenFish66
#18
Great thread stretch..You said it all!..I'll take a pass on any flu shots.Take my chances....How many other countries are trying to create vaccines?...How long before this flu mutates into that flu?...Into a new flu ..Like the WHO flu?
 
Francis2004
#19
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We are told that the drug companies and the World Health Organisation have been working at fever pitch to develop a vaccine for the 'new' swine flu strain known as H1N1, but ... wait for it ... Baxter International filed a patent for the H1N1 vaccine on August 28th 2008. Click here to read ...
Baxter Vaccine Patent Application US 2009/0060950 A1says:
'... In particular preferred embodiments the composition or vaccine comprises more than one antigen ... such as influenza A and influenza B in particular selected from of one or more of the human H1N1, H2N2, H3N2, H5N1, H7N7, H1N2, H9N2, H7N2, H7N3, H10N7 subtypes, of the pig flu H1N1, H1N2, H3N1 and H3N2 subtypes, of the dog or horse flu H7N7, H3N8 subtypes or of the avian H5N1, H7N2, H1N7, H7N3, H13N6, H5N9, H11N6, H3N8, H9N2, H5N2, H4N8, H10N7, H2N2, H8N4, H14N5, H6N5, H12N5 subtypes.'
The patent was published in March 2009, a month before the virus was released in Mexico in April, but it was filed seven months before this 'new strain' was officially known about. It is the most blatant set-up you could ever see.
The patent includes the...

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Please show me where this US Paten is ? I am very interested in it ?

United States Patent and Trademark Office Home Page

I truly want to see it..
 
Stretch
#20
Baxter Vaccine Patent for H1N1, Two Years Before Pandemic

Baxter Pharmaceutical files for patent on H1N1 Vaccine two years before first Swine Flu, H1N1 case is reported.
Swine Flu H1N1 cases are supposedly increasing so fast that the WHO, World Health Organization is no longer keeping a record of the number of cases.
The U.N. agency, which declared an H1N1 influenza pandemic on June 11, said last week it was the fastest-moving pandemic ever and now pointless to count every case. It told countries to stop reporting individual cases and concentrate on mitigation measures and detecting any unusual patterns of disease or spike in rates of absenteeism.” http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSLL47029320090721 (external - login to view)
While most cases appear to be mild, governments around the world are still pushing vaccine manufacturers to develop a preventative vaccine for an H1N1 virus that his killed all of 700 people. By comparison to the avian ,” Spanish flu” of 1918, which killed perhaps 50 million people worldwide, including more than 500,000 in the United States. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Flu/story?id=1173856 (external - login to view)
From A Virus of Our Own Hatching, http://birdflubook.com/a.php?id=5 (external - login to view) :


more....... Baxter Vaccine Patent for H1N1, Two Years Before Pandemic « Ahrcanum “ahR-Kah-noom” > secret secrets (external - login to view)


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Francis2004
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by StretchView Post

Baxter Vaccine Patent for H1N1, Two Years Before Pandemic
Baxter Pharmaceutical files for patent on H1N1 Vaccine two years before first Swine Flu, H1N1 case is reported.
Swine Flu H1N1 cases are supposedly increasing so fast that the WHO, World Health Organization is no longer keeping a record of the number of cases.
The U.N. agency, which declared an H1N1 influenza pandemic on June 11, said last week it was the fastest-moving pandemic ever and now pointless to count every case. It told countries to stop reporting individual cases and concentrate on mitigation measures and detecting any unusual patterns of disease or spike in rates of absenteeism.” http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSLL47029320090721
While most cases appear to be mild, governments around the world are still pushing vaccine manufacturers to develop a preventative vaccine for an H1N1 virus that his killed all of 700 people. By comparison to the avian ,” Spanish flu” of 1918, which killed perhaps 50 million people worldwide, including more than 500,000 in the United States. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Flu/story?id=1173856
From A Virus of Our Own Hatching,

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Stretch, I am willing to believe but I cannot find the original document for US 2009/0060950 A1 (external - login to view)...

