Pet RATS in Alberta illegal?

jeshikan
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I am planning to move to the west side of Canada someday and I hear that Alberta is rat-free and that it's illegal to own pet rats. I have 4. They're my babies and I'd never give them up. I know it is or was illegal to own a pitbull in Ontario, but that never stopped anyone.

Does anyone you know still own a rat in Albeta even though it's considered "illegal"? Do you think it'd be ok to not say anything and bring them anyways?
What would happen to them and me if someone was so rude as to tell on me? Do you think the police would actually investigate because of 4 pet rats?? I think that'd be extreme...
 
ChilliCheeseDog
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I found this link.
http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/deptdocs.nsf/all/prm2579
 
mabudon
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Well, ya learn somethin every day eh??

Most interesting- I never knew that any province in our contry had a "rat line" you could use to rat on rats, funny shtuff
 
karrie
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Well, if you're caught with pet rats, it's up to a $5000 fine from my understanding.

Rats get loose, and do what rats do best... breed. The province isn't willing to risk you being responsible enough to keep them properly caged. They spend a lot of money to keep their agricultural supply safe from rat infestation. All it takes is one irresponsible owner to mess that up.

Might I suggest moving to a more rat friendly province like BC if you plan to move west. (Saskatchewan is also planning on banning rats BTW)
 
Walter
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Rat-free and PST-free. Maybe there's a connection.
 
eh1eh
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Rat free. Impossible! Who would run the government?
 
ina38
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The are practical reasons why you wouldn't want RATS in Alberta...pets or otherwise. That reason is food! Remember the plague! Rats are not pets....they are dirty rodents that are prolific propagators. The province is one gigantic farm and no one wants Rat crap in the food that we each and export. The No Rat law is all about prevention and is no different than monitoring mad cow disease. The law is the law! Don't come here if you are intent on breaking the law for your own selfish motives.
 
Nuggler
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Quote: Originally Posted by ina38View Post

The are practical reasons why you wouldn't want RATS in Alberta...pets or otherwise. That reason is food! Remember the plague! Rats are not pets....they are dirty rodents that are prolific propagators. The province is one gigantic farm and no one wants Rat crap in the food that we each and export. The No Rat law is all about prevention and is no different than monitoring mad cow disease. The law is the law! Don't come here if you are intent on breaking the law for your own selfish motives.

I wasn't around during the plague, Ina, but thanks for the history lesson. I thought the plague was God's punishment for being know it all twits........shows ya how wrong one can be.

If you can't have rats there, how do the Conservatives move about?

Thanks for setting us straight.

.............(S)
 
Lor
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Don't think that coming to Alberta, that you will get away with bringing in your pet rats. Because we will rat you out. We don't want rats in this province!!!! You will get a heavy fine.. and they will remove you and your rats from Alberta. So don't be stupid!!! What kind of nut would have pet rats anyway. When I was in Seattle.. I saw a kid with a pet rat, that turned on him. Bit his arm, and he couldn't get the rat loose. He was taken to the hospital. Anyway they are disgusting and dirty creatures. Get new pets!!!!
 
carmenandcarl
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haha who would wanna live in freakin' alberta anyways, nothing to do there but be a huge Hick! Ur such a moron Lor anybody could tell u just made that little story up to try and make up being a loser in alberta haha

U probably hate kittens and flowers too right? not just pet rats
 
Risus
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Quote: Originally Posted by eh1ehView Post

Rat free. Impossible! Who would run the government?

LOL, good one, eh
 
jeshikan
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For all you rat hating hicks-you can bite me. I am a responsible owner, thank you. ALSO, you can have rats spayed/neutered like any other pet. Anyway, I never moved to Alberta.

For the nice people, thanks for your comments.
 
kayleen
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yeah i dont know why you a**holes are being dicks about rats.
for your information theyre ****ing smart, probably smarter than most of you.
And as for being dirty? no. why do you think scientists use them? because theyre
clean and disease free. i work with cargo and we get LOTS of rats in, and ive talked to alot of people about them.
You a**holes need to find a bridge, and jump off of it
Last edited by Ron in Regina; Jun 23rd, 2009 at 03:08 PM..Reason: Removed swearing...first post from this member.
 
TenPenny
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Just ask Michael Jackson.

Ben....
 
petros
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Well, if you're caught with pet rats, it's up to a $5000 fine from my understanding.

That rat and it's potential offspring will start off eating $5000 of grain the first year then $5000 a month and within that first month grow to eat $5000 a day in food that doesn't make it to the world's tables. Still think it's a silly law?
 
psychotic
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My sister just moved to Alberta...she had to get rid of her rats..I have them now lol

And to every a**hole who was bad mouthing rats, pet rats are adorable. Theyre not visious and I love them. Its just like saying "hamsters are gross" or gerbils. Screw you people! hahahaha
 
Ron in Regina
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Well psychotic, let me extend a warm Welcome from Canadain Content Forums
to you and your rats!!!!
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psychotic
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Haha thank you
 
Cliffy
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The only pet sanctioned in the Alberta parliament are pink elephants.
 
Liberalman
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I used to have a pet rat until I got my cat.
When my pet rat ran away for some reason my cat wasn't hungry
 
Nuggler
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Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

The only pet sanctioned in the Alberta parliament are pink elephants.


