Trudeau Mania Two is Starting to Fade

[gopher]

Captain,

Honestly gopher, I understand that you have a very limited interest in CDN politics, but surely, even in your neck of the woods, you must have seen some coverage of trudeau since he was elected.

Tec,


Nope, sorry. Most Americans have no idea who the Prime Minister of Canada

Tec is correct. Yanks don't know or even give the slightest sh!t about Canadian politics. It's just not covered by our news sources. If it wasn't for CC, I would have no idea what the hell is going on political wise up in the Northlands. Except for some pro sports and some really good entertainers that you have there, most Yanks do not have the slightest clue as to what is going on there.

 

[Jinentonix]

Tec is correct. Yanks don't know or even give the slightest sh!t about Canadian politics. It's just not covered by our news sources. If it wasn't for CC, I would have no idea what the hell is going on political wise up in the Northlands. Except for some pro sports and some really good entertainers that you have there, most Yanks do not have the slightest clue as to what is going on there.

Most Yanks haven't got the slightest clue what's happening anywhere outside of the US.

 

[JLM]

Honestly gopher, I understand that you have a very limited interest in CDN politics, but surely, even in your neck of the woods, you must have seen some coverage of trudeau since he was elected.

To tell you the truth Cap't. the only Canadian news I've ever got while visiting the U.S. many times is the N.H.L. or the Blue Jays. Trudeau would be a nobody down there. I would guess 2/3 of them down there have never heard of him.

 

[Murphy]

Except in Florida and parts of Arizona in the winter. Lots of Canadians in those places when it's cold up here.

 

[captain morgan]

Tec is correct. Yanks don't know or even give the slightest sh!t about Canadian politics.

Again, that's really too bad that you folks missed-out on the trudeau shenanigans... As a non-Canadian, you would have laughed your nuts off

It's just not covered by our news sources. If it wasn't for CC, I would have no idea what the hell is going on political wise up in the Northlands.

Canada is a bit-player on the international stage... Hell, there are only a handful of nations that are 'regulars' in terms of international news makers

Except for some pro sports and some really good entertainers that you have there, most Yanks do not have the slightest clue as to what is going on there.

Sadly, Stompin' Tom Connors passed away.

The only thing that was left was Celine Dion and thankfully, she makes her home in your nation.

... Sorry 'bout that by the way

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[Murphy]

I have a hard time looking at Celine.

 

[Mowich]

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau expected to exonerate Tsilhqot'in chiefs hanged in 1864

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is expected on Monday to exonerate six B.C. First Nations chiefs convicted of murdering white colonists more than 150 years ago in pre-Confederation British Columbia.

"We'll be in Ottawa on Monday, March 26, with the prime minister to have a statement acknowledging the wrong that was done to us many years ago," the Tsilhqot'in National Government, the tribal council, said in a video posted on their Facebook page.

A press release sent from the office of Crown-Indigenous Relations Minister Carolyn Bennett said Trudeau would make a statement in the House of Commons.

In 1864, five Tsilhqot'in chiefs were called to what they thought were peace talks to end the Chilcotin War.

Instead, they were accused of massacring 14 members of a road-building party and were then tried, convicted and hanged.

'No form of guilt'

Five of the chiefs were executed, under Crown authority, near the settlement of Quesnel, B.C., in the province's interior. A sixth chief was later hanged near Westminster, B.C., after trying to offer reparations.

The chiefs opposed the construction of roads to gold-rich lands, and sought to stop the incursion into their traditional territory.

There are also allegations that the road-building crew took some Tsilhqot'in women hostage.

The prime minister is expected to "let everything go, meaning there's no form of guilt on behalf of the Tsilhqot'in in any way, shape or form," said Chief Joe Alphonse.

"The first order of business is to exonerate our war chiefs and then we'll get to work to bring back our lands as they were before contact [by European settlers]. It's time for Canada to step up to the plate," he said.

The Tsilhqot'in have long objected to the chiefs being tried as criminals, saying the killing of the colonists was carried out during a war between the First Nations and the colonial authority in B.C.

In 2014, B.C. Premier Christy Clark also fully exonerated the chiefs of any wrongdoing.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau expected to exonerate Tsilhqot'in chiefs hanged in 1864 - Politics - CBC News

Make of this what you will.

 

[Murphy]

:roll:

It's a cheap way to get votes. No one is alive, and it will give many people the warm fuzzies. God forbid the government should worry about business or governing the country.

 

[Twin_Moose]

Paves the way for the 1700 km2 land settlement

 

[captain morgan]

Probably the best way to go

 

[Twin_Moose]

Yep an apology and a full pardon will show that the settlers had no right to travel, settle and mine on the land in question because the First Canadian's never gave permission or made a deal to do so. Opening the door to a big cash settlement and return the disputed land to them.

 

[captain morgan]

Yep an apology and a full pardon will show that the settlers had no right to travel, settle and mine on the land in question because the First Canadian's never gave permission or made a deal to do so. Opening the door to a big cash settlement and return the disputed land to them.

Where did the 'First Nation's' come from and what other FN groups were displaced at various times?

... If you want to travel down this rabbit hole, you had better be prepared to recognize that there will only be 1 FN... The rest will all be in the same boat as a new immigrant that comes to Canada today

 

[Twin_Moose]

Where did the 'First Nation's' come from and what other FN groups were displaced at various times?

