What are we doing in Afghanistan?

Tyr

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BA in history???? I imagine the employment recruiters were breaking down your door. BA umeans getting drunk alot and pulling the fire alarm for kicks

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Iraqui deaths up to August 2008 have exceeded 1,000,000

I guess it must be just "a policing action"

Ummm, the majority of those Iraqi deaths (which are not really that high, but anyway....) were caused by who, exactly?

Oh yeah, those sandal wearing peasants you speak of. You know, the ones who figure fixing a water main or hydro line is akin to treason.

Also, a great many of those sandal wearing peasants are not Iraqi, but visitors to the country, fighting the grand jihad against Iraqi women and children.
 

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Ummm, the majority of those Iraqi deaths (which are not really that high, but anyway....)

...in realtion to what? The Tsunami? I guess 1,000,000 (give or take a few hundred thousand) is a mere pittance in the greater scheme if things - according to your warped way of justifying the war

How did the Bu****es tell the families of the killed Americans )at last count appraoching 7,000 including American civilians) that they died defending the "free" world against WMD?

Coalition deaths by country

USA: 4,124
UK: 176
Italy: 33
Poland: 23
Ukraine: 18
Bulgaria: 13
Spain: 11
Denmark: 7
El Salvador: 5
Georgia: 5
Slovakia: 4
Latvia: 3
Romania: 3
Australia: 2
Estonia: 2
Netherlands: 2
Thailand: 2
Azerbaijan: 1
Czech Republic: 1
Hungary: 1
South Korea: 1

TOTAL: 4,438

And that's just the ones that make the papers.


An April 2005 article by The Independent reports:
"A week before she was killed by a suicide bomber, humanitarian worker Marla Ruzicka forced military commanders to admit they did keep records of Iraqi civilians killed by US forces. ... in an essay Ms Ruzicka wrote a week before her death on Saturday and published yesterday, the 28-year-old revealed that a Brigadier General told her it was 'standard operating procedure' for US troops to file a report when they shoot a non-combatant. She obtained figures for the number of civilians killed in Baghdad between 28 February and 5 April [2005], and discovered that 29 had been killed in firefights involving US forces and insurgents. This was four times the number of Iraqi police killed." The December 2006 report of the Iraq Study Group (ISG) found that the United States has filtered out reports of violence in order to disguise its policy failings in Iraq.[107] A December 7, 2006 McClatchy Newspapers article[107] reports that the ISG found that U.S. officials reported 93 attacks or significant acts of violence on one day in July 2006, yet "a careful review of the reports for that single day brought to light more than 1,100 acts of violence." The article further reports:
"The finding confirmed a Sept. 8 McClatchy Newspapers report that U.S. officials excluded scores of people killed in car bombings and mortar attacks from tabulations measuring the results of a drive to reduce violence in Baghdad. By excluding that data, U.S. officials were able to boast that deaths from sectarian violence in the Iraqi capital had declined by more than 52 percent between July and August, McClatchy newspapers reported." From the ISG report itself: "A murder of an Iraqi is not necessarily counted as an attack. If we cannot determine the source of a sectarian attack, that assault does not make it into the database. A roadside bomb or a rocket or mortar attack that doesn't hurt U.S. personnel doesn't count."[107]
According to Project Censored, the undercounting and underreporting of Iraqi casualties has led to a widespread belief among the United States public that very few Iraqis have been killed, with an average "estimate" of under 10,000 reported by an Associated Press poll in February, 2007. [66] This survey was, itself, not reported in the mass media, even by the Associated Press.
 

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Also, a great many of those sandal wearing peasants are not Iraqi, but visitors to the country, fighting the grand jihad against Iraqi women and children.

Really??? How many? 2, 10, 100, 1000. Can you give me a number and a source for your exhaustive data? Or are you just blowing smoke up my a**?
 

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...in realtion to what? The Tsunami? I guess 1,000,000 (give or take a few hundred thousand) is a mere pittance in the greater scheme if things - according to your warped way of justifying the war

Ummm, in relation to the actual number of deaths.

Nice try at deflection, though. :lol:
 

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Also, a great many of those sandal wearing peasants are not Iraqi, but visitors to the country, fighting the grand jihad against Iraqi women and children.

Really??? How many? 2, 10, 100, 1000. Can you give me a number and a source for your exhaustive data? Or are you just blowing smoke up my a**?

What's the difference if it's 2, 10, 100, 1000 or 1,000,000? What's your point? Are you saying there are no foreign jihadi's in Iraq? You really need me to point you to evidence that there are foreign jihadi's in Iraq? If so, there's no point even discussing the issue with you until you get yourself up to speed. May I recommend Google.
 

Tyr

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What's the difference if it's 2, 10, 100, 1000 or 1,000,000? What's your point? Are you saying there are no foreign jihadi's in Iraq? You really need me to point you to evidence that there are foreign jihadi's in Iraq? If so, there's no point even discussing the issue with you until you get yourself up to speed.

That's not even a "good" attempt at deflection. If you don't know what you're posting about or you're just pulling crap out of thin air, just admit it and move on

Nobody will think less of you than they already do