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Western media lies about Syria exposed (Canadian journalist Eva Bartlett)



Israel’s Minister Of Defense Outlines Plan To Divide Syria & Iraq – InvestmentWatch
In an article for Defense News, Avigdor Liberman explains Israels struggle in a turbulent Middle East and suggests solutions to the problems, including the division of Syria and Iraq along sectarian lines.


That is the same tactic the Jews have tried in Israel for the last 70 years and it has resulted in the worst record of one group causing misery for another group without end. Israel would be better off of the 650,000 Arabs would have been left in place for that 70 years as OPEC would have been shoveling money at them.
 

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Aleppo Is Liberated. What Now?



IMO Turkey will be the first of the foreign soldiers to go home and Iran the last as they provide the transport of the building supplies and then the locals are better off with electric scooters or take the mono-rail or both in almost any city in Syria.
What is going to be interesting to see is if the shelters for the (re)construction teams turn out to be shipping containers after they have had their cargo unloaded.

From the pictures I've seen strip out the metal parts and grind the rest pack to gravel sized rubble and use that to lay over the new utility lines that are laid on the existing roads and then recovered. A neighborhood of insulated containers with the latest in slide-out features the camping crowd loves so much. Twister ally might look at something like that to save on the property damage and the rebuilding cost shout the same area get hit again. A modern trailer that is backed into a hole that has a earthen berm can survive a severe storm and the risk of being flooded is a landscaping solution when the place is built.

In Syria and other devastated areas taking down the broken structures would be close to the first task and that would be where grinders come in, big fast grinders that does all it's work in a single pass, something like the jaws at a metal recycler on a big loader or pushed by a tank for close in work.

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The reality of how brutal and low people will go to win whatever it is they want to win......


A 7 years old girl entered to the Police Center in Damascus, Syria saying that she is lost. She detonated herself inside.


WARNING; although this type of insanity happens every day there, you may not like the pictures


https://twitter.com/maytham956/status/809790058484137984?s=09
 

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Modern version of reap what you sow yields a steady harvest for the military complex, pity the next target for planting.

Well, if you take a really close look at just about every picture from every conflict on the whole planet, you will see government troops, insurgents, terrorists, religious zealots, ... all armed with Kalashnikovs and Russian RPGs.

If anyone has seeded the planet with arms, it's the goddam Russians, far more than the Americans.
 

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Really?? If that is truedoh then they apparently just won the war. . . . Comrade, . . .

Syria War video today December 16, 2016
 

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Really?? If that is truedoh then they apparently just won the war. . . . Comrade, . . .

Syria War video today December 16, 2016

There's an unimpeachable source of information ... "Press TV"... an official Iranian outlet. Why didn't you air the Farsi version, Kafir?
 

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I don't think FOX has a field office in Syria, their feild office is the White House and they are way to bust=y with other things than pay attention to their rebels in Syris. I hear Putin keeps him appraised daily, right before the CIA does.

It was a classic when Trump told the CIA to take it to the Pentegram daily.
 

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So these are terrorists and their families being taken out of Aleppo to be dropped in the terrorist held countryside? Had to listen twice to make sure I got that right.
 

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If anyone has seeded the planet with arms, it's the goddam Russians, far more than the Americans.

Uh huh, the pentagon learned little from vietnam, bombing the crap out of a country is really a futile path to retreat. Gawd knows how much u.s weaponry sits and is still used in afghanistan after the cia ID'd saudi arabians as particpants in the twin tower attacks, how much in iraq to irradicate wmds, a battle that still rages wmdless. Gadaffi having to go was a godsend for the eu desperate for labourers to fill empty positions and libians now enjoy clan warfare with modern weapons. Asad too has to go so american weaponry is donated to undefined 'moderate' rebels supplying the eu with still more labourers and in yemen uncle sam stuffs saudi arabia with weapons to slaughter folks he dosen't approve of. All of this conflict keeps u.s. corps busy churning out weaponry for all sides and gives drone pilots plenty of target practice however like nam victory eludes them.
They need to provoke somebody to land their huge military budget but become indignant when their prey doesn't cower, the media beating the drum about putin being an expert digital hacker displays not only paranoia but a cyber net in need of mending.
 

