Pierre Poilievre

[Jinentonix]

Yep, scary monster.

China is a rich, large country looking to extend its footprint and power by means overt and covert.

Well, THAT's never happened before!

It's not rich anymore. Xi squandered China's Western-built fortune on vanity projects and screwing over Western tech partners.
China can't even manufacture their own 7nm, or smaller, microchips.
All those high speed trains they built? Yeah, well since they fucked over Japan and Germany on the tech agreement China is unable to source or manufacture the wheels it needs to build more and maintain the current fleet it already has. Japan and Germany are the ONLY countries in the world capable of manufacturing wheels that are good enough for high speed rail.
Everything about China under Xi is fucking scammy. His BRI is just a debt trap for poor nations. They only ones it helps is China, leaving the target country in a position where it has to give up control of important infrastructure or land to China.
All the while it oppresses the fuck out of its own people, uses rape as a form of torture, engages in involuntary organ "donation" and has a province dedicated to slavery and genocide.
In Africa, Chinese businesses and companies don't hire locals, workers are shipped from China, live and work in appalling conditions and are treated as little more than wage slaves. Well at least their enslaving their own while in Africa so there's that, I guess.

There's two China's. There's the beautiful, happy, everyone gets along China that the CCP wants you to believe exists. Then there's the real China. They literally burn highly radioactive coal in at least one of their power plants.
When the dams are close to bursting at the seams they release a massive flood of water but don't tell downstream communities about it until AFTER they've been flooded by it.

If you want some insight into the real CCP's China, I recommend checking out 'China Observer' and 'China Uncensored' on Youtube.

 

[petros]

It's not rich anymore. Xi squandered China's Western-built fortune on vanity projects and screwing over Western tech partners.
China can't even manufacture their own 7nm, or smaller, microchips.
All those high speed trains they built? Yeah, well since they fucked over Japan and Germany on the tech agreement China is unable to source or manufacture the wheels it needs to build more and maintain the current fleet it already has. Japan and Germany are the ONLY countries in the world capable of manufacturing wheels that are good enough for high speed rail.
Everything about China under Xi is fucking scammy. His BRI is just a debt trap for poor nations. They only ones it helps is China, leaving the target country in a position where it has to give up control of important infrastructure or land to China.
All the while it oppresses the fuck out of its own people, uses rape as a form of torture, engages in involuntary organ "donation" and has a province dedicated to slavery and genocide.
In Africa, Chinese businesses and companies don't hire locals, workers are shipped from China, live and work in appalling conditions and are treated as little more than wage slaves. Well at least their enslaving their own while in Africa so there's that, I guess.

There's two China's. There's the beautiful, happy, everyone gets along China that the CCP wants you to believe exists. Then there's the real China. They literally burn highly radioactive coal in at least one of their power plants.
When the dams are close to bursting at the seams they release a massive flood of water but don't tell downstream communities about it until AFTER they've been flooded by it.

If you want some insight into the real CCP's China, I recommend checking out 'China Observer' and 'China Uncensored' on Youtube.

BRI is China's own IMF type operation. Dirty AF.

 

[Serryah]

It's not rich anymore. Xi squandered China's Western-built fortune on vanity projects and screwing over Western tech partners.
China can't even manufacture their own 7nm, or smaller, microchips.
All those high speed trains they built? Yeah, well since they fucked over Japan and Germany on the tech agreement China is unable to source or manufacture the wheels it needs to build more and maintain the current fleet it already has. Japan and Germany are the ONLY countries in the world capable of manufacturing wheels that are good enough for high speed rail.
Everything about China under Xi is fucking scammy. His BRI is just a debt trap for poor nations. They only ones it helps is China, leaving the target country in a position where it has to give up control of important infrastructure or land to China.
All the while it oppresses the fuck out of its own people, uses rape as a form of torture, engages in involuntary organ "donation" and has a province dedicated to slavery and genocide.
In Africa, Chinese businesses and companies don't hire locals, workers are shipped from China, live and work in appalling conditions and are treated as little more than wage slaves. Well at least their enslaving their own while in Africa so there's that, I guess.

There's two China's. There's the beautiful, happy, everyone gets along China that the CCP wants you to believe exists. Then there's the real China. They literally burn highly radioactive coal in at least one of their power plants.
When the dams are close to bursting at the seams they release a massive flood of water but don't tell downstream communities about it until AFTER they've been flooded by it.

If you want some insight into the real CCP's China, I recommend checking out 'China Observer' and 'China Uncensored' on Youtube.

And you called me out for being "Racist" about China, when in reality it was all THIS that I abhor about them.

 

[Serryah]

Poilievre has a great ad out about finding better trading partners and he found one. We share similar cultures and values with them. We have the same climate. We both even have English and French as official languages. One problem, there's a trade barrier that costs $5100/yr/Canadian. That country is....Canada.

I've been questioning for a couple of decades or so now about why the hell are we seeking free trade agreements with other countries when we don't even have free trade between our own provinces? See, it's shit like that that makes me feel like Canada is a less of an actual country and more a loose federation of very self-interested regions who act like the rest of the country doesn't matter, or even exist at all.

Honestly I hope that we do away with the trade barriers.

But the biggest issue will be the continuity without Federal oversight, which means the Provinces get together and... make agreements? Set up commissions to oversee it all?

It can be done; there was a guy from northern NB who sued over alcohol he brought over from Quebec and with public pressure things changed.

The public just has to keep up the pressure to do these changes.

(as an aside from the health care perspective, this would SERIOUSLY benefit nursing and other jobs if they could streamline all the qualifications to be one National standard. Then nurses could live and work anywhere without problems.)