... If you want to travel down this rabbit hole, you had better be prepared to recognize that there will only be 1 FN... The rest will all be in the same boat as a new immigrant that comes to Canada today

B.C. Supreme court opened the rabbit hole JT is about to blow it wide open on Monday, I don't agree with it at all.

 

[captain morgan]

IF this issue goes the distance, it will require real definitions and understandings in terms of identity, timing, lands, etc. Oral tradition won't be cutting it at this point, they will be seeking archeological evidence as the fundamental basis. Add to this, there will likely be a calculation of the kind of support that has been provided to date and the math will be the math.

Take a look at groups like the Mohawks... They won't qualify as a FN (equal to the Dene for example) and if the Mohawk get some kind of special recognition, the next logical step will be for any family/group from Europe that immigrated in the 1800s or early 1900s

 

[Twin_Moose]

I hope your right, I wouldn't bet on it in today's P.C. Canada

 

[captain morgan]

It won't be up to gvt at that point.

Once the door is opened, anyone regardless of ancestry can try and walk through.

 

[Twin_Moose]

Ethics loophole keeps Aga Khan's gifts to Trudeau family secret

An apparent loophole in the federal government's ethics rules may prevent Canadians from ever knowing what gifts Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his family received from the Aga Khan during their controversial vacation on his private island in the Bahamas, CBC News has learned.

Trudeau's office says he doesn't have to tell Canadians about the Christmas gifts he and the Aga Khan exchanged because he told the Canada's ethics commissioner. However, the ethics commissioner's office says information about those gifts won't be listed in its public registry because Trudeau accepted an unacceptable gift from the Aga Khan.
"The public registry generally includes only acceptable gifts within the meaning of section 11 of the Act," said Margot Booth, a spokeswoman for the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner's office.
"Unacceptable gifts do not trigger the Act's disclosure requirement and would likely be addressed in an examination, as was the case with Mr. Trudeau's vacation stay on the Aga Khan's private island."
The examination by former ethics commissioner Mary Dawson found that Trudeau violated Canada's ethics rules when he and his family accepted the Aga Khan's invitation to vacation over the Christmas holidays in December 2016 on Bell Island in the Bahamas, also known as Bells Cay. Dawson ruled that the trip was an unacceptable gift because the Aga Khan had dealings with the federal government, and Trudeau's relationship with him was not close enough to qualify as a friendship.
Dawson's report also revealed that Trudeau and his family exchanged gifts with the Aga Khan but did not disclose the nature or the value of the gifts.
"From December 26, 2016 to January 4, 2017, Mr. Trudeau and his family, and their friends spent their Christmas holidays on Bells Cay along with the Aga Khan, his children and their families," Dawson wrote. "The Trudeau family exchanged Christmas gifts with the Aga Khan and his family."
Beyond that, though, little is known about the gifts that the Aga Khan — a billionaire and leader of the world's Ismaili Muslims — gave Canada's prime minister.
Officials with the Aga Khan referred questions from CBC News to the prime minister's office. The prime minister's office referred questions from CBC News to the ethics commissioner's office.
Trudeau is also refusing to tell Parliament.
"The prime minister disclosed any gifts to the conflict of Interest and ethics commissioner as part of her examination," the Prime Minister's Office wrote in its answer to an order paper question posed by Conservative MP Kevin Waugh.
"Following the commissioner's report, which is publicly available, the prime minister accepted its findings and followed all of the commissioner's recommendations and will continue to do so."
The ethics commissioner's office won't disclose the nature or the value of the gifts, saying it can't reveal anything beyond what Dawson put in her report.
Officials in the ethics commissioner's office acknowledge that there are limits to what they can do when a member of Parliament accepts an unacceptable gift.

"The Conflict of Interest Act does not provide for any measures to be taken when gifts have been found to be unacceptable following an examination," said Booth. "The only direct result of an examination report is shedding light on the activity examined."
Nor does the ethics commissioner have the power to order that an unacceptable gift be repaid or returned.
Testifying before parliamentary committee earlier this year, Dawson's successor Mario Dion suggested he be given that power.
"As it stands, I have no power to make recommendations in my examination reports, including the power to recommend that an improper gift be repaid," he told MPs.
"As suggested during my appearance before the committee, I believe that the committee should consider giving me the power to make relevant recommendations in my reports. Such recommendations would be specific to each situation, including recommending that individuals reimburse the value of gifts improperly accepted."
Conservative MP Peter Kent said the situation reveals "a gap" in the ethics reporting protocol and called on Trudeau to disclose the Aga Khan's gifts to Canadians.
"There continue to be some very serious questions about whether or not a gift of significant value was received by the prime minister and why it hasn't been reported one way or another on the public registry."
The Prime Minister's Office refused to say what happened to the gifts and whether Trudeau kept, returned, repaid or for‎feited them to the Crown.

 

[Hoid]

Yep an apology and a full pardon will show that the settlers had no right to travel, settle and mine on the land in question because the First Canadian's never gave permission or made a deal to do so. Opening the door to a big cash settlement and return the disputed land to them.

Its unfortunate but people need to be responsible for their actions.

 

[Twin_Moose]

Its unfortunate but people need to be responsible for their actions.

And they were now hindsight justice is being served

 

[pgs]

Ethics loophole keeps Aga Khan's gifts to Trudeau family secret

Another entitled Liberal entitled to his entitlements . Why are Liberals and Democrats always so greedy ?