Non-Coalition Coalition that’s Definitely NOT a Coalition…

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The NDP, in particular, counted less than $300,000 in cash in its most recent audited financial statements. At the close of 2023, the party had cash assets of just $289,808.

This is the exact opposite of the Conservatives, who are sitting on more money than they could ever legally spend in a campaign. Their cash reserves at the end of 2023 stood at $16,197,685.

In a social media post this week, Abacus Data CEO David Coletto said the contrasting cash reserves of the major parties were a clue as to “the dynamics of (Canadian politics) today and the likelihood of an election.”

Writer Alex Zoltan also took note of the bare cupboards at the NDP in a widely circulated X.com thread. Zoltan attributed it back to the party funding a massive advertising blitz in the 2021 election that yielded virtually no gains (the NDP caucus grew by just one seat on election day). “It was a giant financial risk that failed to pay off and now we’re all paying for it,” he wrote.

In a full-scale federal election campaign, $289,808 would barely be enough to cover the travel expenses of NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh, much less afford the resources needed to coordinate 343 candidates across six time zones.

The party was so financially unprepared for the snap 2021 election that it had to take out a $20 million loan that it has only now come close to paying off. At the party’s national convention in February, party officials said they only had $2 million left outstanding on the 2021 loan.
 

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The NDP, in particular, counted less than $300,000 in cash in its most recent audited financial statements. At the close of 2023, the party had cash assets of just $289,808.

This is the exact opposite of the Conservatives, who are sitting on more money than they could ever legally spend in a campaign. Their cash reserves at the end of 2023 stood at $16,197,685.

In a social media post this week, Abacus Data CEO David Coletto said the contrasting cash reserves of the major parties were a clue as to “the dynamics of (Canadian politics) today and the likelihood of an election.”

Writer Alex Zoltan also took note of the bare cupboards at the NDP in a widely circulated X.com thread. Zoltan attributed it back to the party funding a massive advertising blitz in the 2021 election that yielded virtually no gains (the NDP caucus grew by just one seat on election day). “It was a giant financial risk that failed to pay off and now we’re all paying for it,” he wrote.

In a full-scale federal election campaign, $289,808 would barely be enough to cover the travel expenses of NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh, much less afford the resources needed to coordinate 343 candidates across six time zones.

The party was so financially unprepared for the snap 2021 election that it had to take out a $20 million loan that it has only now come close to paying off. At the party’s national convention in February, party officials said they only had $2 million left outstanding on the 2021 loan.
It shows who is better with money.
 
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A motion from the NDP/Liberals initially calling on Canada to recognize the "State of Palestine" passed amid widespread acrimony on Monday, after the Liberal/NDP’s drastically altered its wording to see the government simply work towards that aim as part of a two-state solution….so waffling to try & please both sides while pleasing neither, so optics at best.
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After appearing destined to fail when the governing Liberal/NDP’s vowed Monday to not let the opposition sway its foreign policy, Government House Leader Steven MacKinnon shocked MPs on both sides of the aisle when he rose in the final minutes of debate to advance a nearly 500-word motion that rephrased considerable portions of the NDP/Liberal motion.
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After generating considerable international attention and division among MPs during a nearly day-long debate, the non-binding but symbolic NDP/Liberal motion ultimately passed 204 to 117.
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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and almost all Liberal/NDP MPs voted in favour, alongside NDP/Liberals, Bloc Quebecois and all both Green MPs. Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre and his party voted against the proposal.
While nearly every element of the motion was altered, arguably the biggest change came in the final line…while Jagmeet Singh was ecstatic to just appear relevant. He’ll call it a win ‘cuz his name got mentioned not as the punchline of a joke he believed.
During a lengthy address laying out the left-of-centre party's stance (Which is ALL of Parliament except the Conservatives),…
View attachment 21479…hours before agreeing to accept the Liberal/NDP government's wording, NDP/Liberal foreign affairs critic Heather McPherson said the time had come to "recognize Palestine." (???)
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Insisting they did not intend to use this motion as a "gotcha" political tactic, she called the choice to not do more to aid starving children who "are not Hamas" political.

