60% of Albertans will get a full rebate for carbon tax


tay
#1
Five Facts About Albertaís New Carbon Tax


Letís start with the most obvious place Albertans will notice a difference: the gas station.

The carbon tax translates to an increase of 4.49 cents per litre. For a 50-litre tank, that means itíll cost an extra $2.25 to fill up. While youíd likely rather spend that on a double-double, itís probably not going to break the bank.

What about the much feared knock-on effects of the price on carbon? Itís estimated the tax will increase the indirect costs of consumer goods by about $50 to $70 per person in 2017.

But before you start reaching for your piggy bank: 60 per cent of Albertans will receive a full rebate for the carbon tax (all single households with a net income under $47,500 and all couples or families with a net income under $95,000). Another six per cent of households will receive a partial rebate.

In addition, the rebates are tied to income level (external - login to view), not the amount of energy one actually uses, meaning that Albertans can effectively make money from the carbon tax if they use a lower-than-average amount of energy ó which is kind of the point.

Two-thirds of households will receive money back and the first cheques will be in the mail this month. Thereís no need to apply. Albertans will automatically receive a rebate if they submitted a 2015 tax return and are under the cutoff.

What about the upper third of income earners in Alberta? They will have to pay the full cost of the tax ó however, they also have the option to do things like make their homes more energy efficient or choose a more fuel efficient vehicle to reduce the cost. Rebates and incentives will be available for purchasing and installing new energy-efficient appliances, products and systems.

And investments enabled by the revenue generated by the tax ó in renewable energy, public transit and energy efficiency ó will make it easier for everyone to reduce their emissions.

https://www.desmog.ca/2017/01/01/fiv...new-carbon-tax (external - login to view)
 
Curious Cdn
#2
Ours just went up in Ontario as the new carbon tax kicks in.
 
Decapoda
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So...the point of this is to tax wealthy carbon emitters only? Is carbon dioxide emitted by lower income people somehow less of a concern to the environment? This seems to reinforce the notion that carbon taxes are nothing more than a massive wealth transfer scheme snd have nothing to do with saving the planet from devastating warming.
 
Curious Cdn
+1
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by DecapodaView Post

So...the point of this is to tax wealthy carbon emitters only? Is carbon emitted by lower income emitters somehow less of a concern to the envirinment? This seem to reinforce the notion that carbinvtaxes are nothing more than a massive wealth transfer scheme snd have nothing to do with saving the planet from devastating warming.

The point of this tax is more revenue so that the federal and provincial Liberals can dole out goodies prior to elections and buy our votes with our own money.
 
EagleSmack
+1
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by DecapodaView Post

So...the point of this is to tax wealthy carbon emitters only? Is carbon emitted by lower income emitters somehow less of a concern to the envirinment? This seem to reinforce the notion that carbon taxes are nothing more than a massive wealth transfer scheme snd have nothing to do with saving the planet from devastating warming.

BadaBING!
 
Cannuck
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by DecapodaView Post

So...the point of this is to tax wealthy carbon emitters only? Is carbon dioxide emitted by lower income people somehow less of a concern to the environment? This seems to reinforce the notion that carbon taxes are nothing more than a massive wealth transfer scheme snd have nothing to do with saving the planet from devastating warming.

UN IPCC Official Admits 'We Redistribute World's Wealth By Climate Policy' (external - login to view)
 
Decapoda
#7
It’s interesting how only a few short years ago a liberal election campaign was completely annihilated with the promise of a “green shift” plan…criticised by almost everyone as nothing more than a deceitful, complex and bureaucratic tax grab, yet a few years later the same policy dressed up with a nice hair doo and fluffy disposition is welcomed with open arms to many of the same liberal lemmings as they march us off the cliff.

I guess Trudeau’s vacuous strategy must have worked. Dion’s problem is that he developed and laid out a detailed policy with the announcement of his green shift plan. He owned it. Trudeau on the other hand, as he typically does, announced his policy without a plan. He simply made an announcement (while the first ministers were in the middle of a meeting collaboratively discussing the policy’s foundation) that it would be the provinces responsibility on how they would implement his imposed targets on carbon.

This is what happens when you leave kids in charge, stuff gets broken but no one has the courage to step up and take responsibility.
 
EagleSmack
+1
#8
Trudeau won because the U.S meddled in the Canadian election.
 
captain morgan
+2
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Trudeau won because the U.S meddled in the Canadian election.


Nonsense... Everyone knows that it was Putin and once he finished hacking the election, he rigged a few hockey games to make the Maple Laughs win
 
Cannuck
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Trudeau won because the U.S meddled in the Canadian election.

Not far from the truth...

Following the (primarily U.S.) money funding Canada's anti-oil movement - Alberta Oil MagazineAlberta Oil Magazine (external - login to view)

You Canadian wannabees sure do love Suzuki
 
Ron in Regina
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Trudeau won because the U.S meddled in the Canadian election.

You Bastards! Then you can take him, & he can be Trumps Fluffer for the
next four years, & then go back to his trust fund.
 
taxslave
+1
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by tayView Post

Five Facts About Albertaís New Carbon Tax


Letís start with the most obvious place Albertans will notice a difference: the gas station.

The carbon tax translates to an increase of 4.49 cents per litre. For a 50-litre tank, that means itíll cost an extra $2.25 to fill up. While youíd likely rather spend that on a double-double, itís probably not going to break the bank.

