I hope this goes here, if not then please move it but I was searching around and found this article.
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What do all of you guys think about this?
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What do all of you guys think about this?
Pedophiles to launch political party
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Disqusting. I wouldn't want a party like that but I would think it would be hard in a nation like Holland to ban a party. Have to check into it.
RE: Pedophiles
I think that this party is advocating unlawful behaviour and, therefore, should be banned. I know that Canada has banned parties from participating in the process in the past (unless I am mistaken, I think that members were arrested from the House of Commons during, or near, one of the wars). However, such mechanisms would be particular to each country, so this would depend on the case.
I think that this party is advocating unlawful behaviour and, therefore, should be banned. I know that Canada has banned parties from participating in the process in the past (unless I am mistaken, I think that members were arrested from the House of Commons during, or near, one of the wars). However, such mechanisms would be particular to each country, so this would depend on the case.
Just wow! Even the liberal Dutsh are turned off!
Just one point of technicality, 5Par. I don't think they're promoting breaking the law by having sex with kids, but rather changing the law so as to make it legal. So from that standpoint, they cannot be legally accused of promoting criminal activity. But I realise that's just a point of technicality.
Should such a party even be allowed to exist? Well, as a party, thy're not creating too much damage I suppose, as sick as it is.
On another note, however, should there be an international limit? For instance, in some nations girls can get married at twelve. I think while even fifteen is a little young, it would still be a reasonable international standard even for the poorest nations (the poorest would have an obligation to protect all under that age, while developped nations would have a duty to assist in that process should their help be requested. After all, we're talking about children here, the next generation of this planet.
Such an international law would thus make it harder for parties such as the one above to try to pull their stunts. After all, if they do make it legal under the internationally recognised standard age, they would thus be breaking international law, thus making such a move even more taboo (seems to not be taboo enough as is!?)
What would be your thoughts on such an international law, or does any similar law already exist? And if so, what is the minimum age? If too low, I think bringing it up to fifteen would be reasonable even for the poorest nations if we could all pull together to help.
For more developped nations, definitely keep the age higher of course. And in Utah, just keep up the good work with poligammy.
Just one point of technicality, 5Par. I don't think they're promoting breaking the law by having sex with kids, but rather changing the law so as to make it legal. So from that standpoint, they cannot be legally accused of promoting criminal activity. But I realise that's just a point of technicality.
Should such a party even be allowed to exist? Well, as a party, thy're not creating too much damage I suppose, as sick as it is.
On another note, however, should there be an international limit? For instance, in some nations girls can get married at twelve. I think while even fifteen is a little young, it would still be a reasonable international standard even for the poorest nations (the poorest would have an obligation to protect all under that age, while developped nations would have a duty to assist in that process should their help be requested. After all, we're talking about children here, the next generation of this planet.
Such an international law would thus make it harder for parties such as the one above to try to pull their stunts. After all, if they do make it legal under the internationally recognised standard age, they would thus be breaking international law, thus making such a move even more taboo (seems to not be taboo enough as is!?)
What would be your thoughts on such an international law, or does any similar law already exist? And if so, what is the minimum age? If too low, I think bringing it up to fifteen would be reasonable even for the poorest nations if we could all pull together to help.
For more developped nations, definitely keep the age higher of course. And in Utah, just keep up the good work with poligammy.
In Utah pologomy is illegal, you can get 15 years to life in prison if your caught. This guy named tom green (not the actor) is serving a life sentence for pologomy in Utah State Prison.
Talk to a Mormon about Pologomy and they'll tell you how bad or good depending on their view point of it. Most are against it and what makes no sense to me is the Mormon's made pologomy famous yet they say it's a sin.
Talk to a Mormon about Pologomy and they'll tell you how bad or good depending on their view point of it. Most are against it and what makes no sense to me is the Mormon's made pologomy famous yet they say it's a sin.
Riyko said:
Sorry, my bad. I was being tongue in cheek there, but can how how it might have been in bad taste. Sorry.
On a more serious note though, do you know if there is in fact an international standard already protecting children under a certain age? and if so, what age is that? I'm not sure where I could look that information up very quickly.
