Druggie Conspiracy Theory


karrie
#1
www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=33020 (external - login to view)

You could watch the video link above, with a meth head climbing out of his(?) own skin, high on drugs, but, I will summarize the complaint, the conspiracy theory, he(?) voiced.

As the Olympics get closer and closer, the drugs hitting the street are getting dirtier and dirtier, more and more dangerous, in an attempt to kill off the street people relying on them.
 
Lester
#2
Relying? How do these people resort to doing this crap- the stuff isn't made by Pfizer-
Here are some of the ingedients below:
Alcohol -
Gasoline additives/Rubbing Alcohol
Ether (starting fluid)
Benzene
Paint thinner
Freon
Acetone
Chloroform
Camp stove fuel
Anhydrous ammonia
White gasoline
Pheynl-2-Propane
Phenylacetone
Phenylpropanolamine
Rock, table or Epsom salt Red Phosphorous
Toluene (found in brake cleaner)
Red Devil Lye
Drain cleaner
Muraitic acid
Battery acid
Lithium from batteries
Sodium metal
Ephedrine
Cold tablets
Diet aids
Iodine
Bronchodialators
Energy boosters
Iodine crystals
 
lone wolf
#3
Their mix gets dirtier the farther from the lab they get. Every hand it passes through adds a bit more to get more mileage and turn a bigger profit.
 
Kreskin
#4
That place is a complete nuthouse.
 
quandary121
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

Their mix gets dirtier the farther from the lab they get. Every hand it passes through adds a bit more to get more mileage and turn a bigger profit.

Never a truer word has been spoken,you hit the nail on the head with this answer lone wolf..
 
thomaska
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=33020 (external - login to view)

You could watch the video link above, with a meth head climbing out of his(?) own skin, high on drugs, but, I will summarize the complaint, the conspiracy theory, he(?) voiced.

As the Olympics get closer and closer, the drugs hitting the street are getting dirtier and dirtier, more and more dangerous, in an attempt to kill off the street people relying on them.

Good job then. I applaud the clean up efforts.

On the other hand, I wonder what mr BuggySkins' theory is about WTC 7?
 
Unforgiven
#7
Tragic. It's not difficult to shake your head and turn away while this takes it's course. The blond guy was "tweaking" and looked pretty rough. Could be right though about the drug mixture. It takes a "Cook" to make Chrystal Meth, as it's not just something you could whip up in your kitchen. Not to mention it's very dangerous to make. A chemist would probably have no problem making it but as the information is handed down from one Cook to another, things can get left out, precautions overlooked and ingredients that aren't exactly the ones called for.

I would submit that more than cleaning the streets in some *** backward attempt to make it that much more presentable for the Olympics, it's a matter of making the most profit with the least amount of investment. Not like this is regulated in any way.

I expect Clementy couldn't be happier to see this.
 
karrie
#8
Now, for argument sake. Taking it from the view of the druggie. The meth industry has always been dirty and profit driven. They've presumably always been dealing with the same sorts of crooked cooks and greedy dealers. Why the supposed change? People have gotten greedier this year?
 
Kreskin
#9
I can see how they might link the games to the drugs but is it conceivable that anyone in government would dare a) share their idea about doing this and b) do it? Someone like Campbell would risk a lengthy prison term for it? Doesn't make sense. If they had the will to do that they'd certainly have the will to strong arm and kick them out.
 
lone wolf
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

Now, for argument sake. Taking it from the view of the druggie. The meth industry has always been dirty and profit driven. They've presumably always been dealing with the same sorts of crooked cooks and greedy dealers. Why the supposed change? People have gotten greedier this year?

Greed is driven by risk. More heat means more risk. It's no conspiracy because conspiracies require planning. It's lack of planning and one of those things that happen when the city tries to reclaim its streets.

Saddest part about these meth heads is they are already so burned out, they're beyond help.
 
karrie
#11
One of the things that struck me is something no one else here has addressed.