What about the much feared knock-on effects of the price on carbon? Itís estimated the tax will increase the indirect costs of consumer goods by about $50 to $70 per person in 2017.

But before you start reaching for your piggy bank: 60 per cent of Albertans will receive a full rebate for the carbon tax (all single households with a net income under $47,500 and all couples or families with a net income under $95,000). Another six per cent of households will receive a partial rebate.

In addition, the rebates are tied to income level (external - login to view), not the amount of energy one actually uses, meaning that Albertans can effectively make money from the carbon tax if they use a lower-than-average amount of energy ó which is kind of the point.

Two-thirds of households will receive money back and the first cheques will be in the mail this month. Thereís no need to apply. Albertans will automatically receive a rebate if they submitted a 2015 tax return and are under the cutoff.

What about the upper third of income earners in Alberta? They will have to pay the full cost of the tax ó however, they also have the option to do things like make their homes more energy efficient or choose a more fuel efficient vehicle to reduce the cost. Rebates and incentives will be available for purchasing and installing new energy-efficient appliances, products and systems.

And investments enabled by the revenue generated by the tax ó in renewable energy, public transit and energy efficiency ó will make it easier for everyone to reduce their emissions.

https://www.desmog.ca/2017/01/01/fiv...new-carbon-tax (external - login to view)

So as usual for a socialist government the top producers end up carrying the load for the freeloaders even if they produce less emissions. Meaning this is not about the environment but yet another tax gouge on the rich. Actually not even the rich since most people working in industry will make over the $95000.

You know it is a tax scam when Indian bands are exempt. As are exports under BC carbon tax scam.
 
petros
#13
An ignorance tax.
 
MHz
#14
After reading up on it we need to raise it a lot so the rebates are higher.
Do we still have that Northern Living Allowance because it needs to be moved south a bit?
 
petros
#15
Yup we do.
 
MHz
#16
Where I was we only got 50% as they used the start of the Alaska Highway as the starting point for 100%.
 
petros
#17
Move north. We won't miss you.
 
damngrumpy
#18
As a person who leans left or right depending on the issue I think the carbon tax
is well meaning and demonstrating government is doing something. When in fact
it is not. You can sequester all the carbon we want and nature will thwart our
efforts every year. One forest fire for three days will wipe out any gain made by
man.
The money would be better spent informing people as to how the individually can
make a difference by being aware of their own waste. It would be cheaper and more
effective. As it is charging more means people will pay more and the price will go
up. Carbon sequester will not go down in the long run
Its a nice thought but we are setting ourselves up for failure down the road and people
pay into things that ultimately fail are angry voters down the road
the truth is carbon sequester by governments is a waste of time like the king who went
to the edge of the sea to stop the tide from coming in. We all know how that turned out
 
EagleSmack
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in ReginaView Post

You Bastards! Then you can take him, & he can be Trumps Fluffer for the
next four years, & then go back to his trust fund.

Yup... true story.
 
petros
+1
#20
$1.36 per litre in Metro Vancouver...

It's coming soon to a pump near you.
 
Curious Cdn
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

$1.36 per litre in Metro Vancouver...

YIKES!

You need a pipeline from Alberta!
 
petros
#22
That is what a Carbon Tax does.

$1.07 in Edmonton...
 
Curious Cdn
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

That is what a Carbon Tax does.

Ours has only shot up about three cents a litre, so far. I have no idea where it stops, though as the oil companies may have temporarily absorbed some of the shock. It could keep creeping up all week, day after day.
 
MHz
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Move north. We won't miss you.

You must really hate me if you took the time to do a petition. Might I remind the jury that the place was missing a few PC warning signs about which topics are 'off-limits' before there ever was a 'we' to begin with.

Memo to self: going north doesn't affect internet speed.

Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

That is what a Carbon Tax does.

$1.07 in Edmonton...

Now take in warm-up time and idling and slow speedsbecause everybody is scared they might be on 'black ice' and you'll be lucky to get 12mpg.
 
Curious Cdn
#25
It's around $1.15 in this neighbourhood, today. I can do five or six cents better near my work, though.
 
taxslave
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

That is what a Carbon Tax does.

$1.07 in Edmonton...

Not just the carbon tax. Vancouver also has a transit tax on gas so people that drive can help pay for public transportation for those that don't.
 
tay
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious CdnView Post

Ours just went up in Ontario as the new carbon tax kicks in.

I know. I live in Wynnetario.........

Quote: Originally Posted by tayView Post

I know. I live in Wynnetario.........

And I should add I haven't heard of where the monies going, unlike Albertans....
 
MHz
#28
This time of year it will be catching up on the utilities.
 
bobnoorduyn
+1
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Not just the carbon tax. Vancouver also has a transit tax on gas so people that drive can help pay for public transportation for those that don't.


That's why its cheaper in Prince George, and why most folks I know who live in Vancouver do a lot of shopping in Washington and fill 'er up for the 20 minute drive back home. I'm a bit too far from Montana to make that sort of trip worth while, hopefully Nutley will be a one hit wonder like her NS товарищ, sorry, comrade Darrel Dexter.
 
Cannuck
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by bobnoorduynView Post

...hopefully Nutley will be a one hit wonder...

There's no hopefully about it. Like Trump in the US, she was a product of voter apathy. She has zero chance in the next election.
 

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