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Uh huh, the pentagon learned little from vietnam, bombing the crap out of a country is really a futile path to retreat. Gawd knows how much u.s weaponry sits and is still used in afghanistan after the cia ID'd saudi arabians as particpants in the twin tower attacks, how much in iraq to irradicate wmds, a battle that still rages wmdless. Gadaffi having to go was a godsend for the eu desperate for labourers to fill empty positions and libians now enjoy clan warfare with modern weapons. Asad too has to go so american weaponry is donated to undefined 'moderate' rebels supplying the eu with still more labourers and in yemen uncle sam stuffs saudi arabia with weapons to slaughter folks he dosen't approve of. All of this conflict keeps u.s. corps busy churning out weaponry for all sides and gives drone pilots plenty of target practice however like nam victory eludes them.
They need to provoke somebody to land their huge military budget but become indignant when their prey doesn't cower, the media beating the drum about putin being an expert digital hacker displays not only paranoia but a cyber net in need of mending.

Yup. All of that is pretty true ... and the Russians covered the Earth in small arms, too. It takes two to tango.

Enjoying the Russian enabled genocide in Syria? You can watch it happen right now, in real time.
 

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The fall of Aleppo isn't humanity's disgrace: Neil MacDonald

Guilt is fashionable in our pampered society, particularly at this indulgent time of the year.

It's the safest of intellectual retreats. Asserting it at the dinner table guarantees solemn, affirming nods, before someone offers to top up everybody's Cabernet.

At the moment, the most powerful guilt-inducer is Syria.

"Aleppo has fallen and so has humanity," read the headline on a chastisement in the National Post by my old friend and colleague Terry Glavin. "We are disgraced."

Glavin is a skilled polemicist. He lists the unquestionable crimes of the regime in Damascus and its Russian accomplices: deployment of chlorine gas, indiscriminate bombardments, barrel bombs, starvation sieges, targeting of hospitals, rape as a weapon of war.

And he quotes Syrian activist Abdulkafi al-Hamdo's ghastly, beseeching social media posts, condemning the United Nations and the international community for its venal indifference to Aleppo's passion.

"There is no plausible defence any of us can mount against al-Hambdo's plainspoken indictment," writes Glavin, castigating us all for not "commanding our elected leaders" to free Syrians from their tormentors.

He offers a stinging summation of the argument against military intervention: "You know, quagmire and all that."

Well, yes. Quagmire is one way of putting it.

Here's another: Syrians are slaughtering Syrians in Syria. It's evil, and impossibly sad. Bashar al-Assad, the goofy-looking, London-educated ophthalmologist, is now a member of the war criminal pantheon.

If there is any justice, Assad's corpse will wind up on a pile of garbage, urinated upon by passersby whose relatives and friends died screaming in the chambers of his security forces, or whose children's bodies were shattered by his damned barrel bombs.

An undesirable solution

But it probably won't. Justice is an opportunistic concept in the Middle East.

And citizens of Western democracies have no reason for self-mortification. What exactly could they have done?

Some have suggested America and its allies could have imposed a no-fly zone.

But does anyone seriously think a no-fly zone would have prevented the Syrian regime, an alliance of Alawites and Christian elites, from trying to exterminate the Sunni rebels and fundamentalists advancing against them?

It's a matter of self-preservation. They know exactly what they would have faced had the rebels won. They'd have been lowered into lakes in cages, or something even nastier.

American militarists had no solutions, either. People like Senator John McCain wanted to identify good rebels, as opposed to ISIS-type rebels, and arm and back them.

The Obama administration actually tried that. The good rebels were promptly forced to hand over their American-supplied weapons to the bad rebels, or die.

No, there was only one way to save the Syrians from themselves, if that was ever even possible, and it was invasion.

The Russians, which have for decades been Syria's patron, would have vetoed any such notion at the UN Security Council. So it would have had to be a NATO action, or another American-led "coalition of the willing."

Which has been tried, and didn't turn out very well.

