PM's snub of charter anniversary 'shocking': Chrétien

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Jean Chrétien said he is shocked that the Harper government has no plans to commemorate Tuesday's 25th anniversary of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

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tamarin

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Charter humbug. We didn't need the damn thing. And we should have received a vote on it. Who the hell do these politicians think they are anyway? Managers or proprietors?
 
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I'm sure Harpo would take it away if he could. It might get in the way of his George agenda
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Yawn.
Liberals trying to mesh Bush with Harper is so stale.
What does the charter have anything to do with Bush? Is Bush against the charter? Has Bush pushed to have it removed?
Dion has moved so far to the left, I just might start comparing him to his best buddy Hugo Chavez.
 
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What's truly shocking is that Chretien has yet to serve any jail time.
Sponsorship scandal.
Shewinigate.
Physically assaulting a protester.
Threatening a banker.
 
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Walter said:
Please list Mulroney's scandals.
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Others have done the work for us: go to the library and check out "On The Take" by Stevie Cameron and "A Secret Trial: Brian Mulroney, Stevie Cameron and the Public Trust," by William Kaplan.

Mulroney was a better PM than many are willing to admit; just don't try to say he was clean. . .

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Pangloss said:
Others have done the work for us: go to the library and check out "On The Take" by Stevie Cameron and "A Secret Trial: Brian Mulroney, Stevie Cameron and the Public Trust," by William Kaplan.

Mulroney was a better PM than many are willing to admit; just don't try to say he was clean. . .

Pangloss
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Stevie Cameron's allegations (so-called Airbus scandal) were not proven in court and the Canadian taxpayers had to pay millions in fines and legal fees because Cretin believed in Cameron's allegations and took Mulroney to court. I repeat: Please list Mulroney's scandals.
 
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5. Tunagate: This 1985 fiasco brought down Brian Mulroney's minister of fisheries and oceans and robbed a New Brunswick town of its main employer. The story broke on CBC's The Fifth Estate on Sept. 17, 1985: Fisheries minister John Fraser had overturned an order from his own inspectors and ordered a million cans of StarKist tuna released for sale to the public. The inspectors had said the tuna, packed at the StarKist plant in St. Andrews, N.B., was so badly spoiled that it wasn't even fit to be turned into catfood. The plant's owners had lobbied Fraser to release the cans for sale, saying they might shut the plant if the tuna couldn't be sold.

When the story broke, Fraser said he had sent samples of the tuna to two independent labs for testing, but those labs later said they hadn't finished their tests by the time Fraser decided to release the shipment. Six days after the scandal erupted, Mulroney asked Fraser to resign. In a twist the opposition parties were quick to exploit, Fraser and Mulroney both initially said that Mulroney had known about the original decision to release the tuna. The two men later said the prime minister had not known until the affair became public.

Fraser eventually went on to a new job, becoming Speaker in the House of Commons, but the 400 StarKist workers in St. Andrews weren't so lucky. The plant was shuttered after the company's market share slumped, and they were thrown out of work.


6. All the other Mulroney ministers: Pity poor Brian Mulroney. The Progressive Conservative prime minister lost an average of one cabinet minister to allegations of wrongdoing during each year of his 1984-1993 reign.

First there was Robert Coates, who stepped down as defence minister in 1985 after it was revealed that he had visited a strip club in West Germany while in that country on official business. Communications Minister Marcel Masse left over an alleged violation of the Canada Elections Act (he was later exonerated), followed closely by John Fraser.

In 1986, Minister of Regional Industrial Expansion Sinclair Stevens stepped down because of conflict of interest allegations related to a $2.6-million loan to a Stevens family company. André Bissonnette, the minister of state for transport, resigned in 1987 while the RCMP investigated his alleged involvement in land speculation. Roch La Salle, who served Mulroney in the public works, and supply and services portfolios, left cabinet the same year after being charged with demanding a bribe and accepting money from businesses looking for government favours. The charges were later dropped.

Conflict of interest allegations involving a personal loan felled Supply and Services Minister Michel Coté in 1988. Bernard Valcourt stepped down in 1989 after pleading guilty to an impaired driving offence. In 1990, current Quebec Premier Jean Charest had to leave his two posts as minister for fitness and amateur sport, and minister for youth after trying to talk to a judge about an ongoing case.

And, finally, in 1991, Housing Minister Alan Redway offered his resignation after being charged over joking about having a gun while boarding a flight at the Ottawa airport. Not a cabinet minister but equally embarrassing to the Conservatives was Quebec MP Michel Gravel, who in 1986 was charged with 50 counts of fraud and influence peddling. He later pleaded guilty to 15 charges, paid a $50,000 fine and served four months in jail.
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- http://www.cbc.ca/canadavotes/analysiscommentary/scandals.html
And what's sad is that Mulroney is right about the Airbus settlement he got. $30+million. It wasn't the RCMP that destroyed his reputation, it was himself.

Um, I might add that the courts didn't find O J Simpson guilty either.
 
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Walter said:
Stevie Cameron's allegations (so-called Airbus scandal) were not proven in court and the Canadian taxpayers had to pay millions in fines and legal fees because Cretin believed in Cameron's allegations and took Mulroney to court.
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Last I heard, Chretien was trying to sue the government for millions over adscam (like Mulroney did). If, hypothetically speaking, Chretien was to win his case, do you think that would make him innocent?

Nothing was proven in court against either Mulroney or Chretien...that doesn't make them innocent.
 
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