Ontario Farmers Protest
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RE: Ontario Farmers Prote
Like most farm groups...some good some bad. They need to listen to organic growers and environmentalists more and work with those groups to get meaningful changes to legislation. That is in their long-term interests because environmental problems affect them directly and organic farming methods allow them to offer a superior product at a premium price.
They have valid concern though, especially when it comes to the subsidy crisis that is at the very root of their economic problems. The US subsidy regime has pushed small farmers all over the US and Canada, yet the Canadian government does nothing more than complain. It is time to go to the NAFTA and WTO panels and fight to have those subsidies removed.
Groups like Rural Revolution (and there are several of them scattered around the country need to get politically smarter though...the Canadian government cannot afford the kind of subsidies that the US has in place and there is no use trying to fight that battle.
Farm groups are far better off enlisting the help of American farm groups that represent small American farmers, who face the same basic problem with US subsidies as farmers in Canada; get involved in the globalization movement like farmers all over the planet are doing; and begin to educate people in urban areas about their problems. They also need to listen to the people in urban areas because those are, in the end, their customers.
Like most farm groups...some good some bad. They need to listen to organic growers and environmentalists more and work with those groups to get meaningful changes to legislation. That is in their long-term interests because environmental problems affect them directly and organic farming methods allow them to offer a superior product at a premium price.
They have valid concern though, especially when it comes to the subsidy crisis that is at the very root of their economic problems. The US subsidy regime has pushed small farmers all over the US and Canada, yet the Canadian government does nothing more than complain. It is time to go to the NAFTA and WTO panels and fight to have those subsidies removed.
Groups like Rural Revolution (and there are several of them scattered around the country need to get politically smarter though...the Canadian government cannot afford the kind of subsidies that the US has in place and there is no use trying to fight that battle.
Farm groups are far better off enlisting the help of American farm groups that represent small American farmers, who face the same basic problem with US subsidies as farmers in Canada; get involved in the globalization movement like farmers all over the planet are doing; and begin to educate people in urban areas about their problems. They also need to listen to the people in urban areas because those are, in the end, their customers.
Re: RE: Ontario Farmers Prote
Who needs to listen to people who think milk comes from a carton or a bag...
What do urbanites know, or for that matter care, about the plight of our farming communities?
Damn morons care more about giving foreign aid to shithole countries in the third world than helping our farming communities. They only care about having cheap food and farmers be damned. The fools don't understand that in order to keep prices down more and more of our crops are being fertilised with toxic sewage sludge laced with chemicals like brominated diphenyl ethers.
Reverend Blair said:
Who needs to listen to people who think milk comes from a carton or a bag...
What do urbanites know, or for that matter care, about the plight of our farming communities?
Damn morons care more about giving foreign aid to shithole countries in the third world than helping our farming communities. They only care about having cheap food and farmers be damned. The fools don't understand that in order to keep prices down more and more of our crops are being fertilised with toxic sewage sludge laced with chemicals like brominated diphenyl ethers.
RE: Ontario Farmers Prote
And you sure as hell won't get very far talking to them like that, Mediana.
The truth is that you talk to them reasonably and listen to their concerns (factory farming, excessive chemical usage, depleted wetlands) you will find that an ever growing number of them not only empathize with farmers, but are willing to work with them to solve common problems.
Or you can rant and yell and scream while you starve to death. Your choice.
And you sure as hell won't get very far talking to them like that, Mediana.
The truth is that you talk to them reasonably and listen to their concerns (factory farming, excessive chemical usage, depleted wetlands) you will find that an ever growing number of them not only empathize with farmers, but are willing to work with them to solve common problems.
Or you can rant and yell and scream while you starve to death. Your choice.
RE: Ontario Farmers Prote
We're all going to die of cancers long before the spectre of famine ever makes an appearance.
As you sit in front of your machine reading this, industrial chemicals (numbering in the hundreds) that never existed in the days of your grandparents are coursing through your bloodstream.
Time is running out and people aren't going to be easily swayed to give up their addiction to cheap, industrial processed food.
We're all going to die of cancers long before the spectre of famine ever makes an appearance.
As you sit in front of your machine reading this, industrial chemicals (numbering in the hundreds) that never existed in the days of your grandparents are coursing through your bloodstream.
Time is running out and people aren't going to be easily swayed to give up their addiction to cheap, industrial processed food.
Whose land is it anyway?
By
James Bredin
Farmers you see have no rights in or on or near their land,
A Canadian Charter phenomenon some say is grand,
Farms without property rights will now be green belt,
Farmers finally realize the hand that they’ve been dealt.
The Chretien/Trudeau Charter is from 1982,
Written for refugees and not farmers but who knew?
But politicians knew exactly what they were doing,
Appointee judge-made-laws so farmers get the screwing.
Their Charter was written for “Everyone” in creation,
Ben Laden, rogue refugees from developing nation,
Farmers don’t count in this grand UN international deal,
Socialists draw lines on the map so land they can steal.
Farmers got in their tractors and drove to Queen’s Park,
Politicians shook their heads and made no remark,
This is the result of the so called Charter of Rights,
You could loose your land under the northern lights.
Desperate farmers don’t count in the greater scheme of things,
Nor did they count under Stalin or those near Beijing,
It’s the international socialist policies that count,
They say our farmers should take all this into account.
Saturday, March 12, 2005
http://tinyurl.com/43pmn
Not exactly what I meant, but don't count on it.
And this has to do with the farm crisis how?
You'd be surprised.
The dairy farmers. You have to listen to your customers.
Not much, but rural communities haven't done a lot to teach them, either.
When in doubt, resort to narrow-minded xenophobia. Those "shithole" countries that receive Canadian aid buy a lot of grain with their aid money. The famers in those countries are also your natural allies because they have the same problem with US subsidies that you do.