Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver
When presented with the Electric Universe theory and the planetary catastrophes that might have occurred in the past, a commonly evoked question is: When did it all take place?There are beds of coal covering millions of square kilometers all over the world. They vary in thickness and composition, as well as in the material combined with them in situ. Insects, leaves, tree trunks, rocks of every kind, and the bones of animals from hundreds of species abound—some say human bones have been found in a Pennsylvania coal seam. There are carbonized trees standing upright in some coal ...
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OK DB I will,
This thread starts off more or less talking about carbonization of organics and mineralization and then meanders off into the depths of astrophysics.
I freely admit to being lazy.
I refuse to debate anything that requires I hit the stacks hard.
I wing it or nothing.
Thus I am sticking with coal.
The above post needs to decide what particular aspects of geology it wishes to reference.
Coal is cooked organic matter.
Its not a fossil.
Its coal.
You are right DB in that coal could be manufactured fairly quickly.
Soft brown coals could be created quite quickly geologically speaking.
Swamp deposition, cover it up with pretty much anything that prevents organic decay and a quick heat 'n' squeeze should get you some soft coal like material in relatively short order.
A mud slide or flood covering a standing swamp forest, the old heat 'n' squeeze and bobs your uncle. A coal "forest".
No big deal there.
Because of a fairly light level of compaction the forest would probably be a relatively young, soft coal.
But the coal forest would not extend through geological ages as the above article states.
Unless faulting or folding took place throughout the coal bed, and that's a whole different kettle of fish
Very hard coals like anthracite on the other hand would be very old geologically.
Next up is the ice cores as quoted above.
Only a few thousand years old, nothing to do with either coal or fossils.
Next up are fossils.
These are not coal.
They are rock.
They tend to consist of "casts" of the plants or animal that are replaced by various sedimentary rocks.
Like shale's,mudstone's,siltstone's and claystone's.
Sometimes the fossil itself is replaced by a mineral.
This replacement mineral is usually silica in solution.
Time,heat and pressure and you have a chunk of agatized plant or animal as an example.
The ages of just about all fossils are well understood.
Cretaceous, Jurassic so forth and so on.
Nothing to do with the creation of coal.
Next up the condition of the fossils as described in the article above.
Plate tectonics is well understood.
Faulting, folding, subduction zones it all piles up and rips apart the beds of fossils.
This explains the strange piled up and ripped apart fossil beds.
Next up the "groups" of animals.
Ever hear of undersea eruptions,earthquakes, landslides, mudslides?
That's how you get large groups of fossilized fish.
Same deal with dinosuars.
Timelines are well undestood and fairly well fixed.
There is a host of methods of dating the various rock formations availibele to the scientific community.
The calender gets better and better every year.
The above article states nothing that calls into question our exsisting knowlege base
Oh and radiocarbon dating is never used to date fossils in the first place.
No organics thus no carbon.
They tend to use radiometric decay (isotope decay).
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