 

[Jinentonix]

And you called me out for being "Racist" about China, when in reality it was all THIS that I abhor about them.

Well, that's only because you threw the racism card at me first when I mentioned China and the Panama Canal. Get off your high uppity fuck horse and start taking some ownership of the bullshit you spew.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Well, that's only because you threw the racism card at me first when I mentioned China and the Panama Canal. Get off your high uppity fuck horse and start taking some ownership of the bullshit you spew.

Are we gonna have to separate you two?

 

[Serryah]

Well, that's only because you threw the racism card at me first when I mentioned China and the Panama Canal. Get off your high uppity fuck horse and start taking some ownership of the bullshit you spew.

I told you why you got that racist card.

Not my issue if it fits, and you can't read.

But I also told you that I despise China's Government, not the people. Disliking a Government isn't racism.

You on the other hand using "Honk Kong" shows it's the people you don't like, so...

 

[Serryah]

Are we gonna have to separate you two?

There's not enough poles on the planet to keep Jinny separate enough from me

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

There's not enough poles on the planet to keep Jinny separate enough from me

Kinda like there weren't enough Poles to keep the Nazis outta Russia. C'est la vie.

 

[petros]

I told you why you got that racist card.

Not my issue if it fits, and you can't read.

But I also told you that I despise China's Government, not the people. Disliking a Government isn't racism.

You on the other hand using "Honk Kong" shows it's the people you don't like, so...

The people are just like the Govt. Racist as fuck.

 

[Jinentonix]

I told you why you got that racist card.

Yeah, because you can't tell the difference between a people and an ideology.

Not my issue if it fits, and you can't read.

I can read. You're just a fucking moron with massive comprehension issues..

But I also told you that I despise China's Government, not the people. Disliking a Government isn't racism.

Except when I do it apparently, ya fucking stunned twat.

You on the other hand using "Honk Kong" shows it's the people you don't like, so...

Oh fuck...right...off. Hong Kong is now a province within the CCP's China under complete CCP control. Go learn some geo-politics for fuck sakes. Any China-based business that operates out of country is under strict CCP control.
I'm also pro-Taiwan independence and have stated such a few times in this forum but that's because I'm soooo fucking racist towards Chinese people, right?
Products made in Taiwan tend to be of good to high quality. I'll buy Taiwanese goods anytime but that's only because I don't like Chinese people, right?

Troll.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

The people are just like the Govt. Racist as fuck.

And that's on them, if true.

Doesn't excuse any racism you may harbo(u)r.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Troll.

Wiener.

 

[Jinentonix]

There's not enough poles on the planet to keep Jinny separate enough from me

There ain't enough space in the galaxy to keep you separate enough from me.

 

[Taxslave2]

Are we gonna have to separate you two?

I'd throw them in the same bed and see what pops out.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I'd throw them in the same bed and see what pops out.

Can we throw 'em in the river and see if they float?

 

[Taxslave2]

Can we throw 'em in the river and see if they float?

Around here, maybe. You have rivers I wouldn't even throw people I don't like into. Float or cling.

 

[Serryah]

Yeah, because you can't tell the difference between a people and an ideology.

Evidently I can.

I side with the Palestinian people vs. Hamas, don't I?

Oh, and the Israeli people who are AGAINST the current Government's Genocide.

So there's that.

Meanwhile... you don't do any of that, you're just "fuck them all" because you can't differentiate at all.

I can read. You're just a fucking moron with massive comprehension issues..

Nah, you can't, obviously.

Except when I do it apparently, ya fucking stunned twat.

No, but keep whining 'bout it.

Oh fuck...right...off.

Aww, is getting called out for you being an asshole racist making you mad, Jin?

Would it soothe your feefees if I just said you were a bigot instead?

Hong Kong is now a province within the CCP's China under complete CCP control.

Wow! I'm shocked you know that, considering how normally self centred you are.

Wait, you said Hong Kong... so you DO know how to say the name of the Island properly... then why the fuck call it Honk Kong? Is it because you hate China... or you're just a bigot (see, I'll drop the racist stuff to bigot just for you!) but you wanna seem, you know, not so much of one now?

Yes, yes it IS under CCP control despite the people wanting otherwise. Of course the CCP is also breaking the agreements it had when it took over Hong Kong but you know... that's a whole other thread to discuss.

Go learn some geo-politics for fuck sakes.

I do know geo-politics; apparently more than you do in a lot of instances.

Any China-based business that operates out of country is under strict CCP control.

Do you want a cookie for knowing that basic, middle school knowledge?

I'm also pro-Taiwan independence and have stated such a few times in this forum but that's because I'm soooo fucking racist towards Chinese people, right?

You want another cookie?

For all that Taiwan is mostly Han Chinese and those who fled Mao with Sun Yat-sen, there's enough of a divide between them, the indigenous populace and those who would rather not be part of China to call them Taiwanese, not Chinese. Cause, you know, respect.

Products made in Taiwan tend to be of good to high quality.

Sure, that's why they're the biggest target of China right now, for their chips.

I don't know why you're throwing out this common knowledge as if it's some shiney new information you just HAD to share...

I'll buy Taiwanese goods anytime but that's only because I don't like Chinese people, right?

You'll buy Taiwanese goods because they're from Taiwan, not China.

But you can still not like them, you can still be a bigot, Jin. I mean, by your logic, just because you have that one black friend you can't be racist.

Troll.

Yeah, you are, but you're a cute one, that's why I still talk to you.

 

[Serryah]

I'd throw them in the same bed and see what pops out.

Oh well that was just gross of you, Tax.

 

[B00Mer]

Our next PM, because if he's not.. there will be blood in the streets..

Too many Canadian have had enough.. maybe another FLQ crisis

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