The legacy of invading Iraq

Actually, if Western democracies should feel any guilt, it's for what they (Canada excluded) did in 2003. On a pretext, or a lie, they invaded and shattered Iraq, effectively created ISIS, and triggered death and suffering that would have been considered a war crime had it not been led by Washington.

Yes, the U.S. toppled and handed Saddam Hussein to his enemies for execution, and he most certainly deserved it. But, like Assad, he was better than the alternative.

So America and other Western nations were understandably reluctant to rush in again. They did try to crush the bad rebels — Canada sent fighter jets to assist in that effort — but weirdly, it made them objective allies of Assad and his great sponsor, Iran.
Then the Russians stepped in, and that was that.

Unlike the Americans, Russian generals don't have lawyers in the room to referee decisions about where and when to drop bombs.

They don't really give a damn about killing civilians, as long as they win. In the Middle East, the Russians actually fit right in.

Once Putin backed Assad, the rebellion was doomed, and actually, it's not unreasonable to cheer that.

The most effective rebels are ISIS, or their fellow travellers, and really, the world is a little better off every time an ISIS soldier heads off to paradise.

Don't forget, though, the uprising in Syria began as a popular reaction to the arrest and torture by Assad's swinish security forces of some teenagers who daubed anti-regime graffiti on buildings in Deraa.

It was admirable, and it never had a chance.

In that sense, what's happened is unspeakable. Glavin is right.

Humanity did not destroy Aleppo

But having worked in the Middle East for years, I can say pretty much definitively what would have happened had the West invaded: its troops would have been welcomed for a few days, and then would have become infidel occupiers on the sacred soil of the house of God, and improvised explosive devices would have begun to explode, and civilians would have been slaughtered anyway.

So, yes. Quagmire, best avoided.

This is difficult to write. I feel deep sorrow for the suffering of Syrian civilians. I've stood and watched what happens to civilians when armies turn on them, and the anger it creates is corrosive.

But humanity did not destroy Aleppo. Canada in fact did something more constructive than most: it welcomed tens of thousands of Syrians fleeing for their lives. Europe did much more.

America, given the hell it caused over there, might consider doing the same.

The fall of Aleppo isn't humanity's disgrace: Neil Macdonald - CBC News | Opinion
 

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Salient article, add libya to the list of citizens bloodied and horrified by western actions that in this case also multipied europes' angst and we begin to spell tyrannical. The west simply does not understand that a strong ruthless leader is needed to subdue malcontent clans, hussein, gadaffi knew and assad knows riding shotgun is paramount to civility. Nato & co. blundering in to execute these dictators flung open pandoras box that the 'bad' guys riding shotgun had kept the lid on, can't ignore the time of shock and awe was also a time of oil reserve sweepstakes.
 

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14 US-Led Coalition Military Advisors Captured by Syrian Special Forces in Aleppo | HNN – Higgins News Network
Syrian based journalist Said Hilal Alcharifi is reporting that at least 14 military advisors assisting the rebel terrorists, including 1 American, have been captured in a bunker by Syrian specials forces.
According Alcharifi and other reports naming those captured, their nationalities are American, French, British, German, Israeli, Turkish, Saudi, Moroccan, and Qatari.
Alcharifi reports the advisors were captured inside of basement bunker that served as a rebel headquarters inside of Aleppo.
The French website Voltaire.net leaked news of their arrests yesterday as the United Nations was negotiating terms for a cease fire.
“The Security Council is sitting in private on Friday, December 16, 2016, at 17:00 GMT, while NATO officers were arrested this morning by the Syrian Special Forces in a bunker in East Aleppo.”
The claim that these are NATO officers is still not verified.
Fares Shehabi, a member of Parliament in Syria and Head of Aleppo’s Chamber of Commerce, leaked some of the names of those captured on Facebook:
 

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Evacuation of rebels from eastern Aleppo resumes



Syria: Locals try to get back to normal life in Aleppo's Alshaar district




Then the US enters the news and it sucks as usual.

US Coalition Advisors Captured In Aleppo
 

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The Judas kiss.


