http://www.energy.gov.on.ca/index.cfm?fuseaction=english.news&body=yes&news_id=114
Good for McGuinty. He finally gets one piece of the energy puzzle right.
Good for McGuinty. He finally gets one piece of the energy puzzle right.
Smart Meters Coming
- Thread starter MMMike
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That puts his miles ahead of Harris. What did Harris do? Gave kick backs to his business buddies on the nuke plants and privatised electricity.
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Yeah Harris mismanaged the energy file like every other politician. The only good thing he did was move to privatise the Ontario Hydro monopoly and open the market to private generation. Too bad Eves didn't have the balls to stay the course. That flip flopping is going to cost us for a decade to come.
Reverend Blair said:
Yeah Harris mismanaged the energy file like every other politician. The only good thing he did was move to privatise the Ontario Hydro monopoly and open the market to private generation. Too bad Eves didn't have the balls to stay the course. That flip flopping is going to cost us for a decade to come.
Funny, because the provinces with government-owned electrical facilities have lower prices than those that privatised and the governments that made the mistake of bringing in private schemes saw prices rise so dramatically that they had to help consumers.
Privatisation was a mistake.
Privatisation was a mistake.
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Heaven forbid consumers actually have to pay the true cost of power generation. I guess its much better to have the taxpayer subsidise electricity consumption... or have industrial/institutional consumers subsidise the residential consumer?
Because government is so much more efficient that the private sector, right? :roll:
Reverend Blair said:
Heaven forbid consumers actually have to pay the true cost of power generation. I guess its much better to have the taxpayer subsidise electricity consumption... or have industrial/institutional consumers subsidise the residential consumer?
Because government is so much more efficient that the private sector, right? :roll:
Government is more efficient than the private sector when it comes to large projects, MMMikey. They don't have to turn huge and ever-increasing profits fo their shareholders.
Government electricity is also more reliable. Remember the big blackout in Toronto and all over the Eastern US? Remember what the findings of the investigations into that were? Private power companies had shirked their responsibility in order to maximise profits.
Government electricity is also more reliable. Remember the big blackout in Toronto and all over the Eastern US? Remember what the findings of the investigations into that were? Private power companies had shirked their responsibility in order to maximise profits.
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government clearly cannot be trusted to manage our energy supply. Look at Ontario - we have a huge lack in generating capacity and have to import very expensive power from elsewhere. If the market was truly open to private interests, there would not be such a generating shortage - they would have stepped in long ago.
Reverend Blair said:
government clearly cannot be trusted to manage our energy supply. Look at Ontario - we have a huge lack in generating capacity and have to import very expensive power from elsewhere. If the market was truly open to private interests, there would not be such a generating shortage - they would have stepped in long ago.
Nonsense, they might have built a plant outside of Toronto, but they would have ignored people in rural areas completely.
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Not to mention the 30 billion dollar debt the so called government left us.
The government is efficient at running things like Ontario Hydro into the ground. That’s why we took it away from the "efficient" ones.
MMMike said:
Not to mention the 30 billion dollar debt the so called government left us.
The government is efficient at running things like Ontario Hydro into the ground. That’s why we took it away from the "efficient" ones.
I'm glad I don't have to pay the bills that result from your "efficient" capitalist policies. My "inefficient" crown turns a profit and keeps my rates down.
Your big rate hike was the result of privatisation, Jay. Same as Alberta's. Same as BC's. Same as happened to our local phone rates here when Filmon privatised MTS. We ran the bastard out of office before he could shut down Manitoba Hydro.
Privatization sure. We aren’t going to be subsidizing power as much any more. Rates are going up.
The rates are also going to go up because they converted some coal plants to natural gas.
People have to become responsible for the own usage at some point in time. Allowing the free market to work will introduce new technologies into the system. They will find there way into people homes. Under the old system, Ontario Hydro, was slowing down progress.
The rates are also going to go up because they converted some coal plants to natural gas.
People have to become responsible for the own usage at some point in time. Allowing the free market to work will introduce new technologies into the system. They will find there way into people homes. Under the old system, Ontario Hydro, was slowing down progress.
what ever happened to reverse metering? this was the concept to allow private people to generate electricity and feed excess to the grid and get credit for it
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Its coming to Ontario - look at the first post in this thread. Eventually it'll spread all over - it is good technology & will help conserve energy not to mention provide tremendous incentive for decentralized green power generation.
iamcanadian said:
Its coming to Ontario - look at the first post in this thread. Eventually it'll spread all over - it is good technology & will help conserve energy not to mention provide tremendous incentive for decentralized green power generation.
I think that Nuclear reaction electrical generation is the proper way to go. We would have unlimited cheap energy of all kinds for running everything and eliminate the dependance on non-renewable fuels.
The fight against Nuclear Energy production was advanced by fuel companies. Now that the fuel is running out and the environment contaminated by the burning of fosil fuel, its time to start putting up as many nuclear reactors as we can and shift energy consumption to cheap clean electrical power produced by Nuclear Reactors. They are safer and cleaner than any other know method of producing energy.
The fight against Nuclear Energy production was advanced by fuel companies. Now that the fuel is running out and the environment contaminated by the burning of fosil fuel, its time to start putting up as many nuclear reactors as we can and shift energy consumption to cheap clean electrical power produced by Nuclear Reactors. They are safer and cleaner than any other know method of producing energy.