That is a lie. You do not consider Palestine "as bad as" Israel. That is very obvious in your one sided condemnation.
Do you want a cookie?
No, thanks. I don't know what you're babbling about.Sorry, you can't justify the '48 and the '67 attack on Israel on their policy in the west bank. Do try again.
Seized land outside the UN recognized boundaries.
Negotiated in bad faith and violated negotiated agreements.
Discriminated against Palestinians inside Israel, including committing war crimes against them.
By the way, I agree with you and gerryh (except for the lame-ass whataboutery). I just don't pretend Israel is pure as the driven snow.
That basically confirms what I said. Your condemnation is one sided, your support is overwhelming in favourite of Palestine and the Arab countries.
Excellent argument. I'll keep it in mind when we annex parts of Canada.Nope, won land through spoils of war, after being attacked. IMO, Israel should never have returned the land they annexed.
Asked and answered.Link.
Destroying the houses of "terrorists," punishing the innocent along with the guilty. War crime.Again, link.
Excellent argument. I'll keep it in mind when we annex parts of Canada.
Asked and answered.
Destroying the houses of "terrorists," punishing the innocent along with the guilty. War crime.
Unsurprising, all things considered. I'll see if I can make it simple for you.
Israel has the right to exist within secure borders. This is the right of any nation-state, and Israel's right is, if anything, superior to that of other nation-states, being the only nation-state whose existence was ratified by the only organization having even a shaky claim to speak for the world.
That does not mean everything they take it into their heads to do is above question or criticism.
Nah, it just means you posted up where I've posted on Israeli threads and said Israel is doing bad shyte.
You didn't read any of it to see that despite that, I say Israel is just as bad as Palestine.
I don't favour Palestine OR Arab Countries. Far from it.
But I also don't absolve the Israeli state from being culpable for it's own brand of terroristic activities unlike some.
Bullshit. From all your posts, you criticize Israel with no criticism of surrounding Arab States or Palestine. The closest you come is when pushed, you will say what you said above, Israel is as bad as Palestine. When it's brought up that the wars fought by Israel have been because of aggression by their neighbour's, you ignore.
This is a subject that has been beaten to death. Not only are there dozens of vocals groups that go on to college campuses, city streets, etc. in the name of Palestine (harassing and threatening Jewish students along the way), but there is the BDS movement that attempts to cripple the Israeli economy.
Try walking down cities in Europe with traditional Jewish orthodox clothing. You run the risk of being beaten in the streets.
Yet there are perhaps hundreds of oppressed groups in the World. Why not East Timor? Tibet? Hong Kong? Chechnya? The Indigenous people in South America?
Piling on Israel is the cowardly and lazy way out. Have some guts and pick a cause that people are not familiar with.
Look at this chart:
The higher the score, the more human rights violations a nation has:
Saudi Arabia 8.8
South Sudan 9.9
The fault lies with surrounding Arab countries for not accepting Palestinian immigrants, and with the Palestinian leadership itself, for their obsession with driving the Jews away from the Holy Land.
Israel is just doing what every other nation would do under the circumstances.
Since you keep ignoring the obvious:
Jews were there first!
Christianity and Islam are derived from the Torah, the Jewish bible.
Gotta ask, why was the state of Palestine, not declared at some point between 1948 and 1967?
Well, it was the Palestinians that flatly rejected the 1947 UN Partition Plan, while the Jews accepted it.
The Arabs rolled the dice, and underestimated the strength of the IDF, and were soundly defeated.
Maybe if the Palestinians had just left Israel alone, they would not find themselves in this predicament. They made their bed, let them lie in it.