Zimbabwe...no end to the power struggle!

dancing-loon

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I read this:

Abducted MDC councillor sexually abused by army officer

Very cruel. Why do Blacks do this to other Blacks? I don't understand their crazy mentality.

Is there still no hope of Mugabe and his ZANU-GANG being ousted?

Another crazy part is that the Germans are going in (Red Cross) to help the cholera-sick people, but nothing is being done to eliminate the cause = Mugabe regime.
The same is happening in the Gaza Strip. The German Red Cross is donating ambulances and all sorts of medical and hygiene packages, diapers and formulas etc. Again, just helping the wounded, but not removing the root cause!! This is not just Germany, other countries are doing the same. Not that I condemn this help, but alone it is kind of insane. It's like fixing a broken arm, so it can be broken again!!
 

dancing-loon

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Source: XE.com - UCC Error

Live rates at 2009.01.13 20:49:04 UTC
1.00 CAD = 8,291,577.77 ZWD


If I convert over $20.00 in Canadian funds, I think I might be able to use the
Zimbabwe Dollars to keep the wood stove in my garage going through next
winter. I wonder If I could get the Zimbabwe Dollars in ones???
:lol:all that paper would at the least give you a chimney fire, but more likely burn the garage down!!
Rather use it as toilet paper!! No more Charmin for the rest of your life!:p
 

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Abducted MDC councillor sexually abused by army officer
Very cruel. Why do Blacks do this to other Blacks? I don't understand their crazy mentality.
Is there still no hope of Mugabe and his ZANU-GANG being ousted?
Instead of an answer:


Who is this dragon?
 

dancing-loon

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Instead of an answer:

I can't stand such useless women!! She should be stripped naked and driven with a whip through Harare! Or made to scrub the hospital floors!
In her way she is just as ruthless and evil as her husband. Neither of them has a sense of responsibility, compassion... not even shame. They are totally power- and glory-obsessed.
How much longer can this go on?
 

dancing-loon

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Last-ditch power talks resume in Zimbabwe

Story Highlights

  • African leaders try to end long-standing power-sharing dispute in Zimbabwe
  • Opposition MDC has been unable to reach a deal with President Mugabe
  • Mugabe says Monday's meeting is final one; will form government without MDC
  • Once-prosperous nation facing its worst economic and humanitarian crisis

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South African President Kgalema Motlanthe, chairman of the regional body SADC, traveled to Zimbabwe Monday with his predecessor, Mbeki, and Mozambique leader Armando Guebuza to try to resolve the impasse.

"Now is the time for finding common ground among Zimbabweans. It is time for flexibility, compromise, and pragmatism," Arthur Mutambara, deputy prime minister designate, told reporters.

"As opposition, we share and agreed with the demands made by MDC. We strongly support those demands and those demands must be addressed. We hope that Robert Mugabe and his party will be able to respond to those demands positively."

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Zimbabwe President Robert Mugabe, in a speech
to supporters Saturday, refused calls to step down

Last-ditch power talks resume in Zimbabwe - CNN.com
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What do you think, folks, will he be flexible? Does he look flexible? Does he act flexible?

Naw, I have no hopeful expectations. It will be more of the same.
 

dancing-loon

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Here is an update on the human rights activist Jestina Mukoko.
Harare:A top Zimbabwean human rights activist facing charges of recruiting people for insurgency training and terrorist bombings is a "threat to society" and must remain in custody, the country's attorney general said.

"Evidence proves that she (Mukoko) is a threat to society and she should not be released now," Attorney General Johannes Tomana told reporters, in comments printed Wednesday in the state-owned newspaper The Herald. "Any attorney general in the world would do what I am doing, given a case like the one involving Mukoko and others."
The activists deny the charges and claim they have been tortured during their detention.
Mukoko and the other suspects say they were improperly charged. They argue that they were kidnapped and eventually forced to admit to trying to topple President Robert Mugabe's government. Banditry is a charge that carries a death sentence in Zimbabwe.

Zimbabwe: Rights activist is 'threat to society' - CNN.com
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Of course, the AG acts on orders from Mugabe.

Not a rosy outlook for Mukoko. She stands in stark contrast to Grace Mugabe who plunders the country and rolls in luxury.

It probably will take a lot more to topple Mugabe than a handful of women.
 

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dancing-loon

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From your article:
The renewed farm evictions also come amid warlike demagoguery by
regime officials meant to frighten the remaining white farmers.

"There is nothing special about the 75 farmers and we will take more farms," Didymus Mutasa, the Land Reform minister has said. Government consistently repeats its mantra that: "It's not discrimination against the farmers, but it's correcting land imbalances," - despite the fact that the vast majority of lucrative commercial farms have been given to top civil service, military and judiciary officials, and other Mugabe gravy train hangers-on.
Naive as I am, I had no idea there were still white-owned farms left. I wouldn't want to be in their position!

Mugabe hates the white people and he hates his own black people, judging by the way he treats them.

