Stan Hagen, you bastard! RESIGN

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No scrutiny of ministry in tot's death
Probe into killing of 19-month-old girl altered to focus on aboriginal agency

Lindsay Kines
Times Colonist


September 20, 2005
B.C.'s Children and Family Development Minister Stan Hagen admitted Monday that his office altered its investigation into the death of 19-month-old Sherry Charlie to focus on the aboriginal agency involved, rather than the ministry.

Sherry was killed by her uncle at Port Alberni in 2002, just weeks after being placed in his home by the Nuu-chah-nulth child protection agency, Usma.

Hagen denied a coverup, but confirmed the allegation by Opposition critic Adrian Dix that the review's terms of reference were changed. Dix said he got his information from a government source.

Hagen and his assistant deputy minister Jeremy Berland said the decision to change the review's terms of reference was made by a former director of child welfare and an executive director without the involvement of then-children's minister Gordon Hogg.

But neither Berland nor Hagen could say why the change was made. Berland said there were no letters or memos that indicate a reason.

Hagen said he wasn't sure when -- or even if -- he knew that the terms of reference had been changed.

"I'm not saying that over a year of briefings it wasn't mentioned to me," he said. "But it certainly has been elevated on my radar screen as of today."

Hagen said he's asked his staff to investigate further. "I have some questions about why the process changed myself," he said.

Dix, who first raised the issue in question period Monday, said the ministry's decision to change the terms of reference follows the Liberal government's pattern of attempting to hide its involvement in the Sherry Charlie case.

"This has been coverup after coverup after coverup," he said.

Berland said he drafted five terms of reference for the case review shortly after Sherry's death. But, unbeknownst to him, officials changed the review's scope a few weeks later, dropping a requirement that it also examine the ministry's involvement with Sherry's family. Berland acknowledged that a review of the ministry's involvement would have included a look at the ministry's budget and staff levels.

The NDP has attempted to link Sherry's death to ministry budget and staffing cuts.

Berland said he didn't realize the review had changed until about 10 months ago, when he received the draft report. He said he was "irritated" by the change and acknowledged that "it's clearly not an acceptable way to conduct a review."

Berland didn't resurrect the initial instructions. He said starting over wasn't an option because the report was already late and it wouldn't have shed any more light on the case.

Berland said the ministry has already admitted mistakes in the way it handled Sherry's file, and has taken steps to correct the problems.

"So, what more do we need to do on top of that to say, 'Something went wrong here that shouldn't have happened?' "

Asked why the government hadn't revealed earlier that the terms of reference were changed, and why it took the NDP to point it out in the legislature, Berland said: "Good question. I think, as I said, sometimes you get close to these things and you don't think about all of the possible other questions that may arise. In my view, the report satisfied the question of what happened in this case."
 

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RE: Stan Hagen, you basta

Well his boss Campbell reduced and cut so many social programs and funding since they were first elected. Unfortunatly this will not be the last victim of Campbells cruel cuts.

If Hagen was a real man he would resign as would Campbell.
 

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These bastards! they will do anything to cover their own ass'es. Stan Hagen you are a liar!


2002 guidelines sent to aboriginal agencies missed crucial information, says Dix

Victoria – The Practice Guidelines for "kith and kin" agreements sent by the Ministry of Children and Family Development to aboriginal social agencies at the time Sherry Charlie was placed with caregivers omitted 29 offences for which criminal record checks were called for, Adrian Dix, NDP Opposition critic for Children and Family Development, said today.


“The fact that the ministry guidelines did not require agencies to consider offenses such as abduction, assault, sexual assault, attempted murder, hostage taking and other serious crimes shows that the ministry’s serious haste and negligence in the implementation of the “kith and kin” agreements. To implement a new program to care for some of BC’s most vulnerable children by faxing out inadequate guidelines reflects the chaos caused by the Premier’s budget cutting and reorganization in the Ministry,” Dix said.


“Since the facts behind the Sherry Charlie case were brought to the ministry’s attention, there has been a sustained cover-up designed to keep these flawed guidelines secret in spite of the fact that the guidelines are a public document,” said Dix, the MLA for Vancouver-Kingsway.