Machjo said:
It's ok I don't like it here in Utah, but I have no choice to live here. I understand what you we're staying because Utah is known as the pologomist state and they don't ever tell people that it's illegal just that it's well known here. I don't blame you I blame the fact that the media refuses to inform people about the fact that it's changed.
With the international standard I think it's different in every country. The US it's illegal if your under 18, some countries it's 16 and others it's 20, 18, 21. I think it depends on the country and what their sex policy is like. You might find the information on Google or wikipedia.
a) p-o-l-y-g-a-m-i-s-t
b) Polygamy was outlawed by Utah's constitution as a condition of admission into the US as a state.
c) In the US the age of consent varies from state to state, but is usually 16, while the viewing of porn or the age when one can legally be victimized by a pornographer is 18.
In other words, one may have sex with a 16 yr old as long as pictures aren't taken. Makes sense, huh?
b) Polygamy was outlawed by Utah's constitution as a condition of admission into the US as a state.
c) In the US the age of consent varies from state to state, but is usually 16, while the viewing of porn or the age when one can legally be victimized by a pornographer is 18.
In other words, one may have sex with a 16 yr old as long as pictures aren't taken. Makes sense, huh?
In Europe a joke goes like this:
What are Belgian men hold onto while having sex?
The answer: The backpack of pupils!
This is not laughable but rather disgusting; the dirty joke as well as the story from Holland.
So if SSM is ok, what is nexts?
Slippery road I would say.
Pierre Eliott just wanted to get the Government out of the bedroom of the Nation, not the(of whatever perversion) bedroom out into the nation!!!
What are Belgian men hold onto while having sex?
The answer: The backpack of pupils!
This is not laughable but rather disgusting; the dirty joke as well as the story from Holland.
So if SSM is ok, what is nexts?
Slippery road I would say.
Pierre Eliott just wanted to get the Government out of the bedroom of the Nation, not the(of whatever perversion) bedroom out into the nation!!!
I don't believe they are in the right and I think what they do is completely wrong. But I think banning political parties is a sketchy area. Canada has had not so good of a history with banning plitical parties for the right reasons. The Communist Party of Canada was banned for periods in the 20's 30's 40's and 50's (not all threw those times but often enough). This also effected the Progressive Labour party of Canada which was the "legal" offshoot and had an elected member in Parliment during the 40's. It should be extremely difficult to ban any political party in a nation and I think this one could fall on those which we could ban but there would have to be a clear cut line. Breakig the law is not that line as the marijuana party does not believe in the law which bans marijuana, and almost every party wishes to change a law they disagree agree with, so as for a party being lawful that is in the eye of the beholder.
Generally I think letting these types of people orginize as such will actually help law enforcement adgenzies find new pedophiles really.
Anyhow this is an extremely sticky issue and being a political libertarian its hard for me to say any party should be banned but this one would be one of the first on my list.
Generally I think letting these types of people orginize as such will actually help law enforcement adgenzies find new pedophiles really.
Anyhow this is an extremely sticky issue and being a political libertarian its hard for me to say any party should be banned but this one would be one of the first on my list.
I am not talking about this party in direcly but if a party is so 'vile' for not a better word, banning it does no good because it may get the interest of people and it will go underground. The best thing to do is to not vote for it, and besides you have your good olde neighborhood cop who can follow these guys around because they are going around in public. 
Jersay said:I am not talking about this party in direcly but if a party is so 'vile' for not a better word, banning it does no good because it may get the interest of people and it will go underground. The best thing to do is to not vote for it, and besides you have your good olde neighborhood cop who can follow these guys around because they are going around in public.
Thats sorta what I was thinking about to. It makes it a lot easy to track with these people in the open. I bet you could find people you would never have caught other wise.
I don't know I doubt you'd ever see anything like this in Canada however. We are talking about North-West Europe here!
Agreed. Kind of make the police jobs easy. You never no, the perv in Canada maybe are watching this and maybe create their own party. So they can all be caught like cattle.