Non-Coalition Coalition that’s Definitely NOT a Coalition…

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Why Steven Guilbeault? Why the Trudeau Minister of Climate Change (?) to come out with this statement against the Bloc Québécois & seniors pensions?

Why not, let’s say, have the Minister Of Finance come out with this statement? Maybe the Minister of National Revenue? President of the Treasury Board who’s also the Minister of Transport?

Why not, let’s say, have the Trudeau Government’s Minister of Labour & Seniors come out with this statement? Maybe even the Minister of Citizen’s Services? Nope!! Get the Climate Change Guy out there ‘cuz Climate Change & Seniors pensions are…?

Liberal cabinet minister Steven Guilbeault says the Liberals will not be "held hostage" by the Bloc Québécois' demand to expand Old Age Security (OAS) to more seniors, because Climate Change!!! Maybe it’s ‘cuz Guilbeault probably has a penis ‘cuz it’s 2015-ish?

Former Bloc Quebecois leader Gilles Duceppe speculated that Guilbeault's comments mean there will almost certainly be an election before Christmas…assuming of course that Jagmeet Singh who ripped up and tore up the non-coalition coalition that definitely was not a coalition-type coalition agreement…he said so, repeatedly…that he ripped/tore it up…
BUT…so far that has made zero difference & The NDP has continued to support the Liberal Party at every opportunity…so?

Duceppe also weighed in on the possibility of Trudeau proroguing Parliament, a decision that Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland and Gould have insisted is NOT on the table, but one that ultimately rests with the prime minister.

With the Liberals unwilling to acquiesce to the Bloc's demands, the NDP has leverage to push new priorities as the Trudeau government only needs support from either the Bloc or NDP to stay in power. But so far, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh says he has had no conversations with the prime minister.😳

"The ongoing discussions with the house leader, that is normal, but there's been no discussion between me and the prime minister," Singh told reporters on Thursday. "There's been nothing I've been putting on the table nor has the prime minister put on the table."

Then Jagmeet claimed that he “Ripped up the Table! Absolutely tore it up! Ripped and tore up that table! Destroyed that table in a ripping and tearing action that tore and ripped it up, both, repeatedly!!!”

On Thursday, the Senate passed the pharmacare bill that was central to the previous political pact between the Liberals and NDP. The legislation requires the federal government to sign deals with provinces and territories to cover diabetes and birth-control medications as part of the public health system.

With the bill now law, Singh is urging the federal government to negotiate deals with the provinces as soon as possible.

When asked whether the federal government's progress on those deals will dictate the NDP's future support, surprisingly Singh would not answer directly.
From the guy and party that has held Canadians, Hostage.
 

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Why Steven Guilbeault? Why the Trudeau Minister of Climate Change (?) to come out with this statement against the Bloc Québécois & seniors pensions?
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Why not, let’s say, have the Minister Of Finance come out with this statement? Maybe the Minister of National Revenue? President of the Treasury Board who’s also the Minister of Transport?
Might have solved an X-File here. Perhaps it’s because of Guilbeault’s financial prowess on his own portfolio?
Why not, let’s say, have the Trudeau Government’s Minister of Labour & Seniors come out with this statement? Maybe even the Minister of Citizen’s Services? Nope!! Get the Climate Change Guy out there ‘cuz Climate Change & Seniors pensions are…?
Federal auditors have again called out the Liberal government and Environment Minister Steven Guilbeault for his department’s poor oversight of the millions of dollars spent on green subsidies.

The Liberals are content to abscond with billions of taxpayers’ dollars collected, then make flashy announcements of the “millions invested to save the planet,” but where those millions of dollars go is anyone’s guess at this point. Oh well…
(This is from 9 months ago when we only know about $150 million of the $400 million we know about, so far, on this…)

Dubbed the “green slush fund” by the Tories, the contentious program was abolished earlier this year after Auditor General Karen Hogan found dozens of conflicts of interest and that the fund awarded over $400 million in lucrative government contracts for projects that not only weren’t eligible for funding, but in some cases had nothing to do with green technology.