Not so much since Ralph left....eh
 
scottyf44
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Quote: Originally Posted by kayleenView Post

yeah i dont know why you a**holes are being dicks about rats.
for your information theyre ****ing smart, probably smarter than most of you.
And as for being dirty? no. why do you think scientists use them? because theyre
clean and disease free. i work with cargo and we get LOTS of rats in, and ive talked to alot of people about them.
You a**holes need to find a bridge, and jump off of it

According to this National Geographic article:

Quote:

Rats are among nature's most prolific mammalian breeders. Female rats breed up to a dozen times in a year and produce, on average, a half-dozen offspring. Some litters total 20 or more. It's estimated that the United States alone could house 150 million rats, possibly more.
To be fair, rats have made an incomparable contribution to laboratory sciences.
But when living in large numbers in close proximity to humans, the rodents take an enormous economic bite on people. They can devastate crops, food stores, and wreck havoc on buildings. Such property damage can tally billions of dollars. Beyond such economic damage, however, rats pose health hazards. The animals harbor the lice and fleas that spawn serious diseases such as typhus, trichinosis, and infectious jaundice. In the past they've also taken the rap for outbreaks of plague—such as the catastrophic Great Plague in 17th-century London.

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In short, if pet rats get loose, it will cause damage enviromentally and economically. They aren't a native species to the province. And yes, once they get loose, they do pose health threats. If I remember right the Great Plague of Europe was made worse by rats because they spread disease.
 
Ron in Regina
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#23
They are loose. And if you would like a Pet Rat too, I can make you
one heck of a deal!!!! Cheaper in bulk quantities, but you have to
pick them up yourself in Swift Current.

(Just wire the $$$ to my PayPal Account, now how many do you want?)
 
ironsides
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Man get loose, and do what men do best... breed. The province isn't willing to risk you being responsible enough to keep them properly caged. They spend a lot of money to keep their agricultural supply safe from human infestation. All it takes is one irresponsible owner to mess that up.


Lets all move to "Ape City.)

Sorry karrie, couldn't resist.

 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by jeshikanView Post

I am planning to move to the west side of Canada someday and I hear that Alberta is rat-free and that it's illegal to own pet rats. I have 4. They're my babies and I'd never give them up. I know it is or was illegal to own a pitbull in Ontario, but that never stopped anyone.

Does anyone you know still own a rat in Albeta even though it's considered "illegal"? Do you think it'd be ok to not say anything and bring them anyways?
What would happen to them and me if someone was so rude as to tell on me? Do you think the police would actually investigate because of 4 pet rats?? I think that'd be extreme...

Pretty sure you can just hire a lawyer in Oilberta. You don't have to bring your own.
 
karrie
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lol... no worries, it made me laugh. And I bet if the gov could find a way to make rats pay taxes like man does, they'd happily let them in.
 
jlbee
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I actually moved to Alberta from Nova Scotia, and having my 3 pet rats for 2 years, couldn't leave them behind, so I flew them via Air Canada Live Cargo to Edmonton. They never mentioned to me at the live cargo office that it was illegal to have them in Alberta (and I had no clue because the idea of that seems absolutely rediculous to me). Then someone mentioned it to me and I decided to do some research. I actually called the agricultural department to get more information (and I'm assuming someone "ratted" me out, because I had an agricultural worker calling me about the rats). Needless to say he was quite nice about the whole thing, he came over to my house, gave me a licence to have them for a month until I could ship them out of the province, and didn't fine me the 5000$ that he could have.

However, he knew absolutely nothing about pet rats (everythig he listed off to me as being the "problem" with rats was absolutely false. In my opinion, if I was to have someone working on investigating rat sightings in Edmonton, I would want them to know SOMETHING about rats. He just kept repeating, they are dirty, they carry diseases, they eat crops, they make babies. In reality, pet rats are extremely clean (no more "dirty than a hamster). Secondly, they don't carry anymore diseases than your average dog, if not less because they don't have the potential to come into contact with other wild animals that might carry diseases (IE rabies). Rats are bred to be sold as pets, they aren't collected from the wild, hence they DO NOT have diseases anymore than your average pet store animal. Lastly, yes rats breed, and eat crops. So do rabbits, but you don't see Alberta killing off all the rabbits (which also "carry diseases"). I think Albertans are so ignorant about the realities of pet rats, and want to feel special about being the only rat free provicne in Canada. My question is, is that really something to be proud of? Couldn't they be spending this money on helping homeless people, or putting money toward programs to stop drug use (since Ive heard they are the Meth capital of Canada). I just fail to see how keeping the province "pet rat free" is still a prominant and important issue, given all of the other things Alberta is dealing with. Futhermore, for everyone who believes pet rats aren't "native" to Alberta, they live in Nova Scotia in the wild, and we also have alot of agriculture, and they aren't a problem. Rats would naturally live here if Albertans weren't extinguishing them and keeping them out. I believe exterminating wild rats is one thing, but prohibiting having rats as pets is stepping over the line and is a big waste of resources and money to regulate and police this law.
 
Liberalman
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Rats are illegal yet they have Conservatives
 
karrie
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jlbee, you're talking pet rats. His job is to assume your rats will not remain pets, and will be let out, where yes, they are prone to carrying disease, and every last thing he listed.

It is not uncommon for pet rats to be dumped. If all pet owners were responsible, you'd likely be allowed to keep them. Alas, they're not.
 
Mowich
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in ReginaView Post

They are loose. And if you would like a Pet Rat too, I can make you
one heck of a deal!!!! Cheaper in bulk quantities, but you have to
pick them up yourself in Swift Current.

(Just wire the $$$ to my PayPal Account, now how many do you want?)


Was reading about the rat problem in Swift Current, Ron. At the same time, 100 Mile was having a feral cat problem. I wrote a letter to the editor of the local rag suggesting they catch the cats and send them to Swift Current. The editor thought it was a great idea but someone from the lower mainland decided to step in and move the cats to her shelter.
 

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