Those tiny pockets of resistance to the regime, admirable as they are, are not enough to make a dent in Mugabe's power house, unless they roll into a giant snowball = an all out revolt.

Monday is over in Zimbabwe, I wonder how the meeting went.
 

dancing-loon

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Well, Monday's meeting went nowhere, except they are going to have another meeting coming Monday. Makes me wonder if they can be taken serious!

Tonight's news had some grim figures about the cholera death toll: more than 2700 are dead, another 50 000 suspected cases hanging in!! This crisis is man-made and the blame is squarely laid in front of Mugabe's door.

Look at this photo... what are these children doing there?


I guess the hospitals can hardly deal with the many sick people.


 

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It's been a long time since I contributed to this thread, but just now I saw in the headlines that there has been a fatal accident in Zimbabwe... a truck sideswiped the car Mr. Tsvangirai and his wife were riding in. She died on the scene - he survived and is in hospital with non-life threatening injuries.

Mr. Tsvangirai had just recently, after much harassment and political wrangling with brutal dictator Mugabe, become Prime Minister of the Unity Government of Zimbabwe in a power-sharing deal.

Zimbabwe PM hurt, wife killed in car crash

Zimbabwe PM hurt, wife killed in car crash: party - Yahoo! Canada News
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Of course, I harbor suspicions... but it is too early at this point to openly entertain them.
 

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Hi Loon,
Unfortunately even the African sister states want no part of this continuing saga. The death of the oppositin leaders wife now really brings some very serious questions to mind. 1) What really happened? 2) Who is investigating this death that is truly impartial? 3) Tribal and ethnic differences in that part of the world are centuries old and as we see the situation is not improving either. The paper tiger called the UN (that is the organiztion that sucks up Canadian and US monies anually) is either acting like its usual emasculated self OR they to are afraid to get involved. Either way this tragedy continues and it is a blood bath too. Right now as I see the UN is still practicing its usual approach and will never be an effective agent in that region other than to be a supplier of foodstuffs and mediacl supplies.
 

dancing-loon

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Hi Loon,
Unfortunately even the African sister states want no part of this continuing saga. The death of the oppositin leaders wife now really brings some very serious questions to mind. 1) What really happened? 2) Who is investigating this death that is truly impartial? 3) Tribal and ethnic differences in that part of the world are centuries old and as we see the situation is not improving either. The paper tiger called the UN (that is the organization that sucks up Canadian and US monies annually) is either acting like its usual emasculated self OR they too are afraid to get involved. Either way this tragedy continues and it is a blood bath too. Right now as I see the UN is still practicing its usual approach and will never be an effective agent in that region other than to be a supplier of foodstuffs and medical supplies.
Hi Norm;
foul play can be put aside, as Tsvangirai himself has rule it out.
A grieving Morgan Tsvangirai told supporters today that a car crash last Friday in which he was injured and his wife killed was an accident and not a set-up by Robert Mugabe's security forces. The Zimbabwean Prime Minister spoke to mourners outside his house in Harare after returning home from Botswana, where he went at the weekend for medical treatment after the crash.
ZWNEWS.com - linking the world to Zimbabwe

Mugabe attended a gathering of several hundred mourners saying...
“Political violence among our supporters must stop and we must work together to make sure that we have a good country and good lives for everybody.”
ZWNEWS.com - linking the world to Zimbabwe
Is he sincere? Did he have a change of heart? He has been the one behind the violence, the corruption and ruin of the country.

That paper tiger, the UN, can only be as effective as its members allow it to be!
 

dancing-loon

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Now Mugabe and his cohorts are getting worried!!

Mugabe Aides Said to Use Violence to Get Amnesty


President Robert Mugabe’s top lieutenants are trying to force the political opposition into granting them amnesty for their past crimes by abducting, detaining and torturing opposition officials and activists, according to senior members of Mr. Mugabe’s party.

Mr. Mugabe’s generals and politicians have organized campaigns of terror for decades to keep him and his party in power. But now that the opposition has a place in the nation’s new government, these strongmen worry that they are suddenly vulnerable to prosecution, especially for crimes committed during last year’s election campaign as the world watched.

To protect themselves, some of Mr. Mugabe’s lieutenants are trying to implicate opposition officials in a supposed plot to overthrow the president, hoping to use it as leverage in any amnesty talks or to press the opposition into quitting the government altogether, ruling party officials said.
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“We wanted to find out if it would be possible to have amnesty dating back to 1980s,” the official said. “The M.D.C. did not sound very forthcoming.”
Indeed, the opposition has so far offered no such assurances.

Full story here....
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/10/wo...ef=todayspaper
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Cowards!!! Just like Bush and his gang!
I hope the opposition will be steadfast and not give in.

 

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Zimbabwe is the best example for EQUALITY in the United Nations.

Robert Mugabe is the best example of an African "Leader".

Zimbabwe's economy is the best proof that colonialism was a failure.

Robert Mugabe is the best example for free and democratic elections.

Anyone who says differently is a RACIST BIGOT. PERIOD!