In June, the Conservatives successfully tabled a motion ordering production of thousands of government documents with the intention of turning them over to the RCMP, but when numerous key documents were either heavily redacted or missing altogether House Speaker Greg Fergus ruled a violation of parliamentary privilege had indeed taken place, triggering the current standoff.

In response, Opposition Leader Pierre Poilievre accused the Liberals of putting procedure ahead of due process.

“Any other employer would voluntarily turn over all of the evidence to the police if it had been ripped off by its own staff,” Poilievre said.

“What is the prime minister hiding?”
 

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(This is from 9 months ago when we only know about $150 million of the $400 million we know about, so far, on this…)
Attempts by the Conservatives to get the government to explain why the Trudeau Liberals continue to block access to thousands of documents related to the “green slush fund” scandal were roundly ignored during question period.
Dubbed the “green slush fund” by the Tories, the contentious program was abolished earlier this year after Auditor General Karen Hogan found dozens of conflicts of interest and that the fund awarded over $400 million in lucrative government contracts for projects that not only weren’t eligible for funding, but in some cases had nothing to do with green technology.
In the Opposition’s first question on Wednesday, deputy leader Melissa Lantsman asked the Liberals to explain why they’re refusing to co-operate with the production order, a stalemate that has triggered an ongoing Tory privilege motion and paralyzed the House of Commons for weeks.

“Mr. Speaker, you yourself ruled that the NDP-Liberals have violated a House order to turn over evidence to the police for a criminal investigation into their corruption,” she said.

“They’re defying your ruling and they’ve ground this place to a halt. The auditor said that there’s 400 million tax dollars and 186 conflicts of interest in question. Canadians can get accountability today if they hand over the documents to the police. So what’s in those documents and how bad is it?”
In June, the Conservatives successfully tabled a motion ordering production of thousands of government documents with the intention of turning them over to the RCMP, but when numerous key documents were either heavily redacted or missing altogether House Speaker Greg Fergus ruled a violation of parliamentary privilege had indeed taken place, triggering the current standoff.
In June, the Conservatives successfully tabled a motion ordering the production of thousands of government documents with the intention of turning them over to the RCMP, but when numerous key documents were either heavily redacted or missing altogether, House Speaker Greg Fergus ruled a violation of parliamentary privilege had taken place, triggering the current standoff.

(Despite his appearance earlier in the day at the Liberal caucus meeting, Trudeau was a no-show at question period)

Rather than offer a response, Justice Minister Arif Virani opted instead to denounce anti-Israel protesters burning Canadian flags in Vancouver during a recent protest.

“I’m glad they finally found the courage to condemn something in this House,” Lantsman noted dryly.

“But whatever is in those documents, back to the matter at hand that I asked about, must be really bad if they’re willing to hide their corruption.”

This time, Liberal House leader Karina Gould read the speaker’s original ruling on the matter, reiterating the government’s stance that the documents should be turned over to the Procedure and House Affairs Committee rather than the police.

***Lantsnan pointed out that Gould skipped over parts of the Speaker’s remarks where he ruled the Liberals were in contempt of House rules by refusing to release the documents***

“If there is nothing to hide in those documents, then they should be able to hand them over,” Lantsman said.

Gould once again ignored Lantsman’s question, maintaining that the issue should be dealt with in committee.

The quagmire was triggered by a Conservative privilege motion over the government’s refusal to hand over unredacted documents related to the now-defunct Sustainable Development Technology Canada’s billion-dollar “green slush fund.”

The contentious program was abolished earlier this year after Auditor General Karen Hogan found scores of conflicts of interest and that it had awarded over $400 million in lucrative government contracts to projects that not only weren’t eligible for funding, but in some cases had nothing to do with green technology.
 