This is a scanned and not certified patent piece of paper that is meaningless.. Why would Baxter hand out the Formula without an "official" stamp of approval for patent for all other Big Pharma to duplicate this Flu Vaccine if it was real..
 
Stretch
#22
royalties....maybe
it's all about the dollar, afterall
 
Stretch
#23
60 Minutes - SWINEFLU VACCINE WARNING


YouTube - 60 minutes - SWINE FLU VACCINE WARNING - Part I

 
Stretch
#24
Ten Things You’re Not Supposed to Know about the Swine Flu Vaccine (external - login to view)

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Notably, there is absolutely no safety data on the use of adjuvants in infants and expectant mothers — the two groups being most aggressively targeted by the swine flu vaccine pushers. The leads us to the disturbing conclusion that the swine flu vaccine could be a modern medical disaster. It’s untested and un-tried. Its ingredients are potentially quite dangerous, and the adjuvants being used in the European vaccines are suspected of causing neurological disorders.
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Stretch
#25
US and Canada may use experimental additives in Swine Flu shots (external - login to view)

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Swine flu vaccine manufacturers may be allowed to use experimental additives in the vaccines!?
Is the claim that they have not done this before legitimate?
The most common adjuvants presently allowed are Mercury (Thimerosol) and Aluminum Hydroxide. So, are these entirely new adjuvants? Is fast tracking these vaccines with experimental adjuvants a good idea?
Penny for your thoughts: US and Canada may use experimental additives in Swine Flu shots (external - login to view)
 
Stretch
#26
Washington Post: Swine Flu Vaccine Will Contain Mercury (external - login to view)

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The Washington Post confirmed today that the swine flu vaccine, which is set to be rolled out nationwide this fall in what some fear could ultimately become a mandatory vaccination program, will contain mercury, a toxin linked with autism and neurological disorders.
Claims by the CDC and the Institute of Medicine, following a whitewash study that ignored previously verified evidence, that thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, has no causal relationship to skyrocketing cases of autism have been soundly rejected by top doctors and scientists ever since.

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Cannuck
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by StretchView Post

The most common adjuvants presently allowed are Mercury (Thimerosol) and Aluminum Hydroxide. So, are these entirely new adjuvants? Is fast tracking these vaccines with experimental adjuvants a good idea?

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Freshly precipitated aluminium hydroxide forms gels (external - login to view), which is the basis for application of aluminium salts as flocculants in water purification.




 
Stretch
#28
The Truth About Flu Shots
'On June 11, 2009, the World Health Organization (WHO) announced that it had declared "Level 6" pandemic emergency with regard to the "swine flu." Shortly thereafter, on cue, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) announced that we should expect mass vaccination in this country to begin as early as September, 2009. We have been covering the development of the global pandemic preparedness machinery in The IO since June, 1998.
It is our belief that this machine has been in motion since March 28, 2009 and will not be stopped; that the global influenza pandemic the CDC and WHO have been predicting (planning) for at least a decade will be declared—whether people are pandemically sick and dying or not—and the global mass vaccination campaign for which they have been preparing since the 1970s swine flu fiasco will commence—soon. It is absolutely crucial that you share the following information with your friends, family and both elected and appointed bureaucrats within your community.'
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Stretch
#29
Swiss Amy Stockpiles “Swine Flu” Vaccines in Preparation for Mass Forced Vaccination
'The army in Switzerland is starting to stockpile “swine flu” vaccines as it gears up for a mass forced vaccination of the Swiss population in autumn, according to a report in the Basler Zeitung. The Cantons of Switzerland are reported to have plans already in place to force every single person living in each Canton to appear at a “vaccine center” at a specified time to take the vaccine or face prison.
The local police have been instructed to go through the register and ring every single person to get them to go to their vaccine center during the pandemic “emergency” predicted by “WHO” to occur from September onwards. No exceptions to the vaccine will be allowed.
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Stretch
#30
Before you’re forced to get any mandatory vaccinations… (external - login to view)

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…have your physician sign this:

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