Truck driver charged in Bronco's crash.

JLM

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If you had the deaths of 16 people on your back would you not want emotional and mental help?

If it were me, it would rot my soul and I'd question my so called privelege of surviving.

I'd be wanting to string myself up with a shower curtain.


I guess it depends a bit on the cause, if he had deliberately broken the law as my son has heard through grapevine, it would be much worse than had he merely not seen the stop sign or possibly dozed off at the wheel.
 

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Whatever the reason for him failing to stop at the stop sign, I would not want to be in his shoes at all. He made a stupid decision, (whatever the circumstances) and now he'll have to live with it. I can understand the suicide watch. What I don't understand is why people are not taking the rule of law more seriously - speeding, blowing through stop signs, carelessness in texting etc., - they are there for a reason. Then when something like this happens, they are dumb-founded that it happened. What did they expect?


I have such a guilt complex that I'd likely commit suicide. I can't imagine hurting 1 human being much less 29! My fear has always been hitting a pedestrian while driving whether it was my fault or not so I try to be extra vigilant especially when pedestrians are around.


JMHO


I can't imagine what his life will be like from now on.
 

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Whatever the reason for him failing to stop at the stop sign, I would not want to be in his shoes at all. He made a stupid decision, (whatever the circumstances) and now he'll have to live with it. I can understand the suicide watch. What I don't understand is why people are not taking the rule of law more seriously - speeding, blowing through stop signs, carelessness in texting etc., - they are there for a reason. Then when something like this happens, they are dumb-founded that it happened. What did they expect?


I have such a guilt complex that I'd likely commit suicide. I can't imagine hurting 1 human being much less 29! My fear has always been hitting a pedestrian while driving whether it was my fault or not so I try to be extra vigilant especially when pedestrians are around.


JMHO


I can't imagine what his life will be like from now on.

My sentiment exactly Dixie, but I guess we all know people who honestly think the consequences of breaking the law don't apply to them. On the other side of the coin some think that punishment should be commensurate to the damage done. I don't agree with that either. I think if he honestly didn't see the stop sign or perhaps dozed off at the wheel the penalty should be less than if he was using the cell phone. Deliberately breaking the law is not excusable.
 

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I'm pretty sure this guy didn't set out to kill anyone on that fateful morning. He had two weeks truck driving experience. If we want to prevent future tragedies that can be attributed to lack of experience, the prudent thing would be to bring a regulatory process that doesn't put someone behind the wheel of a rig without proper training and mentoring.
 

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I'm pretty sure this guy didn't set out to kill anyone on that fateful morning. He had two weeks truck driving experience. If we want to prevent future tragedies that can be attributed to lack of experience, the prudent thing would be to bring a regulatory process that doesn't put someone behind the wheel of a rig without proper training and mentoring.

We need a National level of competency. Right now it's Province by Province and you are a racist if you demand more than another Province.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Winnipeg/comments/75yus4/sikh_truck_drivers_alleging_racial_discrimination/
 

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I'm pretty sure this guy didn't set out to kill anyone on that fateful morning. He had two weeks truck driving experience. If we want to prevent future tragedies that can be attributed to lack of experience, the prudent thing would be to bring a regulatory process that doesn't put someone behind the wheel of a rig without proper training and mentoring.


That is a huge factor for sure in my estimation. Until the trial is underway we don't know the full extent of what happened. One other possible dimension would be cell phone use. Of course no amount of training and experience will compensate for diminished mentality.
 

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On the Manitoba issue of getting Class 1 testing etc., these gentlemen need to know that it wasn't racism that delayed the request for them to re-certify - it was government bureaucracy! Government's do not move quickly but once they get their teeth into something (i.e. people looking for ways to get around something), they won't let go. I would bet that if it was anyone else (i.e. white, black, purple etc. etc.) that did the same thing by trying to get around a process, they would have, and likely received, the same letter.
 

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All the training in the world won't help if either report is true he blew a stop sign or proceeded before safe to do so because of distracted driving (cell phone). They are both basic road laws from pedestrian walking through to B-train operating.

The question I would be asking is he being payed by the hour or by the mile/km, if it is the later there is the problem trying to make more money in less time.
 

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All the training in the world won't help if either report is true he blew a stop sign or proceeded before safe to do so because of distracted driving (cell phone). They are both basic road laws from pedestrian walking through to B-train operating.

The question I would be asking is he being payed by the hour or by the mile/km, if it is the later there is the problem trying to make more money in less time.


It will if you train him properly.
As to what you asked about being paid. Likely paid by the kilometer. I work by the hour, but fewer companies are paying that way these days.


The problem began with the fly-by-night company he was running for. No reputable company would throw a guy with two weeks experience behind the wheel without a trainer beside them. Most have phone policies and almost all are on E-Log now, that includes speed limit sensors, hard braking, hours of service warnings.


Training goes a long way, especially if the trainer is like some of the ones I've met over the years.
 
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