Peel Region is the 5th Largest Government in Canada:

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Peel Region is the 5th Largest Government in Canada:

In order of Government Size:

1) Federal Govenment of Canada
2) Province of Ontario
3) City of Toronto
4) City of Montreal
5) Region of Peel

How could Canadians have been so stupid as to alow the Street Sweeping and Garbage Collection Organization created 30 years ago to become the fifth largest government in this country?

Peel Region is the most blatant examples of the huge Structural Problem with the Province of Ontario that is wasting BILLIONS of dollars each year.
 
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iamcanadian said:
Peel Region is the 5th Largest Government in Canada:

In order of Government Size:

1) Federal Govenment of Canada
2) Province of Ontario
3) City of Toronto
4) City of Montreal
5) Region of Peel

How could Canadians have been so stupid as to alow the Street Sweeping and Garbage Collection Organization created 30 years ago to become the fifth largest government in this country?

Peel Region is the most blatant examples of the huge Structural Problem with the Province of Ontario that is wasting BILLIONS of dollars each year.
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Called democracy "Iamcanadian"
 
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Called Demockery "Finder".

Democracy has nothing to do with what the Regions do. The people in the Province who created the Regions and those that maintain it are acting against democratic interest to prevent peoples votes from having any say in Government Activity that are downloaded to the Regions.

You can call it Dictatorship, but NOT Democracy. There is no democracy in anything Regions do.
 
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ok, well according to the Toronto Star (http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...pagepath=Editorial/Opinion&pubid=968163964505) Toronto is the 6th largest government in Canada, not the 3rd. Peel is an extremely large region, and until Toronto assimilates Pickering/Ajax and Mississauga, guess it's going to stay that way.
I have no opinion though on whether or not Peel is a blatant waste or not of the taxpayers money. However, if you would provide an example of what exactly you consider waste, and provide some facts, I would appreciate it thanks
 
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look "iamcanada", in a society we chose to form governments, these governments are elected by the people in turn the representives then determine what the people voted for in them. Thus you get things like departments made for cleaning the streets removing the trash from your side walk once or twice a week and so on. These services have to be paid for and thus we are taxed. To make things simple the City government hirers the people to remove the trash from your side walk and it's both cost effect and well just simple this way. Elected government employees like you have said many times in the past is just.... well to say bluntly stupid.

Secondly if you knew one thing about local government is they are basically powerless and depend heavily on the provincial government for any of their power, which is extremly little in the first place. Local governments are not dictatorships, it's time to take the tin foil off your head and grow up "iamcanadian".
 
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Well Finder, look's like you need to study a little more and get off the crap the Regional Media pays to deliver your way.

The Networked Nine Regional "so called governments" are not local governments, they are something else. Most people don't know what they are.

Region's are Very Powerful Public Business Spending Institutions and they carry more clout that anything at the Province.

The Elected in the Provice of Ontario PANDER to the Dark Nine Regions so they will get help getting elected.

The Dark Nine Lords of Canadian Politics in Ontario are all powerful with Tens of Billions of Dollars under their unfetered control and without any supervision or scrutiny.

They CONTROL the Politics, the Policing and the JUDICIAL systems of Ontario and every bureaucracy and social system and EVEN JUDGES are beholden to them and their huge public purse in the hands of a dozen employeed individuals who have not integrity and no accountability to anyone.

Give up politics before you get in and start being another part of the problem due to your lack of information, brainwashing or otherwise functioning as a SHIL for Regional Government in Ontario and their corrupt ways of life.

You apparently believe in people having integrity in Regional Government. There is no integrity. Its a cespool of ingrained incestious relationships that has festered there for thirty years or more, acquiring ever more corrupt individuals as they congragate there like birds of a feather.
 
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Grow up "iamcanadian" How do you propose to fix this problem?
All I hear from you is bitching and whinning about regional governments all the time. If not regional governments, it's about the french and if it's not the French in Ontario you are whinning about it's judges.
 
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Expose' of Ontario's Regions' Structural Problems
Public discussion forum info blog to advancing Single Tier Municipalities in Ontario for Smaller Municipal Democratic Structures
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And a small forum where your loonies all come together to complain about regional governments is supposed to prove something?

The main problem with regional governments is they have no power. Local government is were I'd love to see power given to as it is the closest to the people yet loonies like you "iamcanadian" have some kind of mistrust of them. I still don't understand what your point is with the Peel regional government? Just like Toronto or any other region we need a local government and we need people working for these governments. It's like you just don't get how modern society acts.

You must be one of those people who had to wait in a line up once to renew some sort of municipal/regional licence of some sort and by the time it was your turn they went on lunch or something and you have some odd strange hate on for local government employees and think they rule Canada (as you have eluded in a sence in the past).
 
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I've hated regional governments ever since one of them ran over my dog.

Edit: I'm impressed that many great figures in history - Plato, C.S Lewis etc. have decided to contribute to that forum

Also, I like my region. Call me crazy.
 
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Re: RE: Peel Region is the 5th Largest Government in Canada:

iamcanadian said:
Finder,

Regional Government has all the government power and none of the govenment accountability or democratic controls.
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same decratic controls as every other level of government, if not more since they are extremely limited to what they can and can not do.
 
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Finder, you said you are running for Municipal Office yet you don't have a clue what you are saying.

I strongly suggest you don't run for public office till you find out what's what and who's who.

Regional Government are Anti-democratic. There is no elected leader or party in control and there is no Public Accountability for anything.

They are the most powerful kind of government you can have since they are hidden dictatorship in the hands of a few very powerful bureaucrats who do as they please when spending Tens of Billions of dollars each year without ANY SAY by anyone elected.

You are either completely ignorant of what the Regional Government in Ontario is and does, or you are running for office to be another shill for them like the majority of the sleezze bag politicians currently elected in Regional Seats in Ontario making up the Mafia-like Organization forever know as the Dark Nine Networked Regional Outside-of-Control Public Spending Spree Organizations.

They have no integrity and are run by a bunch of common sleezy thugs and bullies and Pimp the majority of elected whore puppets that support them.
 
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Re: RE: Peel Region is the 5th Largest Government in Canada:

unlimitednrg said:
the link just took me to another forum. Sorry, but that isn't a legitimate example to me, but thanks anyways
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It not a forum. Its and INFO/Forum where examples of problems with Regional Government in Ontario that exposes by example the illigitimate organizations that control political, social and judicial systems in Canada.

The Regions are the cesspol where the worse (i.e. most EVIL and CORRUPT) public administrators congregate to sysphon hundreds of millions of dollars each year from the public purse, manipulate Provicials and Federal laws, rules and elections.

Canada's worst elected official are ingrained in them and cannot be removed with the Region's ability to manipulate who gets elected, and general freedom to cause individuals harm by using their network that manages most of the polictal Corruption of Canada.
 
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