Quebec gets a bigger international role

JonB2004

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On Friday, Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Quebec Premier Jean Charest annouced a deal that would let Quebec have a role at the United Nations office, UNESCO (United Nations Education, Scientific, and Cultural Organization).

Quebec will have a official representative at Canada's UNESCO office in Paris.

Check it out this link: http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/05/05/quebec-unesco.html


My Two Cents
This really ticks me off. Harper is giving in to the separtists.
 

athabaska

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I applaud this move.

Giving in to separatists? Since when is Charest, who welcomes this move, a separatist?
 

Semperfi_dani

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RE: Quebec gets a bigger

I shake my head at this...but than i wonder, so when will Alberta, Ontario, or any other province be issued the same rights?
 

Machjo

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Re: RE: Quebec gets a bigger

Semperfi_dani said:
I shake my head at this...but than i wonder, so when will Alberta, Ontario, or any other province be issued the same rights?

A little common sense goes a long way. One of UNESCO's mandates is in fact to promote a-political and non-partisan dialogue bwtween cultures. Are you implying that Ontario and Alberta have such distinc cultures from one another? This is not about separatism or anything else. It's simply an acknowledgement that Quebec is indeed founded upon a culture disinct from that of the rest of Canada. Even most hard-core fedralists will acknowledge that.
 

Semperfi_dani

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RE: Quebec gets a bigger

Ok..than time to give Newfoundland their seat...and perhaps the maritime region their seat..cuz they are different from the rest of canada.

Perhaps I am misunderstanding UNESCO..i thought that the promotion of dialogue that you mentioned refers to COUNTRYS, not regions within countries.

But perhaps as a reference, if anyone can be so kind to research...are there members of UNESCO that come from a region/state/province within a country???
 

Mogz

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I'm going to poke the proverbial bear with a stick here and ask why the hell does a Province need a bigger international role? There, the bear has been poked, now flame me.
 

FiveParadox

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I think that it would be a reasonable compromise to give certain Provinces and Territories of Canada more prominent places in international affairs, in terms of matters of culture, language, things like that — however, Provinces and Territories should not have independence from Canada when it comes to political matters abroad.
 

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This is as stupid as it was to give THREE VOTES in the UN General Assembly to the Soviet Union.

One Nation, One Vote. NO EXCEPTIONS.

Besides, UNESCO is for developing regions. Isn't Canada part of the Industrialized World?
 

aeon

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Re: RE: Quebec gets a bigger

Semperfi_dani said:
I shake my head at this...but than i wonder, so when will Alberta, Ontario, or any other province be issued the same rights?

I am from quebec, and i agree that why ontario, alberta and the rest doesnt get the same right, it is ridicoulus.
 

DurkaDurka

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It is the responsibility of Ont & AB to bankroll the welfare provinces, unfortunately that does not make us "unique".
 

Numure

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Roger said:
This is as stupid as it was to give THREE VOTES in the UN General Assembly to the Soviet Union.

One Nation, One Vote. NO EXCEPTIONS.

Besides, UNESCO is for developing regions. Isn't Canada part of the Industrialized World?

Canada isnt one Nation, idiot. That's the hole fucking problem with Canadian Unity. Wake up and smell the coffee.
 

Numure

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DurkaDurka said:
It is the responsibility of Ont & AB to bankroll the welfare provinces, unfortunately that does not make us "unique".

Ontario is gonne be receiver, soon. And they will receiver more per year then Québec ever has, because of their population. Per head we don't get that much, in total we seem to. Its because we have a much larger population then all the other receivers put together.
 

FiveParadox

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[i said:
Numure[/i]]Canada isnt one Nation, idiot. That's the hole *censored* problem with Canadian Unity. Wake up and smell the coffee.
Let's keep a degree of respect in this discussion, please.

Je ne suis pas d'accord, Numure. À mon avis, la province du Québec, c'est exactement ça — une province des dix (et, bien sur, les territoires du Canada). I would suggest that in order for the subject of the unity of Canada to progress, we are going to need to foster the idea that Québec is one Province (nonetheless, perhaps a distinct and prominent Province) out of many others, and that the needs of each Province, not just those of Québec, must be considered by the Government of Canada. Where the interests of the Provinces compete, Québec should not be given priority over any other Provinces, solely for the reason that Québec is Québec.
 

Numure

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Jersay said:
It seems the seperatists are having a tantrum since it doesn't seem they are getting their way now.

Actually, I am. What I've always asked for this country to work, is less Ottawa and more provinces. I voted for Harper, btw. And I am, by definition a seperatist. Would I vote no in the next referendum? Probably not. Wont change my vote yet. But up until now, Harper is living up to expectations.
 

FiveParadox

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In my opinion, what we need for Canada to become more united among the peoples, and to foster less divisions between the Provinces and Territories of Canada, is to get Ottawa more involved with the Provinces and Territories. The Government of Canada should begin to exercise its right, under the constitution, to veto Acts of the Provinces where those Acts run contrary to the interests of the nation. The Provinces should be reminded that their authority is limited — we are all Canadians.
 

Jersay

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Canada should be defined by the BNA act or the Constitution whichever one is the most legitimate, mot likely the BNA act, and the provinces should do what they do under that and the federal do what they do. No more and no less.