Putin threatens preventive terror actions
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They scare me equally, Jilly. There are reports that they prayed together in the Oval Office...they are very much alike.
They scare me equally, Jilly. There are reports that they prayed together in the Oval Office...they are very much alike.
RE: Putin threatens preve
It was bound to happen when Bush made "pre-emption" part of his war on terror. If the US can do whatever they want, then so can other countries. It isn't very surprising at all the Russia decided to step up to the plate...they've been doing it all along anyway, it's just now they can do it in public.
It was bound to happen when Bush made "pre-emption" part of his war on terror. If the US can do whatever they want, then so can other countries. It isn't very surprising at all the Russia decided to step up to the plate...they've been doing it all along anyway, it's just now they can do it in public.
Geopolitics at it's best...
Russians Blast US-UK Sponsorship Of Chechen Terror
In the wake of the terrorist atrocity at a school in Beslan, North Ossetia, in the Russian Federation, Russian President Vladimir Putin has made remarks to the western press which expose the key role of the US and British governments in backing Chechen terrorism. Whatever Putin's previous role in events regarding Chechnya, his current political posture is one which sharply undercuts the legitimacy of the supposed Anglo-American "war on terror," and which points up the hypocrisy of the Bush regime's pledge that it will make no distinction between the terrorists and those who harbor them -- since Washington and London are currently harboring Chechens implicated in terrorism.
All in all, Putin's response to Chechen events has, with the third anniversary of 9/11, brought the collapse of the official 9/11 myth measurably closer. The hypocritical terror demagogy of Bush and Blair has now been undercut by the head of state of another permanent member of the UN Security Council...
On Monday September 6, Putin spoke for three and one half hours with a group of some 30 western correspondents and Russia experts at his dacha near Novo Ogarevo outside Moscow. There is no official transcript so far, but accounts have been published in The Guardian, The Independent, and Le Monde. The Washington Post waited until Friday, September 10 to publish an article, but left out the most significant remarks. There are now signs that the Anglo-American press is beginning a new campaign against Putin as a dictator, stressing the obvious in order to silence his attacks on the US-UK sponsorship of Chechen terror.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/TAR409A.html
As commented on another thread, this does play well into western oil concerns...
and as a sidebar to false-flagging and general support of another's enemies...
Iraqis Not Behind Italian Hostages Kidnap: Guardian
A leading British daily Thursday, September 16, cast heavy doubts on the identity of kidnappers that snatched two Italian aid workers in Baghdad days ago, citing clear differences in the style of carrying out the operation.
The Guardian said the kidnapping of Simona Torretta and Simona Pari has the mark of an undercover foreign operation in a bid to discredit the unabated Iraqi resistance against US occupation forces.
http://www.islamonline.org/English/News/2004-09/16/article06.shtml
At times it can be difficult at first to discern, is it a real terrorist act or false-flagged or covertly supported?
"It is real or Memorex?"
Geo-politics at it's best...
Russians Blast US-UK Sponsorship Of Chechen Terror
In the wake of the terrorist atrocity at a school in Beslan, North Ossetia, in the Russian Federation, Russian President Vladimir Putin has made remarks to the western press which expose the key role of the US and British governments in backing Chechen terrorism. Whatever Putin's previous role in events regarding Chechnya, his current political posture is one which sharply undercuts the legitimacy of the supposed Anglo-American "war on terror," and which points up the hypocrisy of the Bush regime's pledge that it will make no distinction between the terrorists and those who harbor them -- since Washington and London are currently harboring Chechens implicated in terrorism.
All in all, Putin's response to Chechen events has, with the third anniversary of 9/11, brought the collapse of the official 9/11 myth measurably closer. The hypocritical terror demagogy of Bush and Blair has now been undercut by the head of state of another permanent member of the UN Security Council...
On Monday September 6, Putin spoke for three and one half hours with a group of some 30 western correspondents and Russia experts at his dacha near Novo Ogarevo outside Moscow. There is no official transcript so far, but accounts have been published in The Guardian, The Independent, and Le Monde. The Washington Post waited until Friday, September 10 to publish an article, but left out the most significant remarks. There are now signs that the Anglo-American press is beginning a new campaign against Putin as a dictator, stressing the obvious in order to silence his attacks on the US-UK sponsorship of Chechen terror.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/TAR409A.html
As commented on another thread, this does play well into western oil concerns...
and as a sidebar to false-flagging and general support of another's enemies...
Iraqis Not Behind Italian Hostages Kidnap: Guardian
A leading British daily Thursday, September 16, cast heavy doubts on the identity of kidnappers that snatched two Italian aid workers in Baghdad days ago, citing clear differences in the style of carrying out the operation.
The Guardian said the kidnapping of Simona Torretta and Simona Pari has the mark of an undercover foreign operation in a bid to discredit the unabated Iraqi resistance against US occupation forces.
http://www.islamonline.org/English/News/2004-09/16/article06.shtml
At times it can be difficult at first to discern, is it a real terrorist act or false-flagged or covertly supported?
"It is real or Memorex?"
Geo-politics at it's best...
Re: RE: Putin threatens preve
Honestly, Rev, I don't think Putin should scare anybody as much as Bush does. Russia is an economically bankrupt country with little resources to pull off some of what Bush has managed to do. Come on, atleast when it was the Soviet Union, they could finance it through their own economy... but not it's a free-market and, well, somewhat difficult.
I just don't think it's fair to compare Bush and Putin as equals
Reverend Blair said:
Honestly, Rev, I don't think Putin should scare anybody as much as Bush does. Russia is an economically bankrupt country with little resources to pull off some of what Bush has managed to do. Come on, atleast when it was the Soviet Union, they could finance it through their own economy... but not it's a free-market and, well, somewhat difficult.
I just don't think it's fair to compare Bush and Putin as equals
Re: RE: Putin threatens preve
Russia is just newly out of a dictatorial style of government, and I don't even think it's really all that non-dictatorial based on what I've heard. Given my own ignorance in this topic, I am still willing to say that Russia is teetering on the brink of a full fledged dictatorship, and if this comes in again, Putin WILL have a blank check to use all their stockpiles of nukes. I wouldn't underestimate the importance of this new declaration. It scares the heck out of me.
Andem said:Reverend Blair said:
Honestly, Rev, I don't think Putin should scare anybody as much as Bush does. Russia is an economically bankrupt country with little resources to pull off some of what Bush has managed to do. Come on, atleast when it was the Soviet Union, they could finance it through their own economy... but not it's a free-market and, well, somewhat difficult.
I just don't think it's fair to compare Bush and Putin as equals
Russia is just newly out of a dictatorial style of government, and I don't even think it's really all that non-dictatorial based on what I've heard. Given my own ignorance in this topic, I am still willing to say that Russia is teetering on the brink of a full fledged dictatorship, and if this comes in again, Putin WILL have a blank check to use all their stockpiles of nukes. I wouldn't underestimate the importance of this new declaration. It scares the heck out of me.
RE: Putin threatens preve
Russia still has a lot of nukes, there was apparently a lot of new technology on display at their last parade, and they have said that they will develop technology to stay even with the US regarding Star Wars. To me that doesn't sound like a country we shouldn't worry about.
Russia still has a lot of nukes, there was apparently a lot of new technology on display at their last parade, and they have said that they will develop technology to stay even with the US regarding Star Wars. To me that doesn't sound like a country we shouldn't worry about.
Russia is a country that we should KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON. Their country is still experiencing a change from Soviet style ecomony to one like the USA. The people in that country are feeling the pain and where we have pain, we have growing want for change and more power.
The direction Russia will go is back to it's old style. They are already heading that way.
The direction Russia will go is back to it's old style. They are already heading that way.
I just read that Putin is scrapping elections for the regional governors and appointing them himself :roll: . Sounds like a dictatorship to me.
Most of those "terrorists" were elected to thier positions before Putin put an end to it. Chechnya has been in an independent frame of mind for decades. Instead of Russia using negotiation they have used brutality(sounds familiar)to try and control Chechnya. Estimates of up to 200,000 killed are being used. This includes the first war which Yeltsin conducted. I'm not sympathetic to terrorism but both sides can be said to employ it as a tactic.
The same can be said of the USA, T.Rex. They are in deep financial trouble, have massive social problems that are not being addressed, and an ever-increasing number of people who feel alienated by the government. They have shown a complete lack of respect for international law and are currently involved in a war for oil.
Russia, at least, is not right next door.
Good heavens. All that Putin is doing is saying THE SAME THING that Bush did; Bush made it very clear that the US claims the right to go after terrorists...is there anyone out there who still believes that Bush & Co are particularly more ethical than Putin & Co??? Get off it.
Remember that the USSR invaded Afghanistan after being tired of terrorism...so the west boycotted the Moscow Olympics, and then the US hired some guy to fight the USSR....what was his name? Oh,yeah, bin Laden.....my my my, what goes around comes around, eh?
Remember that the USSR invaded Afghanistan after being tired of terrorism...so the west boycotted the Moscow Olympics, and then the US hired some guy to fight the USSR....what was his name? Oh,yeah, bin Laden.....my my my, what goes around comes around, eh?
Putin Critic Navalny In Coma, Aides Suspect Poisoning
https://www.oann.com/russian-opposition-leader-navalny-in-hospital-with-suspected-poisoning/
Putin's been taking lessons from the Clintons.
https://www.oann.com/russian-opposition-leader-navalny-in-hospital-with-suspected-poisoning/
Putin's been taking lessons from the Clintons.