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The difference is, poo tin is not afraid to use a nuke. The Democrats currently controlling the US don't have the balls to retaliate. This is the main reason Russia does not want Trump to win the election. Russia may be controlled by bullies, but they are not that stupid.
Yes he is scared shitless. He is pulling a Saddam Hussein move of "cross this line and you die" bullshit of empty threats.
 
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The difference is, poo tin is not afraid to use a nuke. The Democrats currently controlling the US don't have the balls to retaliate. This is the main reason Russia does not want Trump to win the election. Russia may be controlled by bullies, but they are not that stupid.
If Putin wasn't scared of crossing the line with nukes he would have already used tactical nukes on the battlefield while using illegal phosphorus rockets
 

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No, not really. The Soviet Union would have been completely fucked without all the aid coming from Britain, Canada and the US. That's what kept the Soviets in the war until they could get their shit together.
But they still won. It sure as shit wasnt Sgt Rock and Easy Company that did.
 

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Yeah. I'm sure all the manpower and equipment Germany had in western Europe was there just to give the Western Allies something to do other than pick their noses.
The samething happened to the Nazis as Napoleon. They got fat and lazy eating Ukrainian cuisine. The French still consider Ukr food as top nut.
 
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The difference is, poo tin is not afraid to use a nuke. The Democrats currently controlling the US don't have the balls to retaliate. This is the main reason Russia does not want Trump to win the election. Russia may be controlled by bullies, but they are not that stupid.
You believe this ? Why do you figure he has a death wish ?
 

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Kamala now openly supports endless war in Ukraine and wants to keep the door open to NATO membership to Ukraine
As opposed to just an endless war? This ain't ending in Ukraine unless Ukraine gets NATO's real help to end it.

Bedpan's red lines are non-existent. Red line: If NATO sends help. And... red line crossed.
Red line: No attacking Crimea or the Black Sea Fleet. And... red line crossed.
Red Line: No using NATO weapons on Russian territory. This was after Ukraine was using them in Crimea and the 4 Oblasts Bedpan claimed were Russian territory so yeah, red line crossed.
Red Line: No using NATO weapons on Russia proper. And... red line crossed.
Big Red Line: No invading Russian soil. And... big red line crossed using in part, NATO weapons.
Red line: No deep strikes into Russia with weapons provided by nuclear powers, even though Russia feels free to use long range weapons from nuclear states to bomb Ukrainian civilians. This red line will be crossed very soon. Mark my words. And you know what will happen? Bedpan will just draw yet another red line.

The crap with the rewritten Ruzzian Constitution and Lavrov using the UN platform to threaten NATO was political theatre. They do it this kind of shit because they know there's a lot of gullible turds in the West who just eat Russian shit up like it was Corn Flakes. They've been doing it for decades. Every time they claimed they had some super-duper undefeatable weapon the Western wags ooohed and aaahed like impressed school children and the Soviet/Ruzzian claims always turned out to be nothing more than the mere bluster of a fake tough guy.
 

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No, not really. The Soviet Union would have been completely fucked without all the aid coming from Britain, Canada and the US. That's what kept the Soviets in the war until they could get their shit together.
Sort of like present day Ukraine . But are they getting their shit together ?
 

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As opposed to just an endless war? This ain't ending in Ukraine unless Ukraine gets NATO's real help to end it.

Bedpan's red lines are non-existent. Red line: If NATO sends help. And... red line crossed.
Red line: No attacking Crimea or the Black Sea Fleet. And... red line crossed.
Red Line: No using NATO weapons on Russian territory. This was after Ukraine was using them in Crimea and the 4 Oblasts Bedpan claimed were Russian territory so yeah, red line crossed.
Red Line: No using NATO weapons on Russia proper. And... red line crossed.
Big Red Line: No invading Russian soil. And... big red line crossed using in part, NATO weapons.
Red line: No deep strikes into Russia with weapons provided by nuclear powers, even though Russia feels free to use long range weapons from nuclear states to bomb Ukrainian civilians. This red line will be crossed very soon. Mark my words. And you know what will happen? Bedpan will just draw yet another red line.

The crap with the rewritten Ruzzian Constitution and Lavrov using the UN platform to threaten NATO was political theatre. They do it this kind of shit they know there's a lot of gullible turds in the West who just eat Russian shit up like it was Corn Flakes. They've been doing it for decades. Every time they claimed they had some super-duper undefeatable weapon the Western wags ooohed and aaahed like impressed school children and the Soviet/Ruzzian claims always turned out to be nothing more than the mere bluster of a fake tough guy.
Okay . Has Ukraine won yet ? They have been destroying the inept Russians for three years so far .
 

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The difference is, poo tin is not afraid to use a nuke. The Democrats currently controlling the US don't have the balls to retaliate. This is the main reason Russia does not want Trump to win the election. Russia may be controlled by bullies, but they are not that stupid.
Uh huh? And how many "red lines" have been crossed so far? "You better not cross this red line or else I'll draw another red line."
 

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Sort of like present day Ukraine . But are they getting their shit together ?
Nothing like present day Ukraine. First off Ukraine doesn't even have the manpower the Soviet Union had 82 years ago. Secondly, the Soviet Union was HUGE. They could easily withdraw all, or most of their manufacturing much farther east and out of range of the German military. A luxury Ukraine doesn't have.

Are they getting their shit together? I'd say it was together since day 1 of Ruzzia's invasion. Unlike Russian soldiers in the opening phase of Barbarossa, the Ukrainians didn't surrender in droves and in fact kicked the invaders asses pretty hard. As for the Soviets in WW2? They were receiving Western aid for the entirety of their war with Germany WHILE the West was also actively engaged in war on a global scale.
 

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Nothing like present day Ukraine. First off Ukraine doesn't even have the manpower the Soviet Union had 82 years ago. Secondly, the Soviet Union was HUGE. They could easily withdraw all, or most of their manufacturing much farther east and out of range of the German military. A luxury Ukraine doesn't have.

Are they getting their shit together? I'd say it was together since day 1 of Ruzzia's invasion. Unlike Russian soldiers in the opening phase of Barbarossa, the Ukrainians didn't surrender in droves and in fact kicked the invaders asses pretty hard. As for the Soviets in WW2? They were receiving Western aid for the entirety of their war with Germany WHILE the West was also actively engaged in war on a global scale.
Great , viva Ukraine . Let them fight till the last soldier .