Should Canada indict Bush?
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I'd love to see Canada indict Bush! Think of the status of Canada after such an occurance. I'd support it, but there's definately some drawbacks...
Andem said:
You probably mean the 5,000,000,000,000,000 nuclear warheads that would be heading our way shortly after, right?
I would love beyond words to see Canada do something like that, though. Oh boy.
RE: Should Canada indict
They can't nuke us, they need our oil. The truth is that they can't do anything but deal through diplomatic channels because they need our resources and the rest of the world wants our resources and everybody doesn't hate us as much as they do Bush so declaring war on us would be declaring war on the world.
If Bush in cooling his heels in Stoney Mountain, Cheney is in charge. Do you think a little thing like his buddy being in jail is going to get Cheney to risk his personal greed? Not a hope in hell...he'd be on his knees begging for a deal and offering to testify.
They can't nuke us, they need our oil. The truth is that they can't do anything but deal through diplomatic channels because they need our resources and the rest of the world wants our resources and everybody doesn't hate us as much as they do Bush so declaring war on us would be declaring war on the world.
If Bush in cooling his heels in Stoney Mountain, Cheney is in charge. Do you think a little thing like his buddy being in jail is going to get Cheney to risk his personal greed? Not a hope in hell...he'd be on his knees begging for a deal and offering to testify.
Re: RE: Should Canada indict Bush?
!!!! Can we draw and quarter him too? C'mon, it'd be fun!
Andem said:
!!!! Can we draw and quarter him too? C'mon, it'd be fun!
Always remember that Canada is about 300 billion in the hole.
Every spring, just prior March 31st government fiscal year end, Martin is gonna have to wrap himself in a Canadian flag and trip off down to the New York banks and plead for the money to finance our deficit.
So, Let's indict the guy April 1st.
Calm
Every spring, just prior March 31st government fiscal year end, Martin is gonna have to wrap himself in a Canadian flag and trip off down to the New York banks and plead for the money to finance our deficit.
So, Let's indict the guy April 1st.
Calm
Paranoid Dot Calm said:
300 billion in the hole? You mean the 400 billion$ debt? (Or is it 500 billion?)
They have a 9 billion$ surplus this year.
And the US has an 8 trillion$ debt, btw.
Hi! Numure
I'm not sure how much we owe .... but for the Liberals to brag about a "surplus" is a joke! Imagine bragging about spending 8 or 9 billion dollars less this year than last, with our country still holding a National debt amounting to hundreds of billions?
http://www.fraserinstitute.ca/shared/readmore.asp?sNav=pb&id=670
Every year, before March 31, Canada visits the New York bankers and asks them to refinance the debt.
Who knows .... Martin may of hired X-Enron and X-Nortel accountants.
And, yuh know, I suggested indicting Bush on April 1st ...but looking at the U.S. economy, we maybe should wait 30 days and ensure Bushs' cheque is not NSF. Maybe, indict the guy on the May 24th weekend.
U.S. Taxpayers have a hidden debt of at least $473,456.00 per household
http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/retirement/2004-10-04-debtsolutions-cover_x.htm
Calm
I'm not sure how much we owe .... but for the Liberals to brag about a "surplus" is a joke! Imagine bragging about spending 8 or 9 billion dollars less this year than last, with our country still holding a National debt amounting to hundreds of billions?
http://www.fraserinstitute.ca/shared/readmore.asp?sNav=pb&id=670
Every year, before March 31, Canada visits the New York bankers and asks them to refinance the debt.
Who knows .... Martin may of hired X-Enron and X-Nortel accountants.
And, yuh know, I suggested indicting Bush on April 1st ...but looking at the U.S. economy, we maybe should wait 30 days and ensure Bushs' cheque is not NSF. Maybe, indict the guy on the May 24th weekend.
U.S. Taxpayers have a hidden debt of at least $473,456.00 per household
http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/retirement/2004-10-04-debtsolutions-cover_x.htm
Calm
RE: Should Canada indict
That $300 billion isn't really that much when compared with other countries though. We're actually doing quite well in that regard.
