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The United Nations said Monday it has fired nine staff members from its agency for Palestinian refugees, known as UNRWA, after an internal investigation found they “May” (?) have been involved in the Hamas-led October 7 attack against Israel?
The UN secretary-general’s office announced the move in a brief statement to journalists Monday. It did not elaborate on the UNRWA staffers’ likely role in the attack. It said the nine included seven staffers who were fired previously over the claims.

“We have sufficient information in order to take the actions that we’re taking — which is to say, the termination of these nine individuals,” UN spokesman Farhan Haq said.

Haq was speaking after the UN’s oversight body completed its investigation into the allegations earlier this year by Israel that a total of 19 UNRWA employees may have been involved in the attack in which Hamas fighters killed 1,200 people and abducted some 250 others.

That prompted many governments, including Canada and top donor the United States, to suspend funding to the agency, threatening its efforts to deliver aid in Gaza. Canada and several countries have since resumed payments.
June did it.
 

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Gerald Steinberg, president of Jerusalem-based think tank NGO Monitor, told The Toronto Sun the number of UNRWA employees who hold membership in organizations like Hamas is much higher.

“There needs to be a serious, independent investigation,” he said.

“But at the same time, the fact they admitted there are nine people on staff directly related to terrorism is historic — and perhaps should lead to a more careful and professional policy for donor countries such as Canada.”

One of the world’s biggest donors to UNRWA, Canada followed-suit with the United States earlier this year in suspending funding when the allegations were first made.

Canada promptly resumed funding soon after, in time to make its quarterly installment of a $100 million funding pledge to UNRWA. Never missed a payment.

Israeli intelligence provided to The National Post in April suggest as many as 2,135 UNRWA employees are also members of Palestinian terror organizations, with over three-quarters belonging to Hamas.

“Israel has given the UN an additional list of at least 100 UNRWA employees who moonlight as Hamas operatives,” he said.
“Canada’s one of the largest funders of UNRWA, with over $200 million provided since 2016, when Trudeau resumed funding after Harper cut it,” Steinberg said, recalling pledges to be diligent the money wouldn’t support terror.

If the UN truly wanted a humanitarian ceasefire, it would have helped if it had discouraged its employees from taking part in the aggression that triggered the hostility in the first place. Now, they should encourage Hamas to return the hostages, thus paving the way for an end to hostilities.

Sure, they’ve fired those employees, but it seems UNRWA was a festering cauldron of Hamas sympathizers before Oct. 7.

The UN has consistently failed to condemn Hamas for the terror, yet it explicitly condemned Israel in an Oct. 26 resolution.

And Canadian taxpayers are funding that hypocrisy.
 

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Gerald Steinberg, president of Jerusalem-based think tank NGO Monitor, told The Toronto Sun the number of UNRWA employees who hold membership in organizations like Hamas is much higher.

“There needs to be a serious, independent investigation,” he said.

There will NEVER be a 'serious, independent investigation' good enough for people who don't want there to be. That's just the reality.
 

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There will NEVER be a 'serious, independent investigation' good enough for people who don't want there to be. That's just the reality.
I think it all comes down to the definition of independent. How independent does independent have to be (?) vs we have investigated ourselves and found ourselves innocent type stuff that we’ve all become accustomed to.
 