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Attempts by the Conservatives to get the government to explain why the Trudeau Liberals continue to block access to thousands of documents related to the “green slush fund” scandal were roundly ignored during question period.

In the Opposition’s first question on Wednesday, deputy leader Melissa Lantsman asked the Liberals to explain why they’re refusing to co-operate with the production order, a stalemate that has triggered an ongoing Tory privilege motion and paralyzed the House of Commons for weeks.

“Mr. Speaker, you yourself ruled that the NDP-Liberals have violated a House order to turn over evidence to the police for a criminal investigation into their corruption,” she said.

“They’re defying your ruling and they’ve ground this place to a halt. The auditor said that there’s 400 million tax dollars and 186 conflicts of interest in question. Canadians can get accountability today if they hand over the documents to the police. So what’s in those documents and how bad is it?”

In June, the Conservatives successfully tabled a motion ordering the production of thousands of government documents with the intention of turning them over to the RCMP, but when numerous key documents were either heavily redacted or missing altogether, House Speaker Greg Fergus ruled a violation of parliamentary privilege had taken place, triggering the current standoff.

(Despite his appearance earlier in the day at the Liberal caucus meeting, Trudeau was a no-show at question period)

Rather than offer a response, Justice Minister Arif Virani opted instead to denounce anti-Israel protesters burning Canadian flags in Vancouver during a recent protest.

“I’m glad they finally found the courage to condemn something in this House,” Lantsman noted dryly.

“But whatever is in those documents, back to the matter at hand that I asked about, must be really bad if they’re willing to hide their corruption.”

This time, Liberal House leader Karina Gould read the speaker’s original ruling on the matter, reiterating the government’s stance that the documents should be turned over to the Procedure and House Affairs Committee rather than the police.

***Lantsnan pointed out that Gould skipped over parts of the Speaker’s remarks where he ruled the Liberals were in contempt of House rules by refusing to release the documents***

“If there is nothing to hide in those documents, then they should be able to hand them over,” Lantsman said.

Gould once again ignored Lantsman’s question, maintaining that the issue should be dealt with in committee.

The quagmire was triggered by a Conservative privilege motion over the government’s refusal to hand over unredacted documents related to the now-defunct Sustainable Development Technology Canada’s billion-dollar “green slush fund.”

The contentious program was abolished earlier this year after Auditor General Karen Hogan found scores of conflicts of interest and that it had awarded over $400 million in lucrative government contracts to projects that not only weren’t eligible for funding, but in some cases had nothing to do with green technology.
Who cares , life is good me and my trailer spent the summer at the lake , didn’t and don’t pay attention to politics , never have never will . I vote liberal always have always will .
 

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Bloc Québécois Leader Yves-François Blanchet said the Trudeau government’s days are numbered as he pledged to do everything in his power to overthrow it. Now, the fate of the minority government is once again in the NDP’s hands, just two months after the party “ripped up” (figuratively speaking) its supply and confidence deal with the Liberals.
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“(Trudeau’s) days are numbered… I’m ready for an election,” Blanchet said at a press conference on Parliament Hill. Now that the Bloc and the Conservatives are on board to trigger an election, the NDP is the last party protecting the Liberals from Canadian voters just like they have been for the last two years at least.

The Liberals are trailing the Conservatives by about 20 points in all national polls just like they have been for about the last year.

“We are not afraid of an election, but we are not looking for one,” NDP Leader Jagmeet “Empty Pockets” Singh said Monday. “A federal election is imminent, for sure. It is just a matter of time….like anytime between 356 & 363 days for example.

Blanchet said his party will try to convince the New Democrats to join him in bringing down the Liberals by emphasizing the “toxicity” of their relationship with the Liberals.