The above sounds so oddly familiar…

Talks had taken place between the Liberal/NDP’s and their non-coalition coalition that’s definitely not a coalition-type coalition supply-and-confidence deal NDP/Liberal partners behind the scenes leading up to the debate about the wording of the motion and potential amendments…so surprisingly not surprising.
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"Today's vote is a historic test for all MPs on perhaps (one of the) the most significant international issue(s) of the day. Many Canadian voters will keenly remember where their MP stood on this vote when it comes to future election campaigns,"
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Apparently, Canadian Parliament is meeting for an emergency session of whatever they decide they’re gonna do.

Iran has warned that after firing these 200, or 181, or pick your own number, ballistic missiles from Iran into Israel, that if Israel responds, that Iran is going to get aggressive for a change or something.
(Notice Harris speaking but not Biden above?)
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Anyway, so in response to the response:
 

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The NDP, in particular, counted less than $300,000 in cash in its most recent audited financial statements. At the close of 2023, the party had cash assets of just $289,808.

This is the exact opposite of the Conservatives, who are sitting on more money than they could ever legally spend in a campaign. Their cash reserves at the end of 2023 stood at $16,197,685.

In a social media post this week, Abacus Data CEO David Coletto said the contrasting cash reserves of the major parties were a clue as to “the dynamics of (Canadian politics) today and the likelihood of an election.”

Writer Alex Zoltan also took note of the bare cupboards at the NDP in a widely circulated X.com thread. Zoltan attributed it back to the party funding a massive advertising blitz in the 2021 election that yielded virtually no gains (the NDP caucus grew by just one seat on election day). “It was a giant financial risk that failed to pay off and now we’re all paying for it,” he wrote.

In a full-scale federal election campaign, $289,808 would barely be enough to cover the travel expenses of NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh, much less afford the resources needed to coordinate 343 candidates across six time zones.

The party was so financially unprepared for the snap 2021 election that it had to take out a $20 million loan that it has only now come close to paying off. At the party’s national convention in February, party officials said they only had $2 million left outstanding on the 2021 loan.
And these people want us to thrust them with the taxpayer's bank account?
 

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Anyway…what the Bloc was seeking, through their only opposition day opportunity for months, was for the government to "take the necessary steps to ensure that a royal recommendation is granted as soon as possible" to a private member's bill known as Bill C-319, which proposes a 10 per cent increase to Old Age Security (OAS) payouts for seniors ages 65 to 74.

The non-binding motion still passed by a vote of 181 to 143, with the support of the other opposition parties on Wednesday, BUT despite the majority backing, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau will not be compelled to issue the financial authorization needed for the bill to be passable….so…

The bill is one of two Blanchet has put the government on notice over. Under parliamentary rules, because Bill C-319 seeks to spend public funds, a royal recommendation must be provided or the legislation will be deemed out of order.

Blanchet's line in the sand was seeing significant progress on both Bill C-319, and Bill C-282 – seeking supply management protections in future trade talks— or he'd start negotiating with the Conservatives and NDP to bring down the government (or not…).
The Bloc could have made this week’s motion a matter of confidence, but opted not to, with the party's deputy House leader telling CTV's Question Period over the weekend that there would be "no point," while talks between the two parties were ongoing.
 
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Both the Bloc Québécois and the NDP gave ample warning that they would not be backing Conservative calls to trigger an election. Nevertheless, on both Sep. 25 and Oct. 1 the Tories have introduced motions to bring down the government — only for both to fail along party lines.

There are various political reasons for doing so.By repeatedly giving the NDP a material chance to trigger an election, they’re able to challenge the notion that the party is no longer propping up the Trudeau government.

It also makes Prime Minister Justin Trudeau appear weak. When Trudeau made his appearance on The Late Show last week, host Stephen Colbert noted “your rivals are calling a vote to possibly force you out of office.”

It has also been international news that Trudeau is facing official attempts to oust him from power. “PM Trudeau survives no-confidence vote, remains on thin ice,” read a headline published in France’s Le Monde just as their president, Emmanuel Macron, prepared to make a state visit to Canada.

But there might be another reason to continuously table non-confidence motions: There’s always the slight possibility that one of them could accidentally pass.
It’s been about a month since former Bank of Canada governor Mark Carney was appointed as an economic advisor to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. His appointment was always a little odd; rather than being employed by the Prime Minister’s Office as would be typical, he was instead hired by the Liberal Party of Canada – which the Conservatives have claimed is a ploy to insulate Carney from ethics disclosures.