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The United Nations said Monday it has fired nine staff members from its agency for Palestinian refugees, known as UNRWA, after an internal investigation found they “May” (?) have been involved in the Hamas-led October 7 attack against Israel?
The UN’s Office of Internal Oversight Services, an independent office within the UN Secretariat, stated in an Aug. 5 news release that it investigated a grand total of “19 area UNRWA staff members.” In the case of nine UNRWA employees, “the evidence — if authenticated and corroborated — could indicate that the UNRWA staff members may have been involved in the attacks of 7 October.” The agency closed nine other cases due to “insufficient” evidence. And, in one case, “no evidence was obtained” and the individual “rejoined the Agency.”
Haq was speaking after the UN’s oversight body completed its investigation into the allegations earlier this year by Israel that a total of 19 UNRWA employees may have been involved in the attack in which Hamas fighters killed 1,200 people and abducted some 250 others.
The investigation only reportedly focused on a small group of 19 individuals. This means the agency seemingly disregarded or ignored “detailed information” provided by Israel in July that identified 108 UNRWA employees who were linked to either Hamas or Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
Israeli intelligence provided to The National Post in April suggest as many as 2,135 UNRWA employees are also members of Palestinian terror organizations, with over three-quarters belonging to Hamas.
So in the last 10 months, the UN investigation of UNRWA and found maybe 9 members “May” have been involved, but their involvement is confidential, etc…
Gerald Steinberg, president of Jerusalem-based think tank NGO Monitor, told The Toronto Sun the number of UNRWA employees who hold membership in organizations like Hamas is much higher.
Meanwhile, the Israel Defense Forces uncovered what the Times of Israel described on Feb. 10 as a “subterranean data centre” underneath UNRWA’s headquarters in an upscale Gaza neighbourhood. A formal search of this tunnel revealed “an electrical room, industrial battery power banks and living quarters for Hamas terrorists operating the computer servers.” Inside the headquarters were “Grenades, rockets, launchers, explosives, a large amount of weapons that would put any Hamas company to shame,” said IDF commander Col. Benny Aharon during a media tour of the tunnel and complex.

In a Feb. 10 X post, UNRWA Commissioner-General Philippe Lazzarini wrote that the agency “did not know what is under its headquarters in Gaza.” To which the Israeli defence bureau for Palestinian civil affairs, the Coordination of Government Activities in the Territories, responded, “Oh, you knew.… You chose to ignore the facts so you can later try and deny them.”

ally be chalked up to ignorance or lack of awareness is clearly smoking the hopium. “There is no doubt that UNRWA staff knew that (Hamas) was digging a massive tunnel beneath them,” Aharon told reporters. “There’s a perimeter wall, a gate, cameras, at the gate they log who comes in and out. Whoever worked at UNRWA knew very well who was coming in, and who they were covering for.”

Nevertheless, Israel did its due diligence and provided UNRWA with information that a large group of its employees were tied in some fashion to terrorist organizations.

UNRWA launched a probe of seven of its employees in January, and 12 further employees in March. The agency announced that some employees had been fired on Jan. 26.

“Any UNRWA employee who was involved in acts of terror will be held accountable, including through criminal prosecution,” Lazzarini said in a Feb. 8 statement.

Although UNRWA has never confirmed the number of employees it has fired, Lazzarini’s statement did note that, “Of the 12 people implicated, UNRWA immediately identified and terminated the contracts of 10, another two are confirmed dead.”
There will NEVER be a 'serious, independent investigation' good enough for people who don't want there to be. That's just the reality.
The UN’s Office of Internal Oversight Services, an independent office within the UN Secretariat, stated in an Aug. 5 news release that it investigated a grand total of “19 area UNRWA staff members.”

What about the large group of UNRWA employees identified by Israel’s Foreign Ministry as having possible terrorist links? It appears that absolutely nothing was done in this respect. That’s why Gilad Erdan, Israel’s ambassador to the UN, correctly called the Office of Internal Oversight Services investigation “a disgrace.”
 

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The UN’s Office of Internal Oversight Services, an independent office within the UN Secretariat, stated in an Aug. 5 news release that it investigated a grand total of “19 area UNRWA staff members.” In the case of nine UNRWA employees, “the evidence — if authenticated and corroborated — could indicate that the UNRWA staff members may have been involved in the attacks of 7 October.” The agency closed nine other cases due to “insufficient” evidence. And, in one case, “no evidence was obtained” and the individual “rejoined the Agency.”