ARE the drugs any dirtier? A meth head who's hit the point the guy in the vid clearly has, would end up with their immune system starting to shut down. Their reactions to the impurities would likely start getting harsher and harsher. I'd wager most junkies by his point are starting to think their drugs are getting dirtier and dirtier, not that they're slowly dying through their OWN fault.
 
Kreskin
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

One of the things that struck me is something no one else here has addressed.

ARE the drugs any dirtier? A meth head who's hit the point the guy in the vid clearly has, would end up with their immune system starting to shut down. Their reactions to the impurities would likely start getting harsher and harsher. I'd wager most junkies by his point are starting to think their drugs are getting dirtier and dirtier, not that they're slowly dying through their OWN fault.

That's an excellent point. It seems that many of them don't think they have a problem. Perhaps this person has fallen down so far it's becoming impossible not to notice the drugs are killing them.
 
lone wolf
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

One of the things that struck me is something no one else here has addressed.

ARE the drugs any dirtier? A meth head who's hit the point the guy in the vid clearly has, would end up with their immune system starting to shut down. Their reactions to the impurities would likely start getting harsher and harsher. I'd wager most junkies by his point are starting to think their drugs are getting dirtier and dirtier, not that they're slowly dying through their OWN fault.

You're probably hit it on the head.... Thing is, it's never the things we believe in or the things we do to ourselves. The more muddled a mind becomes, the more out of touch that mind becomes.
 
Unforgiven
#14
The police would be the one's to know if there was some bad drug being sold at street level. They can test what they confiscate. I can see a reason to look the other way while something embarrassing and in the way as well simply gets worked out. Sort happened that way with all the dead prostitutes on the Picton farm right up until someone found a career making angle with the publicity to go along with it. Then it was all about those poor forgotten girls.

Doesn't it make you wonder who it is that has lost their senses?
 
karrie
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by UnforgivenView Post

The police would be the one's to know if there was some bad drug being sold at street level. They can test what they confiscate. I can see a reason to look the other way while something embarrassing and in the way as well simply gets worked out. Sort happened that way with all the dead prostitutes on the Picton farm right up until someone found a career making angle with the publicity to go along with it. Then it was all about those poor forgotten girls.

Doesn't it make you wonder who it is that has lost their senses?

Maybe I'm reading you wrong. Surely you didn't just advocate rape, murder, and mutilation as okay for someone who's crimes are committed only amongst consenting adults?
 
shadowshiv
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

Now, for argument sake. Taking it from the view of the druggie. The meth industry has always been dirty and profit driven. They've presumably always been dealing with the same sorts of crooked cooks and greedy dealers. Why the supposed change? People have gotten greedier this year?

As costs become higher the drug dealer's profits shrink. They probably cut corners and make it as cheaply as they can. Hence, it would be "dirtier" than before.

Also, like it was mentioned, an addict doesn't realize the toll that the drugs make to his body. Imagine snorting cocaine over years. Your body will break down and the next time you take the drug and have an adverse reaction that you didn't have before you might think someone "messed with your stuff" rather than the cause being the body getting weaker.
 
Unforgiven
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

Maybe I'm reading you wrong. Surely you didn't just advocate rape, murder, and mutilation as okay for someone who's crimes are committed only amongst consenting adults?

Yeah, maybe you read me wrong.
 
Hazmart
#18
I am pretty sure that the 'guy' in the video is a woman... I can't believe that people put that nasty s**t in their bodies! I do find it hard to believe that this has any connection to the future olympics and agree that it is more probably attributed to the lack of 'quality control' and increase production costs.
I guess what gets me about an addicts concern that their drugs are coming harder and dirtier is that they knew that they were hard and dirty drugs before they took their first hit, why would it make any difference now?
 
Nuggler
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by HazmartView Post

I am pretty sure that the 'guy' in the video is a woman... I can't believe that people put that nasty s**t in their bodies! I do find it hard to believe that this has any connection to the future olympics and agree that it is more probably attributed to the lack of 'quality control' and increase production costs.
I guess what gets me about an addicts concern that their drugs are coming harder and dirtier is that they knew that they were hard and dirty drugs before they took their first hit, why would it make any difference now?