“I think the argument will be along the lines of ‘do you realize how much harm you’re doing to yourself by being the government’s suitcase carrier?’” he said.
Tuesday’s move comes nearly two months after NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh tore up their more than two-year-old supply and confidence agreement it had with the Trudeau Liberals, accusing the government of being too weak and beholden to its corporate interests to be a match for the Tories in the next election.

But without the support of the NDP, neither Blanchet or Opposition Leader Pierre Poilievre would have enough votes in the House for a successful non-confidence motion.

On that note, Liberal cabinet ministers, heading into their weekly cabinet meeting, were largely unconcerned.
 

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I think I'm going to be happier when Guibeault is gone.
He reminds me of an attack dog, but not a scary dog like a Belgian Shepard.
He's more of a mangy pomeranian that nips at your ankles.
"Won't be held Hostage by the Bloc?"
I wish someone in Ottawa would sink these fuckers.
What a goddamned mess.
 
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Ron in Regina

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I think I'm going to be happier when Guibeault is gone.
He reminds me of an attack dog, but not a scary dog like a Belgian Shepard.
He's more of a mangy pomeranian that nips at your ankles.
"Won't be held Hostage by the Bloc?"
I wish someone in Ottawa would sink these fuckers.
What a goddamned mess.
Jagmeet will vote Libs no matter what unless he knows for sure that the bloc will vote with the Libs.

The only way a confidence vote is going to pass to flip us into an election is if a whole bunch of liberals either vote in favour of a confidence motion, or a whole bunch of them just abstain or get sick at the same time (voting from home thing because Covid) that can’t even happen now.
 

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Jagmeet will vote Libs no matter what unless he knows for sure that the bloc will vote with the Libs.

The only way a confidence vote is going to pass to flip us into an election is if a whole bunch of liberals either vote in favour of a confidence motion, or a whole bunch of them just abstain or get sick at the same time (voting from home thing because Covid) that can’t even happen now.
I know, Singh is in the exact same place as Twat Waffle.
 

Ron in Regina

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I know, Singh is in the exact same place as Twat Waffle.
SURPRISE!!! (Not surprised)
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On Tuesday Bloc Leader Yves-François Blanchet said he will make good on his threat to work with opposition parties to topple the minority Liberals with a non-confidence vote.

The Conservatives and Bloc would also need support from the NDP to make that happen, but Singh says he's not going to "play their games."

Singh, who now still, like the last few years, holds the power to trigger the next election, says his party is ready for a campaign whenever the times comes???

But he reiterates that the NDP's vote will be decided on a case-by-case basis…& in every case, they will vote to support the liberals like the last few years…

Singh accuses the Bloc of helping the Conservatives, who he says would make cuts to services and programs that people need.

This report by The Canadian Press was first published Oct. 30, 2024.
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SURPRISE!!! (Not surprised)
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On Tuesday Bloc Leader Yves-François Blanchet said he will make good on his threat to work with opposition parties to topple the minority Liberals with a non-confidence vote.

The Conservatives and Bloc would also need support from the NDP to make that happen, but Singh says he's not going to "play their games."

Singh, who now still, like the last few years, holds the power to trigger the next election, says his party is ready for a campaign whenever the times comes???

But he reiterates that the NDP's vote will be decided on a case-by-case basis…& in every case, they will vote to support the liberals like the last few years…

Singh accuses the Bloc of helping the Conservatives, who he says would make cuts to services and programs that people need.

This report by The Canadian Press was first published Oct. 30, 2024.
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Some nutjob with a rifle has got to come along eventually. Thats not a good thing.
 

Ron in Regina

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Justin Trudeau is determined to lead his party into the next election. Perhaps more than 20 Liberal MPs want a change in party leadership to reflect the views of their constituents.

The solution is simple: If these Liberal MPs voted with the Conservatives and Bloc Québécois in a confidence motion, then both Mr. Trudeau and the dissident MPs could have their wishes fulfilled.

Even better, millions of Canadians would also have a say, but the ones who voted NDP would still have to wait for the Federal Election to have their say.
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