Future and Time / hypothesis /

socratus

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Future and Time / hypothesis /
1
If you travel with a speed less - less than constant speed
of quantum of light ( c < 1 ) then you have your present future
( sooner or later the death willcome ).
The classical deterministic principle works in this situation.
2
If you travel quickly enough (with constant speed
of quantum of light c = 1) then the time doesn't 'exist for you
and you don't know your future.
3
If you travel quickly enough(with speed faster than quantum of light c > 1)
then sooner or later a new timeand future will come to you.
Heisenberg Uncertainty principle need to use here.
=.
Of course, a person cannottravel with such speed,
but a quantum particle has thispossibility.
==,
socratus
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Future and Time / hypothesis /
1
If you travel with a speed less - less than constant speed
of quantum of light ( c < 1 ) then you have your present future
( sooner or later the death willcome ).
The classical deterministic principle works in this situation.
2
If you travel quickly enough (with constant speed
of quantum of light c = 1) then the time doesn't 'exist for you
and you don't know your future.
3
If you travel quickly enough(with speed faster than quantum of light c > 1)
then sooner or later a new timeand future will come to you.
Heisenberg Uncertainty principle need to use here.
=.
Of course, a person cannottravel with such speed,
but a quantum particle has thispossibility.
==,
socratus
.

Good to know, Soc............will keep that in mind next time I hop into my time machine.;-)
 

darkbeaver

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Future and Time / hypothesis /
1
If you travel with a speed less - less than constant speed
of quantum of light ( c < 1 ) then you have your present future
( sooner or later the death willcome ).
The classical deterministic principle works in this situation.
2
If you travel quickly enough (with constant speed
of quantum of light c = 1) then the time doesn't 'exist for you
and you don't know your future.
3
If you travel quickly enough(with speed faster than quantum of light c > 1)
then sooner or later a new timeand future will come to you.
Heisenberg Uncertainty principle need to use here.
=.
Of course, a person cannottravel with such speed,
but a quantum particle has thispossibility.
==,
socratus
.

I was with you until you introduced sooner and later. C=1 that's everything, so all your time exists at the same one time?
 

socratus

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I was with you until you introduced sooner and later.
C=1 that's everything, so all your time exists at the same one time?

When speed of the photon is c=1 then time exists as an infinite time
(an eternity) as for photon as also for its reference frame.

Of course quantum particle can destroy this eternity andcreate a time - phenomena .
We call such time - phenomena / effect: 'vacuum fluctuation'.
=.
 

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There is no time at the speed of light--the past, present and future are all one. I wonder what that would be lie to observe. I wonder if it's like being inside teh event horizon of a black hole where time and space become reversed (you can move in time, but not in space).
 

SLM

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And, that is why the roadrunner arrives before he leaves.

He is a crafty little guy isn't he?

There is no time at the speed of light--the past, present and future are all one. I wonder what that would be lie to observe. I wonder if it's like being inside teh event horizon of a black hole where time and space become reversed (you can move in time, but not in space).

You think you'd be capable of rational thought let alone, oh I don't know, consciousness in that particular scenario? Lol.
 

darkbeaver

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There is no time, only distance. Gravity is faster than light so what's all this talk about light anyway.?

Black holes should not be introduced in a serious discussion. Neither should Hawkings ravings be considered.
 

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IN terms of quantum physics, you should view particles as existing in four-dimensional space-time.Interestingly, if you look at Feynman diagrams you can consider a positron (the anti-matter version of an electron) as an electron moving backwards in time (and antimatter in general as matter moving backwards in time).

Retrocausality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

socratus

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My first abstract point is:
No matter how the quantum particle travels
( c<1, c=1, c>1) its speed and own time are relative .
My second abstract point is:
there are two different reference frame -
one system with timeless (according to Einstein's SRT) ,
and another system where time is depended on speed
and mass (according to Einstein's GRT)
My third abstract point is:
the quantum particle can travel between these two systems.
Therefore we can see 'vacuum fluctuation '
My fourth abstract point is:
No matter how the quantum particle travels ( c<1, c=1, c>1)
for it - its own time ( history) is ever "now".
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darkbeaver

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I 'm drawn to your fourth abstract. ever now=eternal, eternity has been mentioned elsewhere as well as infinity. I have a cardboard box, it has three dimensions eternally. I think I'm beginning to grasp vacuum finally.

If I were to move backwards in time all the universe would have to move with me in perfect synchronous harmony. That is inconceivable to me. I am humbled by the thought.
 

socratus

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I 'm drawn to your fourth abstract. ever now=eternal,
eternity has been mentioned elsewhere as well as infinity.
I have a cardboard box, it has three dimensions eternally.
I think I'm beginning to grasp vacuum finally.

If I were to move backwards in time all the universe would have to move
with me in perfect synchronous harmony.
That is inconceivable to me.
I am humbled by the thought.


you didn't grasp my heretical idea
you think only about your one (1) single cardboardbox
and i say :
there are two(2) cardboard boxes
one boxis eternal - infinite and independent from mass, speed and gravity.
another boxis depended from mass, speed and gravity (GRT)
you can travel between them without be humbled by the thought
=..