Well, Carney’s official job title is as head of the “Leader’s Task Force on Economic Growth.” The National Post’s Ryan Tumilty looked into this task force, and determined that it doesn’t seem to exist. It has no known mandate, no scheduled events and no members other than Carney.
 
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Well, Carney’s official job title is as head of the “Leader’s Task Force on Economic Growth.” The National Post’s Ryan Tumilty looked into this task force, and determined that it doesn’t seem to exist. It has no known mandate, no scheduled events and no members other than Carney.
I know the mandate. Its a future pogey cheque.
 

Ron in Regina

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I know the mandate. Its a future pogey cheque.
Pierogi-Nation? NDP House Leader Peter Julian says the Bloc Québécois has not initiated conversations with his party to potentially bring down the minority Trudeau government, as Leader Yves-François Blanchet has threatened.
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"As House leaders, we're reaching out to all the parties every day, but I think there's a difference between what they might be saying publicly and what they're actually doing privately," Julian told CTV's Question Period host Vassy Kapelos, in an interview airing Sunday, when asked whether the Bloc has already started those talks.
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Following the vote on a non-binding Bloc motion this week, Blanchet said he would start those discussions with the other opposition parties "as rapidly as next week" if the Liberals don't capitulate to his ultimatum. The motion passed, but most Liberal MPs voted against it.
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Blanchet's line in the sand is seeing both Bills C-319 and C-282 — intended to boost Old Age Security (OAS) and protect supply management in future trade talks, respectively — become law by Oct. 29, or his party will start negotiating with the Conservatives and NDP to topple the government.
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But so far, Julian said, they haven't been approached by the Bloc.
(SDTC scandal anyone? Or is that last weeks Liberal scandal already?)
 
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Ron in Regina

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Why Steven Guilbeault? Why the Trudeau Minister of Climate Change (?) to come out with this statement against the Bloc Québécois & seniors pensions?

Why not, let’s say, have the Minister Of Finance come out with this statement? Maybe the Minister of National Revenue? President of the Treasury Board who’s also the Minister of Transport?

Why not, let’s say, have the Trudeau Government’s Minister of Labour & Seniors come out with this statement? Maybe even the Minister of Citizen’s Services? Nope!! Get the Climate Change Guy out there ‘cuz Climate Change & Seniors pensions are…?

Liberal cabinet minister Steven Guilbeault says the Liberals will not be "held hostage" by the Bloc Québécois' demand to expand Old Age Security (OAS) to more seniors, because Climate Change!!! Maybe it’s ‘cuz Guilbeault probably has a penis ‘cuz it’s 2015-ish?

Former Bloc Quebecois leader Gilles Duceppe speculated that Guilbeault's comments mean there will almost certainly be an election before Christmas…assuming of course that Jagmeet Singh who ripped up and tore up the non-coalition coalition that definitely was not a coalition-type coalition agreement…he said so, repeatedly…that he ripped/tore it up…
BUT…so far that has made zero difference & The NDP has continued to support the Liberal Party at every opportunity…so?

Duceppe also weighed in on the possibility of Trudeau proroguing Parliament, a decision that Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland and Gould have insisted is NOT on the table, but one that ultimately rests with the prime minister.

With the Liberals unwilling to acquiesce to the Bloc's demands, the NDP has leverage to push new priorities as the Trudeau government only needs support from either the Bloc or NDP to stay in power. But so far, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh says he has had no conversations with the prime minister.😳

"The ongoing discussions with the house leader, that is normal, but there's been no discussion between me and the prime minister," Singh told reporters on Thursday. "There's been nothing I've been putting on the table nor has the prime minister put on the table."

Then Jagmeet claimed that he “Ripped up the Table! Absolutely tore it up! Ripped and tore up that table! Destroyed that table in a ripping and tearing action that tore and ripped it up, both, repeatedly!!!”

On Thursday, the Senate passed the pharmacare bill that was central to the previous political pact between the Liberals and NDP. The legislation requires the federal government to sign deals with provinces and territories to cover diabetes and birth-control medications as part of the public health system.

With the bill now law, Singh is urging the federal government to negotiate deals with the provinces as soon as possible.

When asked whether the federal government's progress on those deals will dictate the NDP's future support, surprisingly Singh would not answer directly.