The investigation only reportedly focused on a small group of 19 individuals. This means the agency seemingly disregarded or ignored “detailed information” provided by Israel in July that identified 108 UNRWA employees who were linked to either Hamas or Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

So in the last 10 months, the UN investigation of UNRWA and found maybe 9 members “May” have been involved, but their involvement is confidential, etc…

Meanwhile, the Israel Defense Forces uncovered what the Times of Israel described on Feb. 10 as a “subterranean data centre” underneath UNRWA’s headquarters in an upscale Gaza neighbourhood. A formal search of this tunnel revealed “an electrical room, industrial battery power banks and living quarters for Hamas terrorists operating the computer servers.” Inside the headquarters were “Grenades, rockets, launchers, explosives, a large amount of weapons that would put any Hamas company to shame,” said IDF commander Col. Benny Aharon during a media tour of the tunnel and complex.

In a Feb. 10 X post, UNRWA Commissioner-General Philippe Lazzarini wrote that the agency “did not know what is under its headquarters in Gaza.” To which the Israeli defence bureau for Palestinian civil affairs, the Coordination of Government Activities in the Territories, responded, “Oh, you knew.… You chose to ignore the facts so you can later try and deny them.”

ally be chalked up to ignorance or lack of awareness is clearly smoking the hopium. “There is no doubt that UNRWA staff knew that (Hamas) was digging a massive tunnel beneath them,” Aharon told reporters. “There’s a perimeter wall, a gate, cameras, at the gate they log who comes in and out. Whoever worked at UNRWA knew very well who was coming in, and who they were covering for.”

Nevertheless, Israel did its due diligence and provided UNRWA with information that a large group of its employees were tied in some fashion to terrorist organizations.

UNRWA launched a probe of seven of its employees in January, and 12 further employees in March. The agency announced that some employees had been fired on Jan. 26.

“Any UNRWA employee who was involved in acts of terror will be held accountable, including through criminal prosecution,” Lazzarini said in a Feb. 8 statement.

Although UNRWA has never confirmed the number of employees it has fired, Lazzarini’s statement did note that, “Of the 12 people implicated, UNRWA immediately identified and terminated the contracts of 10, another two are confirmed dead.”

The UN’s Office of Internal Oversight Services, an independent office within the UN Secretariat, stated in an Aug. 5 news release that it investigated a grand total of “19 area UNRWA staff members.”

What about the large group of UNRWA employees identified by Israel’s Foreign Ministry as having possible terrorist links? It appears that absolutely nothing was done in this respect. That’s why Gilad Erdan, Israel’s ambassador to the UN, correctly called the Office of Internal Oversight Services investigation “a disgrace.”
"if authenticated and corroborated"
 

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Who’s in charge of that? The UN? UNRWA? The Hamas run Gaza Health Ministry? We’ve investigated ourselves and found ourselves 99.8% innocent?
If a sure thing why do the claims still need to be authenticated and corroborate? I'm only quoting what was posted.
 

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If a sure thing why do the claims still need to be authenticated and corroborate? I'm only quoting what was posted.
Israeli intelligence provided to The National Post in April suggest as many as 2,135 UNRWA employees are also members of Palestinian terror organizations, with over three-quarters belonging to Hamas.
So in the last 10 months, the UN investigation of UNRWA and found maybe 9 members “May” have been involved, but their involvement is confidential, etc…
The UN’s Office of Internal Oversight Services, an independent office within the UN Secretariat, stated in an Aug. 5 news release that it investigated a grand total of “19 area UNRWA staff members.”
So at this pace…if they’ve (the UN) in 10 months investigated 19 UNRWA people, so roughly an average of two/month…

(2135 - 19 = 2116 /2per month = 1058months = 88+years = Fall of 2112 or so, baring delays, etc…the U.N. Internal Oversight Services, an independent office within the UN Secretariat…could potentially self-investigate the list provided to the National Post by Israeli intelligence in April 2024)

Whose job is it to authenticated and corroborate anyway? Suggestions?
 

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Israeli intelligence provided to The National Post in April suggest as many as 2,135 UNRWA employees are also members of Palestinian terror organizations, with over three-quarters belonging to Hamas.


