Police Brutality - Time to get pissed

Unforgiven

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If nobody files a complaint, nobody gets in ****.

This is an interesting DB of Toronto's finest assholes and what cops are really like.

Keep in mind these are only the ones who got caught in 2004
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CBC News Indepth: Toronto Police

That was political more that anything else. Fantino is and always was a politician and ran the TPS in the manner of Nixon at his finest. Getting rid of those who can cause him trouble just came naturally to him.
 
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JLM

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This is just what I mean. You don't know what to do, what you could do and obviously what you should do. And it's not just an ignorance thing with you. You don't even want to know what you should do. As the video shows, no one is being apprehended. They are being abused and assaulted by those in an authority position. You can't even tell the difference between an assault and an arrest. Pity for you and those around you.

I told you what I do (that's worked well for me for over 60 years) - Mind your own business, obey the laws and don't be conspicuous...............it's not rocket science.
 
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Cliffy

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I told you what I do (that's worked well for me for over 60 years) - Mind your own business, obey the laws and don't be conspicuous...............it's not rocket science.
You are lucky that worked for you. I can't say it worked for me and I'm sure many others would testify it didn't work for them. The problem with looking out for number one is that when you need help, nobody will be there for you. We live in a society, a country and we are all in this together. What happens to my neighbour and my fellow citizens matters to me. I think it is called social consciousness. Most of the people who suffered from police brutality were innocent bystanders. That has to stop. We live in a corporate dictatorship because people have kept their heads down for far too long. We either step up and claim our sovereignty back or become imprisoned sheeple. I'm sure our grandchildren will appreciate being sold out like that.
 
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Unforgiven

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I told you what I do (that's worked well for me for over 60 years) - Mind your own business, obey the laws and don't be conspicuous...............it's not rocket science.

Of course I do, just because you're wrong and I don't agree doesn't mean I don't understand you. You're day will come and when it does and you see the turning away, think of me.
 
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JLM

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If I'm paying for it, it is my business. 100% my business.

I think you missed the context of my meaning.

You are lucky that worked for you. I can't say it worked for me and I'm sure many others would testify it didn't work for them. The problem with looking out for number one is that when you need help, nobody will be there for you. We live in a society, a country and we are all in this together. What happens to my neighbour and my fellow citizens matters to me. I think it is called social consciousness. Most of the people who suffered from police brutality were innocent bystanders. That has to stop. We live in a corporate dictatorship because people have kept their heads down for far too long. We either step up and claim our sovereignty back or become imprisoned sheeple. I'm sure our grandchildren will appreciate being sold out like that.

Hey, Cliff there is no guaranteed procedure that is going to ensure you don't suffer from police brutality, anymore than there is any way you can guarantee not to drop dead of a stroke. You are not going to stop it, anymore than you will see an end to poor doctors, poor plumbers, poor upholsterers. :smile:
 
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If you want to crack down on the cops. Piss test the lot of them. We need new recruits for those big assed prisons.

You don't have piss tests for police? In Massachusetts they do... but we have to compensate (i.e pay) them for thier urine. :)


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hey it works! I miss the rolling eyes emoticon.
 

Unforgiven

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Have another and here is one to grow on.

“Well, good luck on Saturday.”

These were the five words Sean Salvati cheekily uttered to two RCMP officers on June 23, 2010, three days before the G20 summit. And with that one sentence, what had been a fun evening of friends and Blue Jays baseball quickly became a hellish 11-hour ordeal in which Salvati claims he was arrested, strip-searched, beaten, denied access to a lawyer and left naked in a cell for nearly an hour.

Scenes of Salvati’s ordeal were captured by police security cameras at a downtown police station and his lawyers have obtained several hours of footage through Freedom of Information requests.

In one video, Salvati is shown being led from an interrogation room by three officers and escorted naked past a female officer.

Salvati also alleges he was beaten while officers forcibly strip-searched him.

“One of the officers grabbed the neck and began punching me,” Salvati said in an interview with the Star Thursday. “(He) mentioned something about ‘These are your rights.’ You know? Like: ‘You think you have rights? These are your rights.’

