What is the most important issue in this election?

[Roy]

A two tiered system will inevitably take away from a public system, Caracal. The paid system would offer higher pay and more expensive facilities, attracting the best of the medical professionals.

are you sure about this, have you read about some of the systems in Europe that rank amongst the best in the world? are you sure Canada has the best health care system in the world?

 

[the caracal kid]

i think there we need to find a public/private solution to make services available to all and also allow for people to select what services they want. The current system does not work. However, its failures are not just in what it does and does not cover, or in the "waiting lists" for services but in the fact that it is a reactionary service. The public system should be a proactive component to healthcare, i.e. focused on healthy living rather than on sickness.

Why do you say that a private system would open us up to a US system?

 

[Reverend Blair]

are you sure about this, have you read about some of the systems in Europe that rank amongst the best in the world?

Those nations do not have the US as a neighbour, are not so susceptible to privatisation fever, and have not signed the NAFTA agreement with the US.

The current system does not work.

It worked fine until spending was cut. The system is failing because it, along with the education programs that create health care professionals, has been cut to the bone.

Why do you say that a private system would open us up to a US system?

NAFTA, political pressure, deep integration, corporate influence, groups like the Fraser Institute and the NCC.

 

[the caracal kid]

i don't think the system ever properly worked. I suspect that it appeared to work because money was being flushed down the drain to sustain the unsustainable. Our healthcare system is about doctors cranking as many people through per hour as possible to maximize billing and getting as many testing referals as possible to maximize billing rather than being about preventative care.

If we had a real public healthcare system, it would begin with the foods people eat and the lifestyles they lead. It would not wait for people to become sick so doctors can pump out tests and meds to maximize profits for those involved.

Crap, studies show what junk food, dairy, etc do to one's health, yet the government lets them pump their poisons for the tax profits. I just do not accept our restrictive, reactionary healthcare system. I am glad to pay for private care, because i would not count on the public system to be good for much more than stiching a cut or setting a broken bone. (should i mention i think doctors are nit-wits. sheesh, look at the studies that are available on the error levels of these "professionals" )

 

[Reverend Blair]

i don't think the system ever properly worked. I suspect that it appeared to work because money was being flushed down the drain to sustain the unsustainable.

When the system was working properly, it was costing less per capita than most other systems, including the one in the US.

Projections show that if funded properly under the Romanow plan, it would still be cheaper per capita than the US and several European plans.

Our healthcare system is about doctors cranking as many people through per hour as possible to maximize billing and getting as many testing referals as possible to maximize billing rather than being about preventative care.

Preventative care is part of the Romanow plan.

If we had a real public healthcare system, it would begin with the foods people eat and the lifestyles they lead.

Are you going to outlaw Big Macs? Are you institute mandatory exercise plans for office workers?

 

[the caracal kid]

no, we can't force people to eat certian ways or to exercise.

we can however encourage such behaviour through fees, education, planning, etc.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: What is the most impo

That's also part of the Romanow Plan.