NYC bomb plot

JonB2004

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One person has been charged and two more are in custody in an international investigation into an alleged plot to bomb a tunnel between Manhattan and New Jersey, the FBI and security officials said Friday.

When asked whether the investigation had a Canadian connection, FBI spokesman Mark Mershon would only say six foreign governments on three continents were assisting in the investigation.
"We're not prepared to discuss the levels of co-operation," he said.
Security officials confirmed the investigation Friday after a New York newspaper reported earlier that morning that FBI agents had disrupted a plot in its early stages to blow up the Holland Tunnel, one of several tunnels connecting New Jersey and Manhattan. The goal was to cause havoc and flood New York's financial district.
Mershon wouldn't confirm the Holland Tunnel was the alleged target.
"This is a plot that would have involved martyrdom, explosives and certain of the tubes [tunnels] that connect New Jersey with Lower Manhattan," said Mershon. "We have, what we believe, is the real deal."

Assem Hammoud, a 31-year-old Lebanese man in custody in Lebanon, is facing criminal charges in connection with the investigation, said Mershon.

Lebanese police confirmed the arrest Friday, saying the man confessed to being the mastermind of the alleged plot and claimed allegiance to al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden.

Two other suspects in foreign countries are in custody but have not been charged, said Mershon.

Mershon said the FBI believes five other people are "principal players" in the alleged plot, but none are in the United States.

FBI agents and intelligence agencies from around the world had been monitoring the group for a year, Mershon said.
The FBI said it believes the suspects were about to move into a new phase of their plan, including the survey of targets and acquisition of materials needed to carry out the attack, which was to take place in October or November 2006.

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg reassured city residents that they should go about their daily lives.

"There is not one shred of evidence this has gone beyond the planning stage," said Bloomberg.

Mershon criticized the "unknown individual" who leaked the story to the Daily News, saying it "greatly complicated" what had been smooth relationships with foreign intelligence services.
"This was not the date we planned to unfold this investigation," he said.

An anonymous counterterrorism source told the Daily News that Jordanian associates of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, recently killed in a U.S. air strike in Iraq, had pledged financial and tactical support for the plot.

Authorities told the paper the plot may have been inspired by hurricane Katrina's effects in New Orleans.

Experts said that while the damage to the Holland Tunnel could have been massive, the flooding scenario was debatable for a number of reasons.

"There are ways that the city could get flooded, especially Lower Manhattan, but I don't think this is one of them," Irwin Redlener, head of the National Center for Disaster Preparedness at Columbia University, told the paper.

"It seems a little far-fetched. It's not like the water is above the island," he added. "It doesn't quite make sense."

Opened in 1927, the Holland Tunnel is protected by bedrock, concrete and steel. It has a maximum depth of nearly 30 metres and is more than 2.5 kilometres long.

Peter King, the New York congressman who chairs the House Homeland Security Committee, said he had received regular intelligence briefings on the alleged plot for several months.
"It would have been better if this had not been disclosed," he said.
The Republican representative has been one of the most ardent critics of a recent decision by the New York Times to reveal details of a government financial monitoring program aimed at tracking terrorist funding.

Check it out at CBC News: http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/07/07/nyc-tunnel-plot.html


Damn those terrorists. What horrible news to recieve on the aniversary of the London bombings. And this is why we must fight to destroy these terrorist organizations.
 

thomaska

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When asked whether the investigation had a Canadian connection, FBI spokesman Mark Mershon would only say six foreign governments on three continents were assisting in the investigation.
"We're not prepared to discuss the levels of co-operation," he said.

Don't worry, as soon as the NYT finds out who the countries were, everyone will know as well...
 

gopher

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Bomb plot uncovered just when the government knew that Rasmussen would release its latest low ratings for Bush:


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Bush_Job_Approval.htm






Bush Job Approval
Feb 2005 - Current
Approve Disapprove
Jul 7 38 60
Jul 6 40 58
Jul 5 No Polling - 4th of July
Jul 4
Jul 3
Jul 2
Jul 1
Jun 30 41 57
Jun 29 43 56
Jun 28 42 56

Jun 41 58
May 40 59
Apr 40 59
Mar 41 57
Feb 45 54
Jan 44 54
Dec 05 45 54
Nov 43 56
Oct 43 56
Sept 46 53
Aug 46 53
Jul 49 50
Dates are release dates. Surveys conducted on preceding three nights.
President Bush Job Approval
July 7, 2006



Thirty-eight percent (38%) of Americans Approve of the way that George W. Bush is performing his role as President. That’s the lowest reading since May 31. Just 17% Strongly Approve while 41% Strongly Disapprove.