“And I just started screaming.”

Salvati, a 33-year-old licensed paralegal, claims he was an innocent victim caught up in the G20’s overzealous security effort. The charge that allegedly got him thrown in jail — Salvati was pulled from a cab and arrested for public intoxication — was never filed in court.

He is suing the Toronto Police Services Board, the attorney general of Canada and four Toronto police officers for false arrest and imprisonment.

The lawsuit was filed in Ontario Superior Court late Thursday afternoon and seeks at least $75,000 in damages. Salvati further alleges police assaulted him in custody and violated his Charter rights by denying him access to a lawyer and subjecting him to cruel and unusual treatment when they locked him naked in a cell for 48 minutes.

Salvati’s allegations have not yet been proven in court and no statements of defence have been filed.

“You just never imagine when you go about your daily life that this is the kind of thing that could happen to you when you’ve done nothing wrong,” said lawyer Paul Quick, who is representing Salvati along with Murray Klippenstein. “And Sean hasn’t done anything wrong.”

When reached early Thursday night, police spokesman Mark Pugash said he was not in a position to comment because he could not confirm whether Toronto police had yet been served with Salvati’s lawsuit.

“You’re asking me questions that are at the heart of this man’s lawsuit and we haven’t seen the statement of claim,” Pugash said. “That will happen in due course but I think it’s entirely inappropriate to answer questions at this point before we’ve even had a chance to look at what he’s alleging.”

In his court filing, Salvati claims he and his friends encountered several police officers on the evening of June 23 and were intrigued by the robust security in downtown Toronto, stopping several times to chat and even take pictures with officers.

At the end of the night, while trying to hail a cab, Salvati said he encountered two female RCMP officers and tried to engage them in conversation, too. He said the officers ignored him, prompting Salvati to say they should be more polite because taxpayers are paying for their overtime.

He then saluted the officers and said, “Well, good luck with Saturday.”

The filing states Salvati hailed a cab to go to a friend’s house. At a red light, two police officers approached the taxi and pulled him out.

In his claim, Salvati alleges he was questioned “repeatedly about his comments to the two RCMP officers and, specifically, what he meant by his reference to ‘Saturday.’ During this time, the two RCMP officers that Mr. Salvati had spoken to earlier arrived at the scene . . . and identified Mr. Salvati as the person who had spoken to them.”

Salvati was then arrested for public intoxication. He claims in his court filing he had consumed slightly less than four glasses of beer in 5½ hours and was “in full control of his faculties.” He further alleges he requested a breathalyzer test but was denied.

“As soon as I was placed under arrest, I knew that something completely out of the ordinary was happening,” he said.

Salvati alleges he was taken to 52 Division near Dundas St. W. and University Ave. and subjected to a strip search because he had been “uncooperative” and would be lodged in the “general population.”

He claims he was then taken to a room by three officers, one of whom began to “strike and slap” him on his face and body and kneed him in the chest as the other two held his handcuffed arms.

Salvati further alleges one officer threatened to rip his nipple ring out but was urged by another officer not to because then he would require “medical.”

In his claim, Salvati said he was then taken from the room and escorted naked past a female officer and placed in an unoccupied single-person cell. He further alleges he was left naked for 48 minutes and at one point an officer placed his clothes on the floor in the hallway within his sights.

“It was punitive,” Salvati said. “I had said to a friend of mine, who took me to a doctor the next day, I told her that I felt like I’d been raped.”

After Salvati’s boxers and shirt were returned to him, he was visited by two men in plainclothes, according to his court filing. They would only identify themselves as “Officer C” and “Officer SIS” and led him to a separate interrogation room, where they “questioned him about the G20 summit, his alleged role in the anticipated protests, and his remark about ‘Saturday’ to the RCMP officers.”

(Saturday was the day of the largest protests of the G20 weekend, including a labour march, which police believed would be used as cover for anarchist groups bent on destruction.)

Salvati’s lawyers have since tried to obtain the names of these two men through a Freedom of Information request. They were told that 52 Division officers and the Professional Standards Unit had reviewed footage from a security camera and the two men could not be identified.