Charlie was 19 months of age when she died at the hands of a caregiver in Port Alberni on September 4, 2002. In 2004, Ryan Dexter George pleaded guilty to manslaughter and was sentenced to 10 years in jail. The Ministry of Children and Family Development received a report on the case in March 2004. On July 21, 2005 Minister Stan Hagen released a summary of the report that intentionally ignored the Ministry’s role in the case and on August 4, released a censored version of the full report. The BC Liberal government failed to release the guidelines in July or August and has since refused repeated requests to see them.


“The major cutbacks and the reorganization that the BC Liberals imposed on the Ministry of Children and Family Development in 2002 played a large part in the story of Sherry Charlie, and the Campbell government has made a major effort to conceal that fact,” Dix said.


“Even for the listed offences such as sexual exploitation, child pornography and living off the avails of child prostitution, the offences are not prohibitive. The guidelines state that ‘the presence of these offences signal that caution should be used’ in deciding whether to place a child with a caregiver,” he said.


“By concealing these seriously flawed guidelines for more than three years, the BC Liberal government has put its political interests ahead of child protection in British Columbia,” Dix added.
 

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peapod said:
Even for the listed offences such as sexual exploitation, child pornography and living off the avails of child prostitution, the offences are not prohibitive. The guidelines state that ‘the presence of these offences signal that caution should be used’ in deciding whether to place a child with a caregiver,” he said.

So who was the fecking moron who wrote up this policy? I can't believe they would actually place a child, let alone consider placing a child in the care of a monster. Isn't that who they are supposed to take kids away from? God save our children.
 

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Ahh yes, think Christy Clark if I'm not mistaken who was the Minister of Child and Family Services back then. She and Liberals believe that they are above the law and accountable to no one. Christy is currently running for Mayor of Vancouver (god help them) and I hope this blows up in her face.
 

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19 months old and having your head bashed in, yes you liberal scum bags, lets here how you justify your cuts to the most vunerable in the province, childern! Blah! I better get a coffee eh bevski :p
 

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RE: Stan Hagen, you basta

There actually BC Liberals which is a fancey name for Social Credit or Conservatives. But crazy neo cons neverthe less.

Maybe if that bastard Campbell never cut child services budget by 23% when he got in, this could of been avoided. But as all right wing governments they like cutting programs for the disadvantage and people who need them the most.

Campbell since he made all these cuts should be charged with "accessory" to murder. He made the cuts to these programs and services and should face the consaquences of his heartless actions.
 

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Re: RE: Stan Hagen, you basta

no1important said:
There actually BC Liberals which is a fancey name for Social Credit or Conservatives. But crazy neo cons neverthe less.

Maybe if that bastard Campbell never cut child services budget by 23% when he got in, this could of been avoided. But as all right wing governments they like cutting programs for the disadvantage and people who need them the most.

Campbell since he made all these cuts should be charged with "accessory" to murder. He made the cuts to these programs and services and should face the consaquences of his heartless actions.

No1, you gotta think like a Liberal. Here's my rendition (not opinion):

First off you can't be cutting services from services which aren't used. There just isn't any cost savings there, so we are cutting services by 23% to the most popular services used by the citizens of BC.

And secondly we will be reducing seniors services cause they are too old to do anything about it.

Ohh hey, I could run for a Liberal seat in my riding. I got this psychobabble down pat, dontcha think?
 

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I be voting for you bevski 8) Your right important, they should be charge with accessory to murder, thats what it was! They delivered a helpless infant to a horrible death. I cannots help it!!!!! It makes my blood boil! Than they don't even have the balls to admit the wrong doing, they ALTER and try to hide what they did. Just tiding up for the next helpless child.
 

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It got me thinking when Global TV wouldn't name the person who was minister at the time, right after Stan said he wasn't the Minister in charge at the time which is why he wouldn't be stepping down. Hmmm I say to myself, then who is it? Just as I suspected Christy was the Minister of Family and Children Services as of Jan. 26, 2004 til she stepped down. And her background as opposition critic for this department over the years and being on the official caucus committee for children one would think she would know better. Shame shame Christy, wotcha got to say for yourself?

http://www.legis.gov.bc.ca/mla/37thparl/clark.htm
 

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They had an interview with the worker who changed the terms of reference. He said he did so because up until that time the Ministry had not been involved. This appears to be a huge lie at least according to the records in the files. But he went on to say that the budget cuts should seriously be looked at. And did you see Wally screw up a few simple questions?

Hey Wally! when you don't know what your talking about, keep your mouth shut and you won't look and sound stupid!