The President earns Approval from 49% of Investors and 31% of those who do not invest.

Yesterday, the New York State Supreme Court ruled in favor of a state law restricting marriage to a union between a man and a woman. Sixty-eight percent (68%) of Americans believe that’s how it should be defined. Only 29% disagree. Most Americans, especially churchgoing Americans, are also opposed to gay and lesbian pastors in Christian Churches.

On a different topic, most Americans believe that election ballots should be printed in English only. There is also strong support for requiring a photo ID before people are allowed to vote.

A review of our full month data also shows that 37.0% of Americans now identify themselves as Democrats. That’s up slightly from the month before and reflects the party’s the highest percentage of the year. The number of Republicans remained essentially unchanged. Rasmussen Reports has also released state-by-state data for 19 states summarizing views on the President’s handling of five key issues: the economy, national security, energy policy, immigration, and the War in Iraq. We have also released data showing whether voters trust Republicans or Democrats on these issues.

Premium Members can see the results of our latest polling in Missouri. For the public site, we have most recently released polls on the Senate and Governor races in New Mexico along with the Minnesota Governor and Senate race. Other recent releases include Governor’s races in Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania, as well as Senate races in New Jersey, Ohio, and Pennsylvania.

In addition to our daily updates, we summarize our polling data on a full month basis to highlight the larger trends in American politics. As for President Bush, our monthly polling of 15,000 adults shows that the short-term trend remains flat. Compared to a year ago, however, his numbers remain down significantly.

Rasmussen Reports data for the full month of June shows that 41% of Americans approve of the way that George W. Bush is performing his role as President. That’s up a point from May, but seven points below year ago levels.

The nation’s first President, George Washington, was named the greatest of the Founding Fathers by 39% of American adults. Thomas Jefferson came in second. Another survey found that just 51% of Americans believe the U.S. lives up to its rhetoric as a nation with “liberty and justice for all.” Forty-one percent (41%) disagree.

All polling firms use a weighting process to insure that survey samples reflect the population at large according to a variety of characteristics. At Rasmussen Reports, we adjust our party identification weighting targets each month based upon actual survey results from the previous 90 days. For the month of June, our party weighting targets will be 36.6% Democrat, 33.3% Republican, and 30.1% unaffiliated. This is only a minimal change from the targets for the month of May. These targets apply to samples of all adults, rather than Likely Voters.


No small coincidence ....
 

I think not

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gopher

You're getting boring, last year during the London bombings you claimed it was a distraction for Bush's low approval ratings, apparently concocted (the bombings) on purpose.

Let me repeat this again, you implied the London bombings was an intentional distraction to Bush.

Get a grip.
 

JonB2004

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gopher

You're getting boring, last year during the London bombings you claimed it was a distraction for Bush's low approval ratings, apparently concocted (the bombings) on purpose.

Let me repeat this again, you implied the London bombings was an intentional distraction to Bush.

Get a grip.

gopher said that last year. What does he think, Bush conspired the London bombings so he could divert eyes from his low approval ratings? I'd like to ask you, gopher, what the hell would lead you to believe that the President of the United States would kill 56 Brits? Anyone who thinks that is an idiot.
 

JonB2004

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I think not said:
JonB2004 said:
What does he think, Bush conspired the London bombings so he could divert eyes from his low approval ratings?

No, he doesn't think it, he acknowledges it as a fact.

gopher, you're an idiot, plain and simple. Quit with the damn conspiracy theories.
 

Jo

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Believe me, everyone in England was very aware of the threat that could have happened here too. I live 40 miles from London and was scared like everyone else for a long time after the London bombings last year. We are still scared now. Something could happen at anytime.
 

dekhqonbacha

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It's were serious issue.
Well done by FBI.

If New York, finiancial capital of US, is hit one more time the economy of US will suffer again.

But the quetion who stands behind it?

For terrorists whether US economy is running at 100% or 90% it's still too high for them to compete. And US army still remains strong. But the countries who really compete with US economically and militarily, it's good if US economy and army were even little lower.