Not that the debt is good, but it is managable.
The Fraser insitute article is just that...a Fraser Institute article. It's full of neo-con spin because they want to privatise everything. They can't really call for us to adopt the American greenback since it is failing, and the debt is being reduced, so now they are whining about the financial liabilities of federal programs.
Guess what? I don't consider health care or the CPP to be liabilities.
That $300 billion isn't really that much when compared with other countries though. We're actually doing quite well in that regard.
Not that the debt is good, but it is managable.
The Fraser insitute article is just that...a Fraser Institute article. It's full of neo-con spin because they want to privatise everything. They can't really call for us to adopt the American greenback since it is failing, and the debt is being reduced, so now they are whining about the financial liabilities of federal programs.
Guess what? I don't consider health care or the CPP to be liabilities.
Hi! Reverend Blair
I understand your points made. I also know that the Fraser Institute is not the bible of truth. But, nor are the Liberals.
If you can find any truth in this world, be sure to advise me.
My only point was that we really shouldn't brag about a paltry 8 billion dollar surplus .... and that we really should treat our bankers a bit better too.
About CPP and HealthCare being a liability .... well, as we forecast expenditures into the future, these are liabilities. Not to say that we can not manage these libilities, but rather that they must be paid or whatever. These must be considered as we financially plan the future.
Here's a joke
http://users.chartertn.net/tonytemplin/FBI_eyes
Calm
I understand your points made. I also know that the Fraser Institute is not the bible of truth. But, nor are the Liberals.
If you can find any truth in this world, be sure to advise me.
My only point was that we really shouldn't brag about a paltry 8 billion dollar surplus .... and that we really should treat our bankers a bit better too.
About CPP and HealthCare being a liability .... well, as we forecast expenditures into the future, these are liabilities. Not to say that we can not manage these libilities, but rather that they must be paid or whatever. These must be considered as we financially plan the future.
Here's a joke
http://users.chartertn.net/tonytemplin/FBI_eyes
Calm
8) :lol:
The Fraser Institute drive me nuts because they are always quoted without question in the press and nobody ever points out that thye are a right-wing think tank. It's part of the invisible spin that the neo-cons put on our news.
The Fraser Institute drive me nuts because they are always quoted without question in the press and nobody ever points out that thye are a right-wing think tank. It's part of the invisible spin that the neo-cons put on our news.
Paranoid Dot Calm said:
I'd brag about it. We are the only western country to be in great financial situation. The consequences are well shown though, the hole mess in the health care system is because they cut back. But now that things are going well, the feds should start paying their share, again.
Don't listen to does wacky fraserinstitute people. They are nuts. Our debt burden is VERY low compared to other western countries. The country with the biggest debt, is the US (8 trillion US$). Its "normal" for a country to be in debt. Certainly after the cold war. As much as I hate the liberals, its thanks to them that we have a great financial situation.
RE: Should Canada indict
I don't it's self-destructive at all, Rick. In fact I think that indicting him, or at least letting it be known that we will indict anyone, no matter who they are, who has been accused of war crimes, would be a very constructive thing to do.
There are laws and if we expect some to follow them while allowing others to do as they please we are not only being hypocritical, but undermining the value of those laws.
I don't it's self-destructive at all, Rick. In fact I think that indicting him, or at least letting it be known that we will indict anyone, no matter who they are, who has been accused of war crimes, would be a very constructive thing to do.
There are laws and if we expect some to follow them while allowing others to do as they please we are not only being hypocritical, but undermining the value of those laws.
What about relations with the US? Economic relations? The fact that we are talking about the president of one of the most powerful nations in the world, a nation which happens to be your neighbor?
relations of any kind, regardless of who they're with should not outweigh the law.
this is a moot thread, anyway - bush will have diplomatic immunity on his visit, will he not?
this is a moot thread, anyway - bush will have diplomatic immunity on his visit, will he not?