“It just defies common sense that an unidentified person could walk into 52 Division and meet privately with a prisoner and interrogate them . . . without someone having to say, ‘This is who I am. This is why I’m here,’ ” Quick said.

Salvati was released at 9:42 a.m., about 11 hours after he was pulled from his cab by police. He claims he was given an offence notice that he was charged under the Liquor Licence Act with being intoxicated in a public place. He learned six months later his charge was never filed in court.

Salvati said he has since filed a complaint about his arrest to the Office of the Independent Police Review Director but their investigations were only able to substantiate one of his claims, which is that he was not given access to a lawyer. This finding was deemed to be of a “less serious nature,” however.

Today, Salvati said he feels he was being punished that day for trying to assert his rights. The incident has left him traumatized and suspicious of police. A day after his release from jail, he saw a doctor and was given Valium for his anxiety.

A full year has passed since the G20 summit, but Salvati still has no answers for why this happened to him.

“I was in the wrong place at the wrong time, at a Jays game three days before (the G20 summit) and I got caught up in it all,” he said. “And it’s changed my life.”

Here's your rights!
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Oh come on, tell us what you really think.

Seriously man. Is there obvious abuse of power in that video?
Absolutely and I support bringing those officers up on charges.

Wrapping it up in some NEW WORLD ORDER propaganda video makes it look like just that. Propaganda. Oh and I almost forgot. the soundtrack was groovy.
 

Unforgiven

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Seriously man. Is there obvious abuse of power in that video?
Absolutely and I support bringing those officers up on charges.

Wrapping it up in some NEW WORLD ORDER propaganda video makes it look like just that. Propaganda. Oh and I almost forgot. the soundtrack was groovy.

Sensationalism gets people talking. But the point isn't the propaganda it's the police brutality coupled with those who swear an oath to uphold the law, going out of their way to break it and deny justice. How to bring those responsible to justice and turf those who put their own fetishes above the law, the Charter and basic human rights.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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That's an indication of his mentality, not yours. :smile:

Sorry JLM that was kind of negative. So I negged you.:lol:

Sensationalism gets people talking. But the point isn't the propaganda it's the police brutality coupled with those who swear an oath to uphold the law, going out of their way to break it and deny justice. How to bring those responsible to justice and turf those who put their own fetishes above the law, the Charter and basic human rights.

Wrapping the truth in bullsh1t is an ineffective way of getting justice.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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That's OK I can handle it. :lol: If you follow the thread back, I think I was within my rights!

If it makes you feel any better, you were my first. I was a neg virgin before this moment, but it really didn't mean anything, I just needed to bust my cherry and you were there being so damned negative:lol::p
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Sure but it's a good way of inspiring people to seek justice for others. Don't you agree?

No I don't. Just like I don't think we should fabricate stories about old veterans arriving in France and declaring: "I didn't need a passport in 45!" I think it hurts the cause and attracts the zealots.
 

Unforgiven

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No I don't. Just like I don't think we should fabricate stories about old veterans arriving in France and declaring: "I didn't need a passport in 45!" I think it hurts the cause and attracts the zealots.

I can see where a lot of things slip past with an "oh well".

The evidence just keeps mounting in Ontario. An alleged crack house, one cop shoots another and someone who apparently didn't shoot a cop is dead.

Peterborough officer wounded by fellow officer’s gun

Ontario’s police watchdog has found that at least one of Peterborough police Const. Keith Calderwood’s injuries was inflicted by a fellow officer’s gun.

Calderwood was shot and wounded during a drug raid Wednesday as he executed a warrant to search an alleged crack house in Lindsay, Ont. He has been recovering from his injuries in Toronto’s St. Michael’s Hospital since the day of the shootout. He could be released in a few days.

The information that Calderwood was shot by another police officer’s gun was uncovered as the Special Investigations Unit looked into the circumstances surrounding the death of Corey Aaron Armstrong, 21, of Morningside Ave. in Toronto.

A team has been formed to investigate how it came to happen that Calderwood was shot by a police firearm.