Yepper, seems like a girl to me Hazmart, if only by voice alone. Would say she is possibly 100% burned. Gonzo. No hope. Someone's little girl. Totally sad.

What was with the guy talking into the camera, getting bumped by the "other guy??" Didn't get that at all.........course that's par for me.

The synopsis is that someone is planning to kill addicts prior to the "games" using dirty drugs?? kinda doubt it. most drugs like meth are dirty as hell the more dealers they pass through..........someone said that - sorry.
Dirty or clean, they're gonna die soon anyway........holy sh!t!!! whatawaytago.

I can understand why some countries execute dealers. ...........just not enough of them, unfortunately.

 
CanadianLove
#20
The thing with the Meth trade is that as the Government outlaws the prferred precursers and reactants the makers have to use more impure items, thus making the final product more impure. They will not stop making it as long as the can come up with an end product that can get people a little high and a lot hooked.

And one thing about the East Side I can say is that the network there is organized. To an outsider passing through on a bus they look like a bunch of meatheads running around. They know everyone on that street and they know what drugs they do. They will start them out and pass them from dealer to dealer so they don't catch on, but they get lead done the path of addiction. They may sell them weed (Weed is OK, right - they will start dusting it with meth just a little may not even notice and likely won't (sprayed meth+water)for a hook.) then one day they are out of weed. This other guy has powder coke, cheap. Couple weeks and Damn they gave me poder heroin instead of coke. from that point they will usually try anything and the ice is the worst.

Glad I lived there for a couple years - even happier I could resist. The devil comes knockin' a lot there.
 
Cannuck
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by UnforgivenView Post

It takes a "Cook" to make Chrystal Meth, as it's not just something you could whip up in your kitchen.

Um...yes it is. That is part of the problem with it. You can make it anywhere.



Portable meth lab
 
Diarygirl
#22
Man oh man, what a way to live! Sad, sad, sad!! (One of my biggest fears is and was for my son who is 23 years old.) The streets and drugs! Someone please stop the madness!! She can't still be alive?? Death was knockin on her door when the video was taken. Harsh... but reality!!
 
CanadianLove
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by UnforgivenView Post

It takes a "Cook" to make Chrystal Meth, as it's not just something you could whip up in your kitchen. Not to mention it's very dangerous to make.

A married couple who has been in their own country home for about twenty years will likely be able to find all the ingredients to make a small batch of meth laying around their house and garage and don't even know it. And it is not that dangerous to make. The danger come when a meth-head tries to make it and the have the shakes and are in a rush (imagine that head in the video trying to cook an egg, even). It has been overdramatized on TV. Mind you there are different recipes - I am aware of 3 different ways - but the purest (ICE) if done as a slow cook it said to be the safest. It just when they get impatient and crank the heat up and start to splill things, or try too large a batch, that they blow them selves and the neigbors up.

Pure ICE is about $200/g and costs about $10 an day to make safe and pure.
Some say they find it 5-10X more addictive then Heroin.
Last edited by CanadianLove; Feb 15th, 2009 at 12:51 PM..
 
L Gilbert
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by LesterView Post

Relying? How do these people resort to doing this crap- the stuff isn't made by Pfizer-
Here are some of the ingedients below:
Alcohol -
Gasoline additives/Rubbing Alcohol
Ether (starting fluid)
Benzene
Paint thinner
Freon
Acetone
Chloroform
Camp stove fuel
Anhydrous ammonia
White gasoline
Pheynl-2-Propane
Phenylacetone
Phenylpropanolamine
Rock, table or Epsom salt Red Phosphorous
Toluene (found in brake cleaner)
Red Devil Lye
Drain cleaner
Muraitic acid
Battery acid
Lithium from batteries
Sodium metal
Ephedrine
Cold tablets
Diet aids
Iodine
Bronchodialators
Energy boosters
Iodine crystals

It looks similar to the list of what's in cigarette tobacco. I'll pass, thanks.
 

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