So at this pace…if they’ve (the UN) in 10 months investigated 19 UNRWA people, so roughly an average of two/month…

(2135 - 19 = 2116 /2per month = 1058months = 88+years = Fall of 2112 or so, baring delays, etc…the U.N. Internal Oversight Services, an independent office within the UN Secretariat…could potentially self-investigate the list provided to the National Post by Israeli intelligence in April 2024)

Whose job is it to authenticated and corroborate anyway? Suggestions?
Definitely not Israel or the National Post. Israel can propaganda to try to have aid cut all it wants but it ain't gonna happen.

 

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They need a stronger union. It's none of my boss's damn business what I do on my own time.
Once Hamas is defeated, the next step is deradicalization, that could take “a decades-long” process. “But it cannot start until you get the radicalizer out.”

One of those purges should be United Nations Relief Works Agency (UNRWA), that to his mind is anti-Israel. “There is enough data” to show how the NGO and Hamas have a symbiotic relationship. “You can’t have someone working in Gaza without Hamas accepting it,” he said, also noting how UNRWA schoolbooks preach incitement against Jews.

With the discovery of Hamas tunnels beneath UNRWA facilities, including a substantive data centre, “that alone – UNRWA has to justify it. Explain how a number of employees were involved in Oct. 7. Explain the number of UNRWA facilities where Hamas has turned into military headquarters.”

“That they refuse to answer any of those questions” would be enough to necessitate putting funding “on hold until we conduct an investigation.” It should be enough for Canada to insist “where’s the money going?” rather than re-instating the $25 million handout, as did on March 8.

Hamas has been clear about what it wants, and what it doesn’t want – in addition to what they’ve been silent about, he said.

“They’ve never said that they want the release of all the (Palestinian) prisoners in Israel, and that means they’ll turn a new leaf. They’ve never said that they want a two state solution. They’ve never said that they want self-determination or they want human rights or they want equality. They’ve never said that. The only thing they’ve ever said is ‘we want the destruction of Israel and the death of Jews around the world.’”
 
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Here’s something strange. Apparently the UN is having some kind of vote on Thursday.
Why I’m only finding this coming out of Australia I have no idea but…
Following the acceptance of the State of Palestine into the UN in June – which Australia supported – the nation has put forward its first motion.

The eight-page draft has called for Israel to “end without delay its unlawful presence in the Occupied Palestinian Territory”.

Key provisions included a complete and unconditional withdrawal from Gaza, evacuation of Israeli settlers from the West Bank and reparations for Palestinians.

Palestine also demanded sanctions and travel bans on Israelis linked to the occupation and a ban on weapons sales to Tel Aviv.

Australia and other UN states were called upon to realise the “right of the Palestinian people to self-determination”.

The US has since strongly condemned the draft resolution and urged its allies to reject – or at least abstain – from voting on the resolution when it’s put forward on Thursday.

The resolution has omitted any reference to Hamas or its recent terrorist attack on Israel. There was also no recognition of hostages still held by Hamas in Gaza.
How is this seemingly only newsworthy in Australia? It’s all about the US pressuring Australia to vote against this? Pretty much no mention of this anywhere else that’s easily found? This is pretty weird…
 
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Sounds like the Red Cross

Following the attack on its staff, the International Committee of the Red Cross will cease operations of its Dnipro headquarters. Details: According to Vlasenko, the delegation intends to update its safety guidelines.Sep 13, 2024

https://www.pravda.com.ua › 2024/09/13

Red Cross to suspend work in Dnipro after attack on its staff



Protests against Red Cross have been going on for 18ish months.

What's up with the disorganizations?
 
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It doesn’t sound like UNRWA is overly concerned with the individuals involved in the Oct 7th invasion of Israel, or those involved in holding hostages in the 11 months since, etc…but more concerned with being sued themselves directly for being complicit with Hamas.
 

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It doesn’t sound like UNRWA is overly concerned with the individuals involved in the Oct 7th invasion of Israel, or those involved in holding hostages in the 11 months since, etc…but more concerned with being sued themselves directly for being complicit with Hamas.
With a global consensus that Israel needs to go on industrial strength meds, why on Earth would the UN or anyone else do anything to benefit Israel? They shit the bed.