In an online statement posted on the website of the Turkish embassy, addressed "to those interested in the truths," the U.S. Embassy in Ankara warned of "considerable misinformation circulating in Turkish media" regarding Washington and its allies' role in the conflict in Syria. The embassy rejected claims it created or supported ISIS or Kurdish militant groups such as the People's Protection Units (YPG) and the Kurdish Workers' Party (PKK), both of which are labeled terrorist organizations by Turkey and are active in northern Syria.
"The United States government is not supporting DAESH. The [United States government] did not create or support DAESH in the past. Assertions the United States government is supporting DAESH are not true," the embassy wrote, using the Arabic-language acronym for ISIS. "The United States government has not provided weapons or explosives to the YPG or the PKK – period. We repeatedly have condemned PKK terrorist attacks and the group’s reprehensible violence in Turkey."
The statement then went on to try to smooth out the wrinkled diplomatic ties with Turkey, saying "as we have throughout the campaign against ISIL, we continue to work closely with our counterparts in the Turkish government to determine how we can increase our efforts to defeat ISIL and eliminate this scourge that threatens both our peoples. This includes ongoing discussions about how we can best support Syrian opposition and Turkish forces engaging ISIL around al Bab."
 

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Syrian Conflict: The Deceptions and Betrayals

(RINF) – Since the times of the Soviet-Afghan jihad, during the eighties, it has been the fail-safe game plan of the master strategists at NATO to raise money from the oil-rich emirates of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE and Kuwait; then buy billions of dollars’ worth of weapons from the arms’ markets of the Eastern Europe; and then provide those weapons and guerilla warfare training to the disaffected population of the victim country by using the intelligence agencies of the latter’s regional adversaries. Whether it’s Afghanistan, Chechnya, Bosnia, Libya or Syria, the same playbook has been executed to the letter.
More to the point, raising funds for proxy wars from the Gulf Arab States allows the Western executives the freedom to evade congressional scrutiny; the benefit of buying weapons from the unregulated arms’ markets of the Eastern Europe is that such weapons cannot be traced back to the Western capitals; and using jihadist proxies to achieve strategic objectives has the advantage of taking the plea of plausible deniability if the strategy backfires, which it often does. Remember that al-Qaeda and Taliban were the by-products of the Soviet-Afghan jihad, and the Islamic State and its global network of terrorists is the blowback of the proxy war in Syria.
Notwithstanding, the Western interest in the Syrian civil war has mainly been to ensure Israel’s regional security. The Shi’a resistance axis in the Middle East, which is comprised of Iran, the Syrian regime and their Lebanon-based proxy Hezbollah, posed an existential threat to Israel; a fact which the Israel’s defense community realized for the first time during the 2006 Israel-Hezbollah war during the course of which Hezbollah fired hundreds of rockets into northern Israel.


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The sudden thaw in Turkey’s relations with Russia and latent hostility towards the West is partly due to the fact that Erdogan holds the US-based preacher, Fethullah Gulen, responsible for the July coup plot and suspects that the latter has received tacit support from certain quarters in the United States’ intelligence community; but more importantly, Turkey also feels betrayed by the duplicitous Western policy in Syria and Iraq, and that’s why it is now seeking close cooperation with Russia in the region.
 

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The update not pushed in the west, . . . comrades.
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Aleppo, once a regional industrial center accounting for over 50 percent of the country's manufacturing employment, had been almost completely ruined in the war while its eastern region remained under rebel control. Many of its factories, schools, hospitals, roads and houses have been destroyed by bombings and looted.

But despite the shocking scale of the destruction, thousands of people who had been forced to flee are now returning to their homes to begin again in the now-liberated city. According to a top UN official, in the last couple of days alone some 2,200 families have returned to the Hanano housing district, one of the first city sectors to surrender to the militants. "People are coming out to east Aleppo to see their shops, their houses, to see if the building is standing and the house is not that looted… to see, [if] should they come back," Sajjad Malik, country representative in Syria for the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), said. Earlier, Aleppo Province Governor Hussein Diab told Sputnik that life in the city is "gradually returning to normal." Efforts to restore Aleppo are under way. Video reports show tractors and forklifts clearing the streets of sandbags and rubble, in a bid to bring the city back into working order. Some of the factories in the city's eastern region, where machines remained functional, have returned to work.

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/world/201701051049273202-people-return-to-liberated-aleppo/