Private Robert Costall hit by Friendly Fire??

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Globe and Mail Update

Kandahar, Afghanistan — It may have been “friendly fire” that killed Canadian Private Robert Costall and U.S. medic Staff-Sergeant First Class John Stone and wounded five others last week.

Canadian and U.S. military officials announced here early this morning that the “initial findings” of a joint investigation warrant a further probe to determine precisely how the two died and the five – including three Canadians, an American and one Afghan – were wounded.

A news conference to give further details is scheduled for later today.

The casualties occurred in the late hours of last Tuesday or early Wednesday during a fierce firefight with the Taliban at a remote base in the southern province of Helmand.

The battle, which raged for hours, was originally precipitated by an ambush earlier on Tuesday upon an Afghan National Army convoy returning to Forward Operating Base Robinson, as the wide-open settlement in the Sangin River Valley is known.

Eight Afghans died in that first attack.

It was in support of that beleaguered convoy that a Quick Reaction Force -- composed of Pte. Costall and 37 other Canadians from the 7 Platoon, First Battalion of the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry -- was choppered to the remote base.

Some short time after the QRF arrived and darkness fell, the Taliban launched an all-out assault on the base itself.

The primitive base, which has no sanitary facilities and no permanent structures, is little more than an expanse of sand surrounded by a single ring of sandbags.

Some 10 metres beyond the sand berm lies a frail perimeter of concertina wire, and beyond that wire, various small hills and compounds from which the Taliban attacked the base in three directions.

It was at the north end of the camp, in the relatively narrow space between the sand berm and the wire, that Pte. Costall, who was laying down a protective fire base for his fellow soldiers as they rushed to repel the Taliban, was killed.

That gate is now named Costall Gate after the young married father of one.

From inside the sand bags, the coalition forces -- then manned by about 100 ANA soldiers, their U.S. trainers and the QRF -- would have been shooting outwards.

Over the weekend, hundreds of soldiers from the PPCLI made the arduous trek by Light Armoured Vehicle to reinforce the base, arriving just yesterday morning.

The investigation by the Canadian Forces National Investigation Service and the U.S. military will continue.

Asked how friendly fire might have been responsible, Maj.-Gen. (Ret.) Lewis MacKenzie told CTV News on Monday that investigators would start with the ammunition.

"The most obvious one is calibre of the bullets that stuck the soldiers," he said.

Even an examination of bullets might not provide the whole answer, however, because Afghan National soldiers are armed with AK-47 assault rifles, the same weapon favoured by the Taiban.

"There would also be the interrogation of our folks that were involved in the firefight," Gen. MacKenzie said.

He said investigators will try to recreate the battle, according to witness accounts, to figure out who was firing and why they were firing.
 

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Finder I am not sure what your military background is, but on another post I got the impression you may have put a bit of time in.

If Pte Costall was killed by friendly fire I'd have to say that I'm not all that surprised. A firefight is often a noisy confusing engagement where orders are yelled out over gunfire. Poor communication is often a leading cause of friendly fire accidents.
When it happens today we tend to shutter and ask "how did this happen." During previous wars it happened probably a lot more than it was reported.

As Sassy said: Sadly this can happen

Moreover I am very sympathetic to this young fellows family. I dealt with family after one of my soldiers was killed in the FY and it is a difficult emotional

May the good memories see them through the very difficult days ahead.

M
 

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It hasn't been determined if this has happen which is why they are having an investigation. It's best to wait for the out come and hopefully the family of Private Costall will not let the media attention get to them until all the facts are known.
 

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Retired_Can_Soldier said:
Finder I am not sure what your military background is, but on another post I got the impression you may have put a bit of time in.

If Pte Costall was killed by friendly fire I'd have to say that I'm not all that surprised. A firefight is often a noisy confusing engagement where orders are yelled out over gunfire. Poor communication is often a leading cause of friendly fire accidents.
When it happens today we tend to shutter and ask "how did this happen." During previous wars it happened probably a lot more than it was reported.

As Sassy said: Sadly this can happen

Moreover I am very sympathetic to this young fellows family. I dealt with family after one of my soldiers was killed in the FY and it is a difficult emotional

May the good memories see them through the very difficult days ahead.

M

Yes I was a member of the Queens own here in Toronto.

I understand mistakes can happen. However my post was more on the lines that I doubt it was the americans if it was 7.62x39mm bullets which are found.

But I agree mistakes do happen and if somehow it was the americans I expect a fair investigation to take place!
 

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Unfortunately Finder if it was American fire there will be those waiting to capitalize on this tragedy. Sadly many politicians who oppose the war in Afghanistan will use this incident to push their own agenda's.

CTV recently said that it is still under investigation.

By the way, my Uncle was a MWO in the reg force Queens Own and moved into the RCR until his retirement. A great regiment, proud history........

In Pace Paratus - In Peace Prepared


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Finder said:
I understand mistakes can happen. However my post was more on the lines that I doubt it was the americans if it was 7.62x39mm bullets which are found.

Unfortunately, the ammunition at fault may not clarify things as both the Afghan troops as well as the Taliban attackers were likely using AK-47's. As has been said, a tragic situation and considering the chaotic circumstances under which it likely took place, easily understandable. That said, there can always be improvements made to SOPs after considering conditions in the field.

My thoughts go to Private Costall's family, especially his